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Posted: 27-May-2004, 12:53 PM
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There are some very interesting replies on this fire ant thread at Gardenweb:

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/so...1562126714.html

One of the replies mentions using dry jalopeño pods to keep the ants out:

"A friend told me to put pods of jalapeno peppers out. I didn't want to use chemicals around in and out of the house because of a small child. Well, dardest thing it worked. I put them in the cabinets, on a window seal, on the back decks in inconspicuous places."

Hope you find something that works for you.

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Posted: 27-May-2004, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (Raven @ 26-May-2004, 10:59 PM)
In dire cases Rose (and I would only recomend this as a last resort if they should penetrate your perimeter and gain a foothold in your house) soak the entire house in Kerosene (the match is optional at this point as the kerosene should be enough to kill them tongue.gif )

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Raven you are always so funny! Whenever I read a lot of your posts, I crack up laughing out loud! Don't think I will be taking your ant advice though. I can't afford to buy another house! biggrin.gif


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Posted: 30-May-2004, 06:56 AM
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Dreamer..
I am sorry to hear of your issue,,
You and I are of like mind on the posin issue..
There is an easy and effective soloution that has worked for me.

BORAX..
As in Twenty Mule Team Borax !
this sticks to their legs..and they track it back to the nest..
and when they groom each other, I suppose the lye acts as a toxin!
you can flood the nests with it , and leave it around them..

As for the dog, it is a detergent.. so I would try not to let him eat it ..
as more than likey , it will clean him out like a white tornado..

I find it amazing you have the variety you have..
Ants with wings are NOT a good thing around wood..
Those I would keep an eye on ! they are very destructive..

You may want to look for an exterminater that uses less harsh treatments..
We do have a few here.. that use the crysanthmum based treaments..

Good Luck!
and please keep us posted..
I am going to do a bit of research ..
If I find something better, I will post it !

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Posted: 31-May-2004, 09:55 PM
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Hi everyone,

We've had two wonderful, sunny (for the most part) days here (she types joyfully, grinning broadly at the memory of sun!). I decided I'd better take advantage of it all by trying out the corn meal remedy. Well, amid curious questions from our girls and a quick, interested check from our dog, I circled lots of those ant hills with the corn meal, catching a few stray ants in the process. I thought they'd report back to their colonies that *food* had been delivered from above, and we would then see mass recon/plundering parties sent forth. Imagine my surprise, then, to wait minute by minute without any kind of activity ensuing from said hills. No recon, no scouting parties, no mass exodus of soldiers armed for battle, nothing! They seem to be afraid to venture forth or even to come to their door! We've watched and kept notice all day but not a single brave soul has shown itself. I'm content to let them all stay underground and starve, though it seems a worse fate than eating themselves to death. The only bad news is that we're supposed to get more rain overnight, so I'll be repeating the procedure, but hey-if it works, I can do that.

Will let you all know the outcome in a few more days, but so far I'm happy with this one. A bit mystified, but happy just the same! laugh.gif

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Thanks Paula! I totally forgot about Borax! I have some too! Sometimes I sprinkle it all on my carpet and leave it there for a day or two and then vacuum! You wouldn't believe the bugs that come out from nowhere laying on their backs dead! It is great stuff! Never thought about using it outside on the ant hills! I will try that !
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Boric Acid would probably be more effective then Borax against the ants. Here are a couple of websites that have some info on Boric Acid. The first is an article concerning Boric acid and borates in general, http://devinefarm.net/rp/rpboric.htm
The next one is an MSDS on Borax http://www.borax.com/pdfs/dist/MSDS_Borax_...Decahydrate.pdf Then the last one is a MSDS on Boric Acid. http://ois.nist.gov/srmcatalog/msds/951-MSDS.pdf


Just like to make a couple of general remarks here concerning the use of different chemicals. I actually started to write a similar post and post it to the women's thread about the claims that many manufacturers (especially the eco-correct ones) make. Even though a substance may be found in nature does not necessarily mean it is particularily safe, or safer then a synthetic product. In fact, research on naturally occuring pesticides etc. may be much less then what has been done on synthetic products and therefore not as complete as one would demand from a manufactured material.

The chrysanthemum based pesticide is called pyrethrin (pyrethrum), and although it is one of the pesticides with lower toxicity in mammals, one would still want to be very respectful of it. Here is a link to a data sheet on pyrethrum http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/pyrethrins.pdf

Well, hope that helps some. I don't mean to sound alarmist at all, just that it does weary me a great deal to hear a lot of the claims made by various people supposedly concerned with the environment, but simply putting forth bad science and hearsay as fact.

To sum up, as far as the ants go, I would recommend boric acid dumped inside the anthill. Keep it out of reach of pets etc, but the small amounts they would be likely to pick up are probably insignificant.

Hope that helps.

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Oh thanks Leo! thumbs_up.gif
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Rosemary, if you have a True Value Hardware near you, ask for Terro Ant Killer. That's the BORAX product that Leo is suggesting.


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If you want the Boric Acid product (which is very strong) ask for Roach Prufe or Victor Roach Pwder. Might even get rid of the scorpions.


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Oh thank you, Mike! I don't have a True Value but have Home Depot and Ace Hardware. I really have a major problem with ants. It is unbelievable. I go out there and spray an ant hill.............then a few days later..........more ants! Arrrrrgh!
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CR, get that blow torch out and you'll rid yourself of those pest in no time flat. Great stress relief! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (maggiemahone1 @ 04-Jun-2004, 09:27 PM)
CR, get that blow torch out and you'll rid yourself of those pest in no time flat. Great stress relief! biggrin.gif

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Yeah! but it is so hot here in Arizona right now I can hardly understand how they survive! With a blow torch and this heat, I may blow up the whole yard and house! Guess I'll have to do it in the middle of the night when the temps are cooler. laugh.gif
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CR, maybe now is the time to have friends over for dinner and a little dancing. Take your party outdoors and stomp those ants into oblivion.

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Funny you should mention that, Maggie! I am having a party at my house on June 19th! I will play a little Celtic music and have them stamp out those ants! biggrin.gif
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Lemon, Lemon, Lemon!!! Anything lemon,... juice, dish soap, old peels, etc. Ants will not cross an area where a line of lemon is present... they hate it! I have seen an entire column of ants doa an about face at the first drop of lemon juice!


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Really, Shadows?! wow I will try that next then! Wow! thank you so much!
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