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Posted: 08-Aug-2004, 07:19 PM
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This story is one of my favorite creation stories ( follow the link below ) , you see the creator seemed to think through what he was doing and created over time:

http://www.walksinshadows.com/spots.htm


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I support the separation of church and hate!

IMAGINATION - the freest and largest nation in the world!


One can not profess to be of "GOD" and show intolerence and prejudice towards the beliefs of others.

Am fear nach gleidh na h–airm san t–sith, cha bhi iad aige ’n am a’ chogaidh.
He that keeps not his arms in time of peace will have none in time of war.

"We're all in this together , in the parking lot between faith and fear" ... O.C.M.S.

“Beasts feed; man eats; only the man of intellect knows how to eat well.”

"Without food we are nothing, without history we are lost." - SHADOWS


Is iomadh duine laghach a mhill an Creideamh.
Religion has spoiled many a good man.

The clan MacEwen
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QUOTE (greenldydragon @ 12-Jul-2004, 08:03 AM)
Tantunka????? What???

O'siyo (hello/welcome),
Tantunka is what some Native American tribes used/called the Bison/Buffalo smile.gif
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I always knew one day I would travel this road;I just did not know that today would be the day....

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O'siyo,
I so enjoy sharing my culture with anyone who wishes to take the time to read my posts here in this forum and, who wishes to take the time to learn of various cultures that have made up this wonderful place called Mother Earth~~ smile.gif Afterall, Mitayuke Oyasani' (we are all related)~~ biggrin.gif
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Oh Great Spirit...

Whose voice I hear in the winds,

Whose breath gives life to the world, hear me...

I am small and weak. I need your strength and wisdom.

May I walk in beauty.

Make my eyes behold the red and purple sunset.

Make my hands respect the things you have made

and my ears sharp to hear your voice.

Make me wise so that I may know

the things you have taught your children,

the lessons you have written in every leaf and rock.

Make me strong, not to be superior to my brothers,

but to fight my greatest enemy--myself.

-- Chief Yellow Lark, Lakota


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QUOTE (Shadows @ 15-Aug-2004, 12:45 PM)
QUOTE (freekenny @ 15-Aug-2004, 12:37 PM)
O'siyo (hello/welcome),
Tantunka is what some Native American tribes used/called the Bison/Buffalo smile.gif
Sty-U (stay strong)
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"Wakan Tanka"

O'siyo Shadow,
Indeed another term used for the Bison/Buffalo ~~ smile.gif
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wanishi for your input here freekenny... Native culture is one of my passions!

The dilect I follow is "Lenne Lanape" - Delaware, I study Eastern Woodland tribes.
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O'siyo,
Here is a chant and prayer that some of you may enjoy~~ biggrin.gif Have a blessed and peaceful day~~
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Grandfather:
A voice I am going to send!
Hear me,
All over the Universe:
A voice I am going to send!
Hear me,

Grandfather:
I will live!
Now I have said it.
-- Lakota tribe



The first man holds it in his hands
He holds the sun in his hands
In the center of the sky, he holds it in his hands
As he holds it in his hands, it starts upward.
The first woman holds it in her hands
She holds the moon in her hands
In the center of the sky, she holds it in her hands
As she holds it in her hands, it starts upward.
-- Navajo chant



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O'siyo,
Forgive me for I am addicted in sharing my culture with others ~smile~ If my posts are too many please let me know and I will cease posting ~smile~
May all of you be blessed with all that Mother Earth has to offer on this day and all those to follow..Be safe, be kind and be happy~~
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May the Great Spirit send his choicest gifts to you,
May the Sun Father and the Moon Mother shed their softest beams on you,
May the Four Winds of the World blow gently upon you and
Upon those with whom you share your heart and home.
-- Coahuila blessing



My words are tied in one with the great mountains,
with the great rocks, with the great trees.
In one with my body and my heart.
-- Yokuts prayer



Look, I see the Sun...
He is my father
He is my beginning.
Look, I see the Moon...
She is my Grandmother, my guardian keeper.
Look, I see the stars...
They are my friends, my relatives.
Look, I see the universe...
I see myself.
-- High Eagle, Osage/Cherokee



The mountains, I become part of it...
The herbs, the fir tree, I become part of it.
The morning mists, the clouds, the gathering waters,
I become part of it.
The wilderness, the dew drops, the pollen...
I become part of it.
-- Navajo chant



The wise man who meditates on the goodness of all that exists in the sky, in the earth,
in the lakes, and in the sea becomes whole.
-- Mayan saying


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Origin of Fire

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Long, long ago, animals and trees talked with each other, but there was no fire at that time.

Fox was most clever and he tried to think of a way to create fire for the world. One day, he decided to visit the Geese, te-tl, whose cry he wished to learn how to imitate. They promised to teach him if he would fly with them. So they contrived a way to attach wings to Fox, but cautioned him never to open his eyes while flying.

