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Posted: 03-Aug-2004, 10:57 AM
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My mother's family is Fisher. And while we're still not sure whether it's Scottish or French (they may have dropped the "c" at Ellis Island), I'm pretty sure it's Scottish.

The only genealogy I've been able to do on this side of the family is to learn that the Fishers were part of the Campbell clan. I have not been able to find any information here about the Campbells. Does anyone have any resources they can point me toward?


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Posted: 02-Oct-2004, 07:19 PM
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Maideann mhath,

Just to spice up your search about Campbells, The clan Cambell are known for accepting the hospitality of the McDonalds for 2 weeks and then repaying the favour by turning around and slaughtering all McDonalds in sight. There are songs about it.
There are campbells in different regions of scotland.

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Posted: 02-Oct-2004, 07:45 PM
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If you can, get a look at the website at Ellis Island and see if you can find your family's listing. It *should* (no guarantees) list from what country your family emigrated. That'll narrow down whether or not your family was Scots. It's also possible that if the surname was originally Fischer, that it was German.


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Heres the clan's north american website.
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we have roots in clan campbell and have done some of the line works you should also check out the canada clan campbell federation publication.the duke of argyll is the chief, the honourary cheif executive is alastair campbell of airds,there are 87 different septs that are under the clan.there is also a north american society as well. ccs(na)website is www.ccsna.org


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Erik,

Have you found the information you were seeking?

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PS, The MacDonald/Campbell is much more complicated than that response you received.
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QUOTE (QueenofArgyll @ 09-Apr-2006, 09:17 PM)
PS, The MacDonald/Campbell is much more complicated than that response you received.

As I understand it, Clan Donald and Clan Campbell differed primarily in the degree of loyalty extended to the King of Scotland. For all practical purposes, the Clan Donald High Chief, while styled the "Lord of the Isles," essentially acted as a king in the territory controlled by Clan Donald, which included parts of Ireland, Scotland, and the Western Isles. Accordingly, Clan Donald tended to operate relatively independently of more centralized authority.
On the other hand, Clan Campbell tended to support the central government, whether Edinburgh or London.
As to the Glencoe Massacre, while carried out by Campbells, it was ordered by London.
The Clan Donald/Clan Campbell "rivalry" is greatly over-stated. In my own lineage, I have direct ancestors in both clans, and suspect there are many others who can say the same.


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deckers;

You have taken on a large task in looking into Clan Campbell. If it helps there are four main branches Argyll. Breadalbane, Cawdor, and Loudon. There are also two schools of though into the origin of the name .Some argue that the name is Norman fron de Campo Bello and others say its Gaelic from the Cam Buel ( Crooked Mouth). There is also argument as to whether they are a Sept of the MacArthurs or direct decendents of the Diarmids. What ever the arguement they rose to prominence under James the 1st after the downfall of the MacArthursand are now the largest and most prominent of all the clans.


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You may read that the Campbells are a sept of the clan MacArthur...or that it's the other way around...But I think it's safe to say that the MacArthurs came first as they're one of the oldest known clans in Scotland. As the MacArthur's fortunes wained the Campbells took over (the Medieval period I think).


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The Campbell and the Macarthurs were both staunch supporters of The Bruce and fought at Bannockburn. The rise of the Campbell to dominance occured in 1428 when James the First returned from captivity in England and summoned Parliament to meet in Inverness. During this Parliament James had cause to arrest Ian MacArthur ( of whom it was said could command 1000 men on the field) and have him executed. By this act the MacArthur were broken and all lands an titles were given to the Campbells. If you wish there is a reprint of an article written by Lady Mary MacGrigor enttiled " The MacArthurs of Tirevadich (Cladich)" on the Clan Arthur web site.

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Balachasen;

The massacre of the MacDonalds at Glenco was merely the last and most infamous of a series of massacre both sides committed over more than a century of fueding.

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Balachasen: There is nothing older

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QUOTE (Camac @ 09-Feb-2008, 02:38 PM)
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The Campbell and the Macarthurs were both staunch supporters of The Bruce and fought at Bannockburn. The rise of the Campbell to dominance occured in 1428 when James the First returned from captivity in England and summoned Parliament to meet in Inverness. During this Parliament James had cause to arrest Ian MacArthur ( of whom it was said could command 1000 men on the field) and have him executed. By this act the MacArthur were broken and all lands an titles were given to the Campbells. If you wish there is a reprint of an article written by Lady Mary MacGrigor enttiled " The MacArthurs of Tirevadich (Cladich)" on the Clan Arthur web site.

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Thanks for the back up...I think we, the MacArthurs, got Argyle from the Bruce.
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OASHOTREEO;

The Macarthur were in Argyll long before The Bruce. The MacArthurs are said to be the oldest of all the clans and claim descent from King Arthur as thesaying in Argyllshire goes; There is nothing older than the hills
, Macarthur and the Devil.

"Cruic! is Uillt 'is Ailpainich, Ach cuin A Thainig Arthairich"

THE HILLS AND STREAMS AND MACALPINE. BUT WHENCE CAME FORTH MACARTHUR.
If as is claimed the Macarthur descent from Arthur then they go back to the 6th Century A.C.E. The Bruce Family (de Brus) is of Norman origins.

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QUOTE (Camac @ 09-Feb-2008, 03:35 PM)
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OASHOTREEO;

The Macarthur were in Argyll long before The Bruce. The MacArthurs are said to be the oldest of all the clans and claim descent from King Arthur as thesaying in Argyllshire goes; There is nothing older than the hills
, Macarthur and the Devil.

"Cruic! is Uillt 'is Ailpainich, Ach cuin A Thainig Arthairich"

THE HILLS AND STREAMS AND MACALPINE. BUT WHENCE CAME FORTH MACARTHUR.
If as is claimed the Macarthur descent from Arthur then they go back to the 6th Century A.C.E. The Bruce Family (de Brus) is of Norman origins.

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I ment were given Argyle and Skye as rewards for our loyalty.
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After Bannockburn, the Bruce rewarded the MacArthurs with the lands of the MacDougalls. This merely added to the Land they already held on the south shore of Loch Awe. The Campbells were rewarded with the marriage of one of The Bruce's daughter can't remember which,I'll have to look it up.There is an excellent book on the Campbell written by Alastair Campbell of Airds, the official historian for the Campbell Clan. It is in 2 vol. and rather exspensive.

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