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Randy 
Posted: 27-Apr-2004, 08:45 AM
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Wow I had not heard that, but on NPR this morning they were saying that the King of Jordan canceled its trip to the White House because he says Bush is taking Israel's side. Some thing about not lettign refugies back into Israel sorry forgot exacts.
You think if the US saved thousands of lives he would want to come.
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On a confession shown on state-run Jordanian television, Jayyousi said he took orders from Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a suspected terrorist leader who has been linked to al Qaeda and whom U.S. officials have said is behind some attacks in Iraq.

"I took explosives courses, poisons high level, then I pledged allegiance to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, to obey him without any questioning," Jayyousi said.

Jordanian intelligence suspects Jayyousi returned from Iraq in January after a meeting with al-Zarqawi in which they allegedly plotted to hit the three targets in Amman.

The first alleged target was the Jordanian intelligence headquarters. The alleged blast was intended to be a big one.

"According to my experience as an explosives expert, the whole of the Intelligence Department will be destroyed, and nothing of it will remain, nor anything surrounding it," Jayyousi said.

In an videotape shown on Jordanian TV, Hussein Sharif said Jayyousi recruited him as a suicide bomber.

"The aim, Azmi told me, was to execute an operation to strike Jordan and the Hashemite Royal family, a war against the crusaders and infidels," Sharif said. "Azmi told me that this will be the first chemical attack that al Qaeda will execute."

Jordanian authorities said the attack would have mixed a combination of 71 lethal chemicals, which they said has never been done before, including blistering agents to cause third-degree burns, nerve gas and choking agents.

A Jordanian government scientist said the plot had been carefully worked out, with just the right amount of explosives to spread the deadly cloud without diminishing the effects of the chemicals. The blast would not burn up the poisonous chemicals but instead produce a toxic cloud, the scientist said, possibly spreading for a mile, maybe more.

The Jordanian intelligence buildings are within a mile of a large medical center, a shopping mall and a residential area.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/26/...rror/index.html

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A toxic cloud, containing blistering agents to cause third-degree burns, nerve gas and choking agents, spreading towards a medical center, a shopping mall, and a residential area.

These aren't freedom fighters or militiamen as Michael Moore is fond of explaining. These aren't insurgents as the world's media is fond of explaining. These are cold-blooded serial murderers. They need to be "dealt with" before they can kill more innocents. And not by lawyers and subpoenas and police as Kerry wants.

Oh Randy - I couldn't find any traces of this story on NPR.org. I wonder why?



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Posted: 27-Apr-2004, 11:44 AM
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In a different but related story, from Insight, the sister newsmagazine to the Washington Times.


Investigative Report
Saddam's WMD Have Been Found
Post April 26, 2004
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New evidence out of Iraq suggests that the U.S. effort to track down Saddam Hussein's missing weapons of mass destruction (WMD) is having better success than is being reported. Key assertions by the intelligence community that were widely judged in the media and by critics of President George W. Bush as having been false are turning out to have been true after all. But this stunning news has received little attention from the major media, and the president's critics continue to insist that "no weapons" have been found.



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A United Nations police force was in Kosovo. In this police force were (at least) two American women, one American man, and one Palestinian from Jordan.

The group of Americans, along with some Turkish personnel, were leaving a prison in the northern Kosovo town of Mitrovica when they were attacked by the Palestinian. It was their first day on the job. The Palestinian carried an M-16, from which he apparently discharged 400 rounds into the group, killing the three Americans and injuring eleven other people. According to the Associated Press, they were "trapped between a locked gate and Ali's assault rifle."

The carnage continued until the Palestinian's weapon jammed. The surviving Americans then stormed the Jordanians' guard shack, where they found his four comrades hiding. The Americans grabbed their weapons from them and killed the assailant, firing 16 bullets into his body.

The dead assailant, Sergeant Major Ahmed Mustafa Ibrahim Ali, is being investigated for connections with Hamas, the Palestinian terror organization. He had visited the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, home of the Wahhabi Islamic sect that produced al Qaeda, only a month before he was sent to Kosovo in March.

NATO investigators are examining whether his four colleagues in a Jordanian detachment assigned to guard the prison had helped him by feeding his weapon as he fired.

The Americans shot back with pistols. An Austrian guard heard the noise and ran to the scene, but was wounded in the legs by the Palestinian.

The Associated Press account states chillingly, "When he had shot all those he could see, Ali paced around the vans [in which the Americans had been riding], searching for more victims."