Whenever the Geese arose in flight, Fox also flew along with them to practice their cry. On one such adventure, darkness descended suddenly as they flew over the village of the fireflies, ko-na- tcic-a. In midflight, the glare from the flickering fireflies caused Fox to forget and he opened his eyes--instantly his wings collapsed! His fall was uncontrollable. He landed within the walled area of the firefly village, where a fire constantly burned in the centre.

Two kind fireflies came to see fallen Fox, who gave each one a necklace of juniper berries, katl-te-i-tse.

Fox hoped to persuade the two fireflies to tell him where he could find a way over the wall to the outside. They led him to a cedar tree, which they explained would bend down upon command and catapult him over the wall if he so desired.

That evening, Fox found the spring where fireflies obtained their water. There also, he discovered coloured earth, which when mixed with water made paint. He decided to give himself a coat of white. Upon returning to the village, Fox suggested to the fireflies, "Let's have a festival where we can dance and I will produce the music."

They all agreed that would be fun and helped to gather wood to build up a greater fire. Secretly, Fox tied a piece of cedar bark to his tail. Then he made a drum, probably the first one ever constructed, and beat it vigorously with a stick for the dancing fireflies. Gradually, he moved closer and closer to the fire.

Fox pretended to tire from beating the drum. He gave it to some fireflies who wanted to help make the music. Fox quickly thrust his tail into the fire, lighting the bark, and exclaimed, "It is too warm here for me, I must find a cooler place."

Straight to the cedar tree Fox ran, calling, "Bend down to me, my cedar tree, bend down!"

Down bent the cedar tree for Fox to catch hold, then up it carried him far over the wall. On and on he ran, with the fireflies in pursuit.

As Fox ran along, brush and wood on either side of his path were ignited from the sparks dropping from the burning bark tied to his tail.

Fox finally tired and gave the burning bark to Hawk, i-tsarl-tsu- i, who carried it to brown Crane, tsi-nes-tso-l. He flew far southward, scattering fire sparks everywhere. This is how fire first spread over the earth.

Fireflies continued chasing Fox all the way to his burrow and declared, "Forever after, Wily Fox, your punishment for stealing our fire will be that you can never make use of it for yourself."

For the Apache nation, this too was the beginning of fire for them. Soon they learned to use it for cooking their food and to keep themselves warm in cold weather.



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Another!

Origin of the Animals

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When Apaches emerged from the underworld, they travelled southward for four days. They had no other food than two kinds of seeds, which they ground between two stones.

Near where they camped on the fourth night, one tepee stood apart from the others. While the owner and his wife were absent for a short time, a Raven brought a quiver of arrows and a bow, hanging them on the lodge pole. When the children came out of the lodge, they took down the quiver and found some meat inside. They ate it and instantly became very fat.

Upon her return, the mother noticed grease on the hands and faces of her children, who told her what had happened. The woman hurried to tell her husband the tale. All the tribe marvelled at the wonderful food that made the children so fat. How they hoped the Raven might soon return with more of his good food.

When Raven discovered that his meat had been stolen, he flew eastward to his mountain home beyond the normal range of man. A bat followed Raven and later informed the Apaches where Raven lived. That night the Apache Chief called a council meeting. They decided to send a delegation to try and obtain some of Raven's special kind of meat.

In four days the Apache delegation reached the camp of the ravens, but could not obtain the information they desired. They discovered, however, a great circle of ashes where the ravens ate their meals. The Apaches decided to spy upon the ravens. That night the Medicine Man changed an Apache boy into a puppy to spy from a nearby bush. The main delegation broke camp and started homeward, leaving behind the puppy.

Next morning the ravens examined the abandoned camp of the Apaches. One of the young ravens found the puppy and was so pleased, he asked for permission to keep it under his blanket. Toward sunset, the puppy peaked out and saw an old raven brush aside some ashes from the fireplace. He then removed a large flat stone. Beneath was an opening through which the old raven disappeared. But when he returned he led a buffalo, which was then killed and eaten by all the ravens.

For four days the puppy spied upon the ravens, and each evening a buffalo was brought up from the depths and devoured. Now that he was certain where the ravens obtained their good food, the puppy resumed his normal shape.

Early on the fifth morning, with a white feather in one hand and a black one in the other, he descended through the opening beneath the fireplace.

In the underworld, he saw four buffaloes and placed the white feather in the mouth of the nearest one. He commanded it to follow him. But the first buffalo told him to take the feather to the last buffalo. This he did, but the fourth buffalo sent him again to the first one, into whose mouth the boy thrust the white feather.

"You are now the King of the Animals," declared the boy.

Upon returning to the above-world, the boy was followed by all the animals present upon the earth at that time. As the large herd passed through the opening, one of the ravens awoke, hurrying to close the lid. Upon seeing that all the animals willingly followed the Apache boy, the raven exclaimed, "When you kill any of the animals, remember to save the eyes for me."

