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> Religious Vs. Spirituality, what is the difference?
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DesertRose 
Posted: 19-Jan-2005, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE (maryellen @ 18-Jan-2005, 06:34 PM)
"Once again, this is the Christian point of view so as to not offend others. "


Why must we apologize for having a Christain view in a Christian forum (Kirk and Chapel)??!

I find this very disturbing. (I am not blaming you CelticRose at all. I think it has more to do with the audience.)

Well I didn't feel like I was apologizing. I was just stating that this was from a Christian point of view because this topic started in the Kirk and Chapel and ended up here. So since others were expressing their points of view, I was stating mine and saying it was from a Christian perspective because I mostly wanted to answer JPMoore directly to whom is a Christian, if I am not mistaken and doing so without offending others.

I do not like to push my beliefs on anyone, but at the same time I confess as a Christian I find myself feeling like I always have to be careful when I do express my opinion as non-Christians always seem to think I am trying to push my beliefs on them when I think we are just having a conversation. I am open to hearing everyone's point of view, but in my experiences, no one seems to care if the Christian gets offended or not. sad.gif


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I believe there is no difference in Religious Vs. Spirituality, that is exactly what Religion is! I mean, what else is religion if it is not a spiritual thing?


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QUOTE (dragonboy3611 @ 20-Jan-2005, 08:34 PM)
I believe there is no difference in Religious Vs. Spirituality, that is exactly what Religion is! I mean, what else is religion if it is not a spiritual thing?

From what I am thinking and reading here, I would say yes...and no.

I see religion (having it or being it) as more of an outward action. Religion is going to church, mosque or synagogue, etc. Religion is action. But that action may not have sincere motives. Religion can be good, but many times it is used for bad.

Spirituality is internal: in the heart, in the the soul.

I ramble.. forgive me...
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Well than I have to put in my other opinion. You can be an avid christian in my eyes, without ever attending church. Church is just a material thing, god, is no were near material. To believe in god, you just need the spiritual aspect of your religion. So in turn, I believe that's the only thing religion is. Attending mass, helping others, true, the religious part of it, but not really truley needed to be devoted to god.
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I am glad we can agree to disagree here, without worrying about offending our friends. Religion and Spirituality are intensly personal for most people. There is room for ALL belief systems.
If anybody has a real NEED to be offended though, they can go to the politics forum for their fix of abuse. laugh.gif


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Religion is the Hymn. Spirituality is the passion with which you sing it. wink.gif

I am a very spiritual person, and am somewhat religious. I have my faith. Faith is where Spiritualiy really lies. Religion is simply the doctrine that people attach to their faith. And for some, religion is simply what was taught to them, and have no spirituality at all.

Feeling the bread on your tongue is religion (comunion). Standing in the heart of the forest and feeling you're not alone is Spirituality.


I'm not sure how much of that made sense to anyone else.


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QUOTE (dragonboy3611 @ 20-Jan-2005, 08:34 PM)
I believe there is no difference in Religious Vs. Spirituality, that is exactly what Religion is! I mean, what else is religion if it is not a spiritual thing?



You can be an avid christian in my eyes, without ever attending church. Church is just a material thing, god, is no were near material. To believe in god, you just need the spiritual aspect of your religion. So in turn, I believe that's the only thing religion is. Attending mass, helping others, true, the religious part of it, but not really truley needed to be devoted to god.

There is absolutely a big difference. Religion is the outward following of established practices and traditions. Spirituality is the inward relationship with the higher being of your choice.

Just because a person goes to church does not make them a Christian anymore than sitting in my garage makes you a car.

You said as much in your follow up message: Religion = attending church = a material thing. Spirituality = devotion to God = a mental thing. THAT is the difference.



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Just because a person goes to church does not make them a Christian anymore than sitting in my garage makes you a car.

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QUOTE (oldraven @ 09-Feb-2005, 01:08 PM)
Religion is the Hymn. Spirituality is the passion with which you sing it. wink.gif... Faith is where Spiritualiy really lies. Religion is simply the doctrine that people attach to their faith. And for some, religion is simply what was taught to them, and have no spirituality at all. Feeling the bread on your tongue is religion (comunion). Standing in the heart of the forest and feeling you're not alone is Spirituality.

I'm not sure how much of that made sense to anyone else.

Makes sense to me!

Spirituality is so deep, so personal, its different with everyone - I believe each of us has a unique connection/relationship to the creator God. We express ourselves to Him differently, and we have different needs - but there are central core truths as to Gods identity that apply to all of us and are the key to a closer relationship with God.

I think of denominations as a style of worship rather than the thing in which God can be found.

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I have to agree with most everyone, especially on the differences between the two. One thing though.... without the religion aspect of sprirtuality most people won't grow any closer to God( or Creator). If I could meet one person that does not go to church and still reads the Bible , and prays , then I promise I will never mention this again.




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I quickly must edit my post as I meant to say. "reads the bible and learns what God intended for us" and also "prays and means it"

I apologize for the miss print
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Hello there Celtic Cat! Guess what! You've just met one!

My church is having serious problems due to a serious split in the congregation. My wife and I disagree with some things that are happening in our church. We have decided not to go back until the smoke settles. That has been over a year ago. I still read my Bible everyday, as soon as I get out of bed in the morning and before going to sleep each night. I pray daily as well, along with my daily Bible readings and off and on throughout the day. I love God with all of my heart and would never let the problems we are ahving with our church keepme from continuing with my daily devotionals.

I am not saying that people should do without church as a matter of course. We would not be doing without now if given a choice, but we don't want to go to anohter - that is our home church and family after all - but we are not comfortable in ours just now with the way things are. I feel that church is a vital part of the Christian experience, but it is possible to survive without it if necessary, jsut much more difficult.

Remember there are Christians throughout the world who live in places where Christianity is forbidden and have no choice to practice their religion without a church. It IS dificult but it can and in some situations MUST be done.

Just my two cents worth...

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To quote something I heard recently:

"...religions divide people, spirituality brings them back together..."


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QUOTE (Shadows @ 29-Mar-2005, 10:16 PM)
To quote something I heard recently:

"...religions divide people, spirituality brings them back together..."

Interesting quote...and a very true one indeed.
Thanks Shadows.
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