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Posted: 11-Jun-2004, 10:14 PM
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Lemon Balm, Lemon Thyme, etc. planted around also help!

Let us all know if it works for you please.


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Just looking at the posts I must be the only one located in the Southern part of the US and dealing with Fire Ants on a daily bases! Diazinon is the weapon of choice or the newer version. enviromentally safe, pet safe, etc.... We get it at Home Depot, dose the yard heavily and do not disturb the ant piles. They will go away. We have to do this at least once per month. I keep trying to send some Fire Ants up North so we can share the little pests, but they do not like the cold weather....LOL!


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Posted: 26-Jun-2004, 10:36 PM
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Hi everyone! I know this update's long overdue, and I'm sorry.

Let's see--I started off with the corn meal, sprinkling it all around the ant hills. They didn't seem to like it, once they came to investigate it. None of them wanted to cross the circles I'd made! I decided that was fine, as long as they wanted to stay in their hills and starve. Unfortunately, I found (about a week later) they'd only moved the colony a short distance away. Okay, so Step Two: Baker's Yeast and sugar solution. Our dog thought I'd left treats all around the place for her! I caught her licking it up, and that was the end of that. rolleyes.gif Shadows, my Mother-in-Law suggested something similar to your idea of planting Lemon-scented plants everywhere. She said to pour lemon juice straight into their hills. I tried that, and it seemed to have worked. There wasn't any activity for a couple of days, but unfortunately I found new tunnels a few feet away again, so they've just moved a bit. I think the next thing to do is to find some Mint Oil (Victor sells it in cans) and just saturate their areas with it. Should kill a good portion of them, and convince the rest to leave the area altogether! (At least, that's my hope.) I know that ants don't like Pennyroyal, but I've also heard that it can become toxic to pets ( the sensitivity builds up). Has anyone else heard that? I've been considering planting that in the lawn areas that have been denuded by the ants, as a more permanent deterrent to their return, but of course I don't want to hurt our dog.

Well, that's where I am so far. I'll let you all know how the Mint Oil does with them, as soon as I'm able to try it. I've been successful with Victor's Poison-Free spray against bees, flies, wasps,spiders,and earwigs before, so I have high hopes it'll do the job on Ant Hills too. I'll just have to be very accurate and saturate the ground with it.

I nearly forgot! I came across a reference in a book of Old Wives Tales about garden lore that may be useful. It said that if you crush the flower of a Lupin, and smear the remains all around the base of trees, the ants will leave those trees alone and will not climb them. It's recommended for the protection of Fruit Trees. Does anyone grow Lupins, and will you try it? I'm curious!

Again, thanks everyone!! Will continue to let you know how the battle goes. laugh.gif

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Posted: 29-Jun-2004, 08:12 AM
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Hi Dreamer1..

I grow lupines.. I would be happy to send you a few of the flowers..

Pennyroyal .. I would be careful with.. I don't even handle that herb
with out gloves on..

I'd go with lemon balm first...
it is hale and hearty ! and if you need some plants,
I'd be more than happy to share..
its sort of bossy and takes over, like mint..
Looks sort of the same too, but the fragrance is wonderful..
and the leaves make a nice compliment to iced tea..
I like to freeze them in icecubes..

I hope they are giving your family some peace !
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Posted: 29-Jun-2004, 09:00 PM
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Thanks Paula!

I didn't realize that Pennyroyal is that strong. I'll be careful where I put it. I do have Lemon Balm already, and I agree with you-it's wonderful! I only have a small patch right now, but will get more planted asap. The Lupines are on my wish list, so maybe this will help improve my chances of getting some. tongue.gif

I have noticed that some of the ants seem to have moved elsewhere, because there's been no activity in those spots for about a week now. I'm watching them. We still have some really stubborn groups, and they're getting all my attention right now. It's just a matter of time, with all the great advise you all are giving me!

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Pennyroyal is only toxic in massive doses such as the essential oils from it. I have it growing in my yard for many years and have had no adverse effects to my pets, in fact I make a tea of it and rinse the dogs after a bath to help keep fleas and ticks away. I have used it yearly on my one dog and she is 14 years old and still kicking. I handle it almost daily while weeding and I still an here.
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I will predict that none of the non-poisonous methods will work. Sorry, not trying to be negative, but I too live in the South, and ants are at war with us here about 10 months out of the year. Some of the methods such as the Lemon type will serve only to cause them to migrate. Disturbing the mounds often causes undesired result as the ants most often will increase the size of a mound during their "home repairs". There is only one sure way to be rid of an ant mound and it's occupants permanently. That is to kill the queen. If the queen dies so do the rest. Strange but true. So look for a poison that is of a bait variety. The queen dwells deep within the mound and is guarded by the colony. So the bait must be delivered to her. The bait type poisons usually take about 4 days to work. Small price to pay to get the use of your yard back while bare-footed.


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If you want the ants gone do not play with them! We fight them every day down here in the South! Diazinon is the weapon! smile.gif
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I live in coastal Georgia and so do the fire ants. I use Ortho Fire Ant Bait. It kills the queen. I have a 20 acre yard. So I patrol the property once a week if I can. When I see a hint of a fire ant mound I use the Ortho. My place is fire ant free. Ortho also works on harvester ants, too.
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Agrees with Coastman......
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Shadows,,
As allways your wisdom is so very appriecated ..
and your willingness to share is so gracious ...
I thank you so very much for this !

But Pennyroyal really should be given a bit of respect,
by us Women...
I treat all herbs with a bit of respect..
as since I do not have an MD ...
I do not disense Medical Advice ...

One never knows , if someone is on Meds daily..
and how handeling ANY herb will affect that person ..
Pennyroyal has properties, which I will not say on a public
form.. that can affect women at various stages of life..
Treat it , and any other Medicinal Herb with respect !

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QUOTE (Camchak @ 04-Jul-2004, 09:01 PM)
If you want the ants gone do not play with them! We fight them every day down here in the South! Diazinon is the weapon! smile.gif

Diazinon has been banned by the EPA. All retailer stocks of the stuff were to be sold from the stores to the general public by April, 2004 (I think). There is of course a replacement, but believe me when I tell you, it's no Diazinon. The Ortho Ant Bait is very good, but here in the South, fire ants seem to be learning and adapting as quickly as we come up with new extermination methods. Good luck to you!!!!
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Hi everyone,

I thought I'd let you know how the "war" goes so far....

I got really frustrated with one of the most stubborn colonies--they wanted to take over that section of the garden! nono.gif I retaliated by grabbing a can of Victor Wasp and Bee spray (the foaming variety) and aimed that nozzle right down the main hole. nuke.gif Drained half the can before the foam began seeping up through their emergency exits all around the area. I waited a minute to let it all soak in, then drained the rest of the can. Yes, I know it was vicious of me, but I've tried to be nice then downright gave them notice and they refused to pay attention!! That was about three days ago, and there's been no more activity in that area of my garden! I'm going out to replenish my supply of Victor's! tank.gif robot.gif

(I know that the Bait varieties are also successful usually, but our dog thinks they're invaders on her turf and pulls them up, then chews them for good measure. That's why I'm going this route instead.)

Thanks again everyone! I'm continuing the war, will send regular reports in as often as possible. **Reporting from the Northern Front....**

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