Because Kosovo media operates under heavy U.N. censorship, the whole truth about this atrocity may not be known for some time. But terrorism expert Dan Pipes warned this week, "If the Hamas connection does materialize, it could mean that the organization has in fact begun in earnest its war with the United States."

Full story at: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Publ...04/024rjfgr.asp

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OK, so here we have a UN police force comprised of people from several nations. One of them is a Palestinian from Jordan, and he has some other Jordanian buddies close by. He then uses his automatic rifle to slaughter his fellow police officers in a clear attack against Americans. He is rumored to be connected with Hamas (the people that have already publically commanded all followers to kill Americans wherever they are). His Jordanian buddies kept his rifle fed with fresh ammunition. It was a complete slaughter, stopped only when his gun jammed and others were able to kill him.

Wake up people. World War 3, the fight of the civilized versus Islamic fanatics, has started. Actually it's been going on for years, but most of the world is just now figuring it out.

They have changed the outcome of one national election. Before the Madrid bombing "the Popular Party had been favored to win by a comfortable margin" [http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/03/14/spain.blasts.election/], but after the bombing "the election was thrown wide open by a reported al Qaeda claim that it was responsible for Thursday's Madrid train bombings to punish the government for supporting the Iraq war".

That's right, al Qaeda was able to change the expected outcome of a national election.

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And now it seems that a Palestinian slaughtered his fellow teammates just because they're Americans. Where is the UN outrage over this? Why has there been no media coverage on this?

Stand up or bow down - it's your choice.

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this is terrible.


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Posted: 30-Apr-2004, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE (Shamalama @ Apr 30 2004, 11:49 AM)

Wake up people. World War 3, the fight of the civilized versus Islamic fanatics, has started. Actually it's been going on for years, but most of the world is just now figuring it out.

They have changed the outcome of one national election. Before the Madrid bombing "the Popular Party had been favored to win by a comfortable margin" [http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/03/14/spain.blasts.election/], but after the bombing "the election was thrown wide open by a reported al Qaeda claim that it was responsible for Thursday's Madrid train bombings to punish the government for supporting the Iraq war".

That's right, al Qaeda was able to change the expected outcome of a national election.

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And now it seems that a Palestinian slaughtered his fellow teammates just because they're Americans. Where is the UN outrage over this? Why has there been no media coverage on this?

Stand up or bow down - it's your choice.


"They have changed the outcome of one national election. Before the Madrid bombing "the Popular Party had been favored to win by a comfortable margin"
They have changed the outcome of one national election. Before the Madrid bombing "the Popular Party had been favored to win by a comfortable margin"

This is simply not true. 90% of the Spanish people were already against the war.

War with the Saudi's? Bush's 'good buddies'? Possible. The Saudi Royal family and the Bush Mafia have been in bed together for many years, manipulating world oil prices, among other things. Watch the price of gasoline take a nice drop just before the election..... rolleyes.gif


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Posted: 30-Apr-2004, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE (Herrerano @ Apr 27 2004, 11:44 AM)
In a different but related story, from Insight, the sister newsmagazine to the Washington Times.


Investigative Report
Saddam's WMD Have Been Found
Post April 26, 2004
By Kenneth R. Timmerman




New evidence out of Iraq suggests that the U.S. effort to track down Saddam Hussein's missing weapons of mass destruction (WMD) is having better success than is being reported. Key assertions by the intelligence community that were widely judged in the media and by critics of President George W. Bush as having been false are turning out to have been true after all. But this stunning news has received little attention from the major media, and the president's critics continue to insist that "no weapons" have been found.



Here is the whole story.


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Quoting Kenneth R. Timmerman in a rag that is Right Wing to the point of Fascism doesn't make what you are saying true. Just the opposite, It makes anything reported there WAY beyond suspect! I respect you, Brother Herrano, but come ON....
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maisky: 90% of the Spanish people were already against the war.



Ah, that's why I also included the statement in quotes and included the CNN reference. Against the war maybe, but the election was turned around by the bombings. Either that or CNN is wrong.

And what do you mean the Washington Times is "Right Wing to the point of Fascism"? I simply see them trying to balance out rags like the New York Times, a self-described 'newspaper of record' that has not endorsed a Republican presidental candidate sinve Eisenhower in the 1950's. Fair and balanced, with no agenda - yeah right.

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The reality is not that the Spaniards 'gave into terrorism' but that the Spanish people voted against the then ruling party because they LIED about who was responsible. The Govt said that all the evidence pointed towards ETA... even though they had information that Muslim operatives were expected to try some atrocity in the near future.

