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Posted: 24-Oct-2008, 12:21 AM
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Yes; apparently considerably more than you do. If you spent more than five minutes Googling per diem, you'd see what I mean.

Really? So far you're not doing a good job of convincing me of this.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_diem
"Per diem is understood to include the additional expenses incurred living away from home - basically having two residences."
Which is what I said about maintaining an additional residence.

There are multiple definitions of the word "home." In a legal sense, a person can only have one home despite a person like Palin owning three houses. House and home are not interchangeable. The IRS' definition of "home" refers primarily to where they work, and if that cannot be determined then it refers to where they reside.
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/article/0,,i...=181015,00.html
"An employee’s "home" for purposes of section 162(a)(2) is (1) the regular or principal (if more than one regular) place of business, or (2) if the employee has no regular or principal place of business, then at the regular place of abode "in a real and substantial sense." If an employee fails to come within either category, the employee is considered to be an itinerant whose "home" is wherever the employee happens to work. "

In your very first post, you state that she owns a house 40 miles from a satellite office in Anchorage. That's actually what started all of this. The key phrases here are "a house" and "satellite office."
Is that house, in the legal sense, her home? Is the that house the address listed on her Driver's License? Is it located in the county where she's registered to vote? Is it the address she uses on her tax returns?
Is the satellite location her principal place of employment? The word "satellite" seems to imply otherwise.

However, you're probably not going to read this either. Instead I expect you'll respond to something I did not state.
You've been doing an excellent job of providing answers- unfortunately, they're not answers to the questions that were asked.
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Posted: 24-Oct-2008, 01:32 AM
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Per diem varies depending on the governmental entity. No one definition could cover it all. IRS as "reporting" requirements but the requirements for being paid per diem are different from state to state and do not follow IRS requirements.. In my state you had to be 50 miles from home and you could not stay in a residence wich you "owned". You could stay with family or friends at no charge and still be paid the basic rate though. In meetings that included representatives from other states,including East coast states at times, we privately discussed the matter and found a wide variance in rules and requirements. Mostly anything less than 50 or 60 miles was considered a commute. In my state 35 miles from your home got you "a" per diem meal and I got a lot of those.

I would assume the distance might be further in the West where 50 to 60 miles is just a trip to the grocery store or doctor.

Alaska would have its own rules and I am not really interested. If she broke the law, they may or may not investigate her. That is their business. In the US a VP has no immunity from prosecution. Sometimes what appears to be a stroke of good fortune turns out to be a curse because of the public scrutiny.

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Posted: 25-Oct-2008, 06:55 PM
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This girl is a loose cannon, as I've said before. It seems very clear that she is having a hard time drawing a line between herself as VP hopeful and President fait accompli. Very mushy boundaries. They are having a hell of a time handling her -- she is out of the bottle and McCain has no choice but to support her, if he doesn't want to look like the worst kind of misjudging fool to have chosen her.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081025/..._politico/14929
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Posted: 25-Oct-2008, 09:01 PM
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I have said that from the beginning but it certainly isn't a popular idea among my Republican friends.

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Posted: 25-Oct-2008, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (Patch @ 25-Oct-2008, 10:01 PM)
I have said that from the beginning but it certainly isn't a popular idea among my Republican friends.

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Well -- does one really have to defend every move the party makes, out of party loyalty? The girl is out of control, if she was ever actually in control in the first place, and she is a terrible liability to McCain, just as nominating her was a terrible mistake on his part.
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Posted: 26-Oct-2008, 06:49 AM
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This election seems to have really polarized both the R's and D's. Most R's defend Palin fiercely. All the literature from McCain and the RNC portrays the Democrats as viciously attacking her. In reality, I haven't seen that in Democrat mailings.

Everyone running has a voting record but Palin so she can claim to be anything they want her to be.

I do not like her and would definitely not like to see her become president.

We will soon know though.

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Posted: 26-Oct-2008, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE (Patch @ 24-Oct-2008, 03:32 AM)
In the US a VP has no immunity from prosecution. Sometimes what appears to be a stroke of good fortune turns out to be a curse because of the public scrutiny.

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Palin is beginning to remind me less of Dan Quayle and more of Spiro Agnew. Then again, I guess we're just nattering nabobs of negativety.


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QUOTE (Patch @ 24-Oct-2008, 03:32 AM)
In the US a VP has no immunity from prosecution.  Sometimes what appears to be a stroke of good fortune turns out to be a curse because of the public scrutiny.

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Palin is beginning to remind me less of Dan Quayle and more of Spiro Agnew. Then again, I guess we're just nattering nabobs of negativety.

It does seem that history repeats it's self.

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Posted: 26-Oct-2008, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 25-Oct-2008, 10:32 PM)
Well -- does one really have to defend every move the party makes, out of party loyalty?  The girl is out of control, if she was ever actually in control in the first place, and she is a terrible liability to McCain, just as nominating her was a terrible mistake on his part.

And that's the downside of taking in a so called "maverick" - god I'm tired of that word! Just as advertising change ala Obama is no guarantee that such change will be positive, having a maverick is no guarantee that such rogue independence won't go it alone and throw a monkey wrench in the whole endeavor. You may be right Stoirmeil, instead of an asset she's become someone the McCampaign has to rope and bridle and that's not what they need. As I said before, I think she lacks the humility to know how little she knows - but even if she did she'd have to keep the wind in her sails and fake it, and I think that's what she's been doing. But the polls are still fairly close I think, and they're not infallible, so the McCampaign has not been benched yet - but its 4th down with yardage to go - better make that field goal or its curtains in McCainland.


