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HazelM 
Posted: 04-Jun-2005, 11:52 AM
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I still cannot find the Beginner's page; so, shall take advantage of everyone's good nature here.

In these two sentences, the tense is the same in both clauses.

Rydw i'n gwybod eich bod chi'n edrych. I know that you are looking.
Roeddwn i'n meddwl ei bod hi'n oer neithiwr. I thought that it was cold last night.

Now, please, how do you write a sentence where the two clauses are different tenses?

E.g. I know that you went to Spain last year.

Thank you. Hazel
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Antwn 
Posted: 04-Jun-2005, 07:41 PM
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I believe there are several ways to say this Hazel.

Rydw i'n gwybod fod ti wedi mynd i Sbaen y llynedd - using a wedi tense

Rydw i'n gwybod iti fynd i Sbaen y llynedd - in the past tense using "that" you can use iti, iddi, iddo, iddyn etc.- this is often used in mixed tenses like this

Gwn i fod ti wedi mynd i Sbaen y llynedd - using a conjugate of gwybod.

Gwn i fod est ti i Sbaen y llynedd - I guess this would work too

Here's the link to Beginner's Welsh -


http://www.celticradio.net/php/forums/inde...?showtopic=6861


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Siarls 
Posted: 17-Jun-2005, 03:30 PM
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I'm afraid that latter does not work, Antwn. (Gwn i fod est ti i Sbaen). "Bod" cannot be followed by a conjugated verb, only by the verbnoun.

The best way for you to translate your example, Hazel is by saying:

Gwn dy fod wedi mynd i Sbaen llynedd
Rwy'n gwybod dy fod wedi mynd i Sbaen llynedd

Often, you will just have to accept that subordinate clauses generally do not have a tense and that you will realise whether it is the past or present by the tense of the main clause and the context.




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