For four days the boy followed the tracks of the Apaches and overtook them with his giant herd of animals. Soon they all returned to the camp of the Apaches, where the Chief slew the first buffalo for a feast that followed. The boy remembered and saved the eyes for the ravens.

One old grandmother who lived in a brush lodge was annoyed with one of the deer that ate some of her lodge covering. Snatching a stick from the fire, she struck the deer's nose and the white ash stuck there leaving a white mark that can still be seen on the descendants of that deer.

"Hereafter, you shall avoid mankind," she pronounced. "Your nose will tell you when you are too close to them."

Thus ended the short period of harmony between man and the animals. Each day the animals wandered farther and farther from the tribes. Apaches prayed that the animals would return so they could enjoy the good meat again. It is mostly at night when the deer appear, but not too close, because the old grandmother told them to be guided by their noses!

Apaches developed skill in using the bows and arrows to hunt the good animal meat they liked so much, especially the buffalo.

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Cherokee Bear Legend

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In the long ago time, there was a Cherokee Clan call the Ani-Tsa-gu-hi (Ahnee-Jah-goo-hee), and in one family of this clan was a boy who used to leave home and be gone all day in the mountains. After a while he went oftener and stayed longer, until at last he would not eat in the house at all, but started off at daybreak and did not come back until night. His parents scolded, but that did no good, and the boy still went every day until they noticed that long brown hair was beginning to grow out all over his body. Then they wondered and asked him why it was that he wanted to be so much in the woods that he would not even eat at home. Said the boy, "I find plenty to eat there, and it is better than the corn and beans we have in the settlements, and pretty soon I am going into the woods to say all the time." His parents were worried and begged him not leave them, but he said, "It is better there than here, and you see I am beginning to be different already, so that I can not live here any longer. If you will come with me, there is plenty for all of us and you will never have to work for it; but if you want to come, you must first fast seven days."

The father and mother talked it over and then told the headmen of the clan. They held a council about the matter and after everything had been said they decided: "Here we must work hard and have not always enough. There he says is always plenty without work. We will go with him." So they fasted seven days, and on the seventh morning al the Ani-Tsa-gu-hi left the settlement and started for the mountains as the boy led the way.

When the people of the other towns heard of it they were very sorry and sent their headmen to persuade the Ani Tsaguhi to stay at home and not go into the woods to live. The messengers found them already on the way, and were surprised to notice that their bodies were beginning to be covered with hair like that of animals, because for seven days they had not taken human food and their nature was changing. The Ani Tsaguhi would not come back, but said, "We are going where there is always plenty to eat. Hereafter we shall be called Yonv(a) (bears), and when you yourselves are hungry come into the woods and call us and we shall shall come to give you our own flesh. You need not be afraid to kill us, for we shall live always." Then they taught the messengers the songs with which to call them and bear hunters have these songs still. When they had finished the songs, the Ani Tsaguhi started on again and the messengers turned back to the settlements, but after going a little way they looked back and saw a drove of bears going into the woods.

Aho! We are all Related!

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O'siyo Camchak,
Ni Ya We for sharing yet some more interesting and insightful stories of the Native Americans smile.gif I am partial to the Cherokee Bear Legend story rolleyes.gif Your stories are always interesting and much welcomed when it comes to reading something about my peoples cheers.gif
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O'siyo,
Just wanted to share a 'clip' with those interested walkman.gif
This is a favourite of mine while doing my smudgings ... These are Native Voices, women from various tribes~~
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O'siyo,
*Can hardly wait to visit with Papa Bluefeather* one more day!..we always do the sweat lodge, a pipe ceremony and many hours just sitting in his sanctuary meditating, chatting and exploring the darkest yet most powerful parts of the mind dry.gif I always stop by and visit with Him and Nana before heading down to the Island..and on my way back 'home' I stop by again with fruit and homemade soaps and candles.. hug.gif He is the last in the 'family' that has 100% Native American blood..Sioux, White Plains..Lakota..I have noticed the older He gets the harder it is to leave Him sad.gif ..I cherish every visit and always learn something new from Him..how glorious is that! tongue.gif
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O'siyo,
~Best part of my journey was my 48 hours in Papa's sanctuary~ cool.gif Beautiful visions and so much peace~ sleep.gif Couple days later Papa and I spent 24 hours on top of a mountain..sacred ground..the ground where we spent our tyme was directly in the middle of 3 major routes/paths of the Indian..paths they used to travel~ They ended up crossing beneath a Poplar and Pine tree~ rolleyes.gif It is always amazing when Papa and I can spend tyme together!~ hug.gif
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I am 1/16 Native American, and wish so much to find my roots in it!

Amazing stories.


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"Men at some time are masters of their fate"
Jul Caesar, Act i, Sc.2

"When sorrow comes, they come not single spies, but in battalions"
Hamlet, Act iv, Sc.5

"All that lives must die, passing through nature to eternity"
Hamlet, Act i, Sc.2
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