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RavenWing 
Posted: 14-May-2004, 10:39 AM
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I have been slowly moving out of the realm of Wicca for a few years now. The more I learn, the more I realize that I have no desire to be bound to any form of religion, be it pagan or no. It is a very liberating feeling, actually.

Why am I leaving Wicca? I will try to explain, but I may not be able to put my feelings into words. I do not like the thought of worshipping deities. I do believe they exist, but I think they should be honored, rather than worshipped. I cringe when I think of performing a ritual. It's funny that the verb mostly used with the word "ritual" is "performing". To me it implies that you are putting on another persona, rather than being yourself.

My idea of connecting with the spiritual is tracing my fingers through the dirt, or being aware of the wind caressing my face, or admiring the way the water dances on pebbles in a stream.

I don't know what else to say except that this is exciting for me, and I would love to read what your comments are.


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Posted: 14-May-2004, 12:36 PM
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It sounds perfectly justified to me. smile.gif

It looks as though you're retaining your faith, but letting go of doctrine. Which is exactly what I've done with my own religion. Focusing more on the big picture and the meaning of it all than the little actions that are expected of you to 'appear' to be a believer. Which is for the benefit of critical eyes, not your own benefit. Faith has nothing to do with doctrine. Nothing. It's what you believe, not what you do. Right?


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Posted: 14-May-2004, 12:52 PM
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Raven Wing,

This is exactly where I have been ever since I was 16. To me this is much more that Peace and Harmony. It is actually one thing to me:

LIFE and LIVING IT


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Posted: 14-May-2004, 12:53 PM
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I like the way you put that OR. It summs up how I feel. Thanks.
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Posted: 14-May-2004, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Bercot @ May 14 2004, 05:52 PM)
Raven Wing,

This is exactly where I have been ever since I was 16.  To me this is much more that Peace and Harmony.  It is actually one thing to me:

LIFE and LIVING IT

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Posted: 14-May-2004, 12:58 PM
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I totally respect what you have said!
And I think it happens alot. I for the most part do not label myself as being any 'religion'. Or worshipping specfic diety(s). Which you and I have discussed over the past couple of years. ( WOW that's a long *** time! wink.gif )
I found, much like you, that living what you belive is far more satisfying.

I too did not agree with many things involved in Wicca, and other beliefs as well. And did not want to be put into a 'catagory' of belief. Pick and choose what you want and leave the rest. Why put a label on it?

Congrats, MAry on your realization!

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Posted: 14-May-2004, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE (barddas @ May 14 2004, 05:58 PM)
I totally respect what you have said!
And I think it happens alot. I for the most part do not label myself as being any 'religion'. Or worshipping specfic diety(s). Which you and I have discussed over the past couple of years. ( WOW that's a long *** time! wink.gif )
I found, much like you, that living what you belive is far more satisfying.

I too did not agree with many things involved in Wicca, and other beliefs as well. And did not want to be put into a 'catagory' of belief. Pick and choose what you want and leave the rest. Why put a label on it?

Congrats, MAry on your realization!

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It HAS been a long time, hasn't it? smile.gif
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Posted: 14-May-2004, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE (peckery @ May 14 2004, 10:11 PM)
Can I have your pointed hat? king.gif

nobody......NOBODY gets my pointy hat!


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Posted: 14-May-2004, 09:37 PM
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Mary<
You are now free, welcome!!!


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QUOTE (Shadows @ May 15 2004, 02:37 AM)
Mary<
You are now free, welcome!!!

Thank you, I do feel very free. I am looking forward to the rest of my journey.
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Posted: 15-May-2004, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (RavenWing @ May 15 2004, 10:47 AM)
QUOTE (Shadows @ May 15 2004, 02:37 AM)
Mary<
You are now free, welcome!!!

Thank you, I do feel very free. I am looking forward to the rest of my journey.

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Posted: 15-May-2004, 02:11 PM
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Thank you so much Mary for not giving the Peckery your hat. He would have made himself quite a nuisance with it I am sure at all of our band rehearsals tongue.gif

Cogratulations on your freedom. Are you sure that you can't keep your Robe?? I think robes are so cooool biggrin.gif

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You have stepped on to a new path, I wish for you Joy, Happiness, Good Fortune & the wisdom to see the truth. I am excited for you this must truly be a joyous occasion. Many Many heart felt Hugs!

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QUOTE (Raven @ May 15 2004, 07:11 PM)
Cogratulations on your freedom. Are you sure that you can't keep your Robe?? I think robes are so cooool biggrin.gif

I am hanging up my robe, not throwing it away. lol tongue.gif
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