The Spanish people were OUTRAGED that their Govt lied to them. THAT is why they voted them out.. The old adage of fooling some of the people some of the time seems to hold good here.

The fact that 90 plus per cent of the Spanish electorate were agin the war, just meant that when the party which had fought on the platform of removing their troops from Iraq elected... the Spanish people felt it was the right thing to do.
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Exactly why was it that the government said the attacks came from ETA? Did the government hate the ETA more than al Qaeda? Were they scared that they would lose the election of al Qaeda was implicated?

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Turkish police said Monday they had foiled a bomb plot targeting a NATO summit in Istanbul at the end of June.

Police arrested 16 men they said were believed to belong to a militant Islamist group called Ansar al-Islam. They were detained on April 29 in the town of Bursa, 160 miles south of Istanbul.

The police also seized guns, explosives, bomb-making booklets and 4,000 compact discs featuring training instructions from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

The men arrested in Bursa had also been plotting an attack on a synagogue in the town as well as a bank robbery to raise funds for their operations, Bursa governor Oguz Kagan Koksal said.

Turkey is the only Muslim member of NATO.

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Are we at the point yet where an Islamic group makes or attempts an attack once each week? Are there people that still think this is a police action that can be solved with lawyers and subpoena?

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Most countries have to deal with terrorism on a fairly regular basis. The situation in Spain was complex. Their governments quick statement about ETA was definitely the wrong thing to say. The Basque separatist movement has give the Spanish government trouble for a long time. Their attacks were not the type of wanton killing that the train attacks represent. A number of the other coalition members are removing their troops from Iran. We are not far from going it alone, under the current administration. sad.gif
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A statement attributed to Osama bin Laden today offered rewards in gold for the killing of top US and UN officials in Iraq.

The transcript of an audio recording dated today appeared on a website known for militant Islamic messages.

The website gave links to hear the statement, but none were working. The authenticity of the statement could not immediately be verified.

"You know that America promised big rewards for those who kill mujahideen (holy warriors)," the transcript read.

"We in al-Qaeda organisation will guarantee, God willing, 10,000 grams of gold to whoever kills the occupier Bremer, or the American chief commander or his deputy in Iraq." He was referring to Paul Bremer, the chief US administrator in Iraq, and top military officials.

The statement also promised the same reward for the deaths of UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan and his envoy to Iraq, Lakhdar Brahimi.

"For security reasons, the rewards will be given as soon as conditions permit, God willing," the transcript read.

"As for those who die while killing an occupying soldier, the great prize will be for us and for him when God grants him martyrdom, and the smaller prize (the gold) will be for his family."

The transcript also denounced US plans to hand sovereignty to Iraqis on June 30, calling them a trick to end the resistance that has killed hundreds of US soldiers.

Full story at: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/commo...29^1702,00.html

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Cleric's Aide Says Captured Females Can Be Slaves.

BASRA, Iraq May 7, 2004 ? A senior aide of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr told worshippers during a Friday sermon in southern Iraq that anyone capturing a female British soldier can keep her as a slave.

The aide, Sheik Abdul-Sattar al-Bahadli, also called on supporters to launch jihad, or holy war, against British troops in this southern city.

He offered money to anyone capturing or killing a member of the Governing Council, the widely unpopular interim administration appointed by the U.S.-led occupation 10 months ago.

Al-Bahadli said 250,000 dinars _ about $350 _ will be given to anyone capturing a British soldier and 100,000 dinars _ or $150 _ to anyone killing one.

Full story at: http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/5704-iraq-slaves.html

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And no one, not the press, not the media, not any government officials, will even think about this for more than five minutes - yet will spend hours screaming in protest against people like Rumsfeld.

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Terrorism is a problem in all countries, the US is not excluded. We have long had the extreme-right "militias", ecoterrorists and "christian" terrorists (bombing clinics and shooting people). It is a mistake to look JUST at extreme Muslim groups. Shucks, some of the "good ol' boys" in North GA might qualify.... rolleyes.gif
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The Islamic fanatics just keep on coming. Too bad Libs just give them a free pass. After all, aren't they Freedom Fighters as Michael Moore says?

Madonna has axed three gigs in Israel ? after terrorists threatened to kill her and her kids.

The singer was terrified by a blitz of poison-pen letters.

She "freaked out" when she learned of a terrorist plot to kill her two young children if she performed in Israel.

She first planned to defy the extremists but cancelled after the unnamed Palestinian group mentioned details about Lourdes, seven, and three-year-old Rocco in a series of threatening letters.