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Posted: 27-Oct-2008, 05:19 AM
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Asheville, N.C. — Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin brought some casual appeal to Asheville on Sunday night, wearing jeans and singing "Redneck Woman" as she implored voters to hire the ticket to fix the nation's capital.

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Posted: 27-Oct-2008, 06:00 AM
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I'm sure many here haven't seen the snippets from this weekend. The Drudge Report had the story and Fox news is on it this morning.

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WFTV-Channel 9's Barbara West conducted a satellite interview with Sen. Joe Biden on Thursday. A friend says it's some of the best entertainment he's seen recently. What do you think?

West wondered about Sen. Barack Obama's comment, to Joe the Plumber, about spreading the wealth. She quoted Karl Marx and asked how Obama isn't being a Marxist with the "spreading the wealth" comment.

"Are you joking?" said Biden, who is Obama's running mate. "No," West said.

West later asked Biden about his comments that Obama could be tested early on as president. She wondered if the Delaware senator was saying America's days as the world's leading power were over.

"I don't know who's writing your questions," Biden shot back.

Biden so disliked West's line of questioning that the Obama campaign canceled a WFTV interview with Jill Biden, the candidate's wife.

"This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign.

McGinnis said the Biden cancellation was "a result of her husband's experience yesterday during the satellite interview with Barbara West."
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/10/obama-campaign.html

Here we have the Democrat VP candidate faced with tough questions of which the answers should be of grave concern to American voters. However, the sheeple would rather concentrate on Palin going "rogue" rather than how an Obama administration could have serious and long-lasting negative impacts on our nation's sovereignty. Palin isn't towing the party line..sure enough. I say that's a good thing. We should be electing people based on their ability to talk the talk.

Does anyone here give consideration to what Obama wants to do? His ideas for further punishing success will squash the middle class. Or do people truly think that the government will take care of the needs of its people? Perhaps it will...just in the way a prison takes care of the needs of its prisoners. Capitalism has created an amazingly wealthy nation. Greedy politicians have damaged it. But electing a blatant socialist is not the way to fix it. As others have mentioned, the next president will appoint 2-3 new supreme court justices. You can believe Obama will appoint those who will advance his socialist agenda.

And one more point. Some want to say that Palin isn't being attacked. I submit that the media, who is overtly pro-Obama, has attacked her relentlessly. And what's with the questions regarding her wardrobe, or who will watch her children when she's on the job? Those are both blatantly sexist. What male politician has ever been question about their ability to be a politician and a dad, or the price of their wardrobe? I find it appalling, although not entirely counter-productive as there are plenty of women who will not vote for Palin out of pure jealousy. But the real fear on the part of the Democrats is not how cute Palin is, or how well she may wear a dress...it's that they know she will out them all. She calls a spade a spade and deals with the consequences of her remarks later. The important thing to me is that she doesn't pull punches to buffer her Washington peers from scrutiny. I think she would make a fantastic president after a term as VP.


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QUOTE (TheCarolinaScotsman @ 27-Oct-2008, 07:19 AM)
Not all us rednecks like bein' patronized.


From WRAL
Asheville, N.C. — Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin brought some casual appeal to Asheville on Sunday night, wearing jeans and singing "Redneck Woman" as she implored voters to hire the ticket to fix the nation's capital.

Those watching the news and receiving material from both main parties (it is easy to accomplish) have seen many Sarah Palin's. All candidates are made over for the race. The longer the voting record, the more needs to be pushed to the back of the stove. The Palin with the midwestern accent seems to be the most prevalent. The accent may be for real.

What you see is not what you will get. That you can take to the bank!!

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Posted: 29-Oct-2008, 07:38 AM
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QUOTE (Patch @ 28-Oct-2008, 03:34 PM)
QUOTE (TheCarolinaScotsman @ 27-Oct-2008, 07:19 AM)
Not all us rednecks like bein' patronized.


From WRAL
Asheville, N.C. — Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin brought some casual appeal to Asheville on Sunday night, wearing jeans and singing "Redneck Woman" as she implored voters to hire the ticket to fix the nation's capital.

Those watching the news and receiving material from both main parties (it is easy to accomplish) have seen many Sarah Palin's. All candidates are made over for the race. The longer the voting record, the more needs to be pushed to the back of the stove. The Palin with the midwestern accent seems to be the most prevalent. The accent may be for real.

What you see is not what you will get. That you can take to the bank!!

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I'd say you're right. Now, which Hillary was this?

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Posted: 29-Oct-2008, 08:11 AM
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laugh.gif From what I understand there is a new class of women out there. They are called "Walmart Women". I believe they are classified as having a high school diploma and making under $62,000 a year. I am in this category. The only thing I see wrong in shopping at Walmart is fighting the crowds!

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QUOTE (flora @ 29-Oct-2008, 09:11 AM)
laugh.gif From what I understand there is a new class of women out there. They are called "Walmart Women". I believe they are classified as having a high school diploma and making under $62,000 a year. I am in this category. The only thing I see wrong in shopping at Walmart is fighting the crowds!

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That would include me also.
No crowds early in the mornings. I leave Spearman at 7:30 am and get to Borger at 8:15 am. I'm on my way out when it starts getting crowded.

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