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Now that you are a bit more informed about the people behind Cindy Sheehan, are yo ucomfortable being politically associated with her?
I agree wholeheartedly with their sentiments and motives. [ 1 ]  [14.29%]
I really had no idea and don't like it. [ 3 ]  [42.86%]
I don't like these people but I agree with their voice. [ 3 ]  [42.86%]
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Posted on 20-Nov-2005, 06:32 PM
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Shamrock, thank you ever so much for that explanation! Now I don't feel as lost in this converstion!

I couldn't agree with you more, sniper. I also had made a few replies that were lost. If I had more space on my computer I would probably do the same. I just can't save that many posts!!


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Posted on 23-Nov-2005, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE (Sonee @ 15-Nov-2005, 04:24 AM)
......... there are those who believe that there is absolutely no reason for our military to be involved anywhere outside our borders.

I agree with your observation and feel, perhaps inaccurately, that some of our more passionate members more closely have the sentiment you express here than actually reflecting the mindset of the anti-American rhetoric of the Stalinists and anarchists. At the very least, it would be my hope.

QUOTE (Sonee @ 15-Nov-2005, 04:24 AM)
Now, I may be one of the ignorant masses but, I'm still not quite clear on the whole 'straw man' reference. I assume it has a cultural base, but that alludes me at present. Could someone please enlighten me as to where this reference came from and it's meaning to the post? I know that this is off topic but I'd really like to be up to speed on all the info being presented here!

SCShamrock did an exceptional job of explaining what a "strawman" argument is. As to the application here, the strawman was speculating another member's position when that member chooses to not clarify it for us.

QUOTE (Sonee @ 15-Nov-2005, 04:24 AM)
Sniper, for further clarification, are you saying that all anti-war protesters/groups are also anti-American, or only that the groups supporting Sheehan are anti-american?

In particular, I have presented the groups and individuals behind the current anti-war movement. In summary, these groups and individuals are clearly anti-American. Many are devout communists, Stalinists, anarchists, anti-Semitic/pro-Palestinian, et.al., and have a clearly identifiable history that supports this observation.

My challenge, mentioned earlier, is for anyone that is "anti-war" to provide a "pro-American" position while attacking the administration's resolve to defeat the enemy on a foreign land rather than in the streets of America. It is my observation that the current tidal wave of anti-Bush propaganda is pure politically driven mantra designed to motivate the DemocRATic base and undermine our resolve to destroy militant Islam.

From my perspective, doing anything that encourages, supports, or aids the enemy to defeat of the United States is anti-American.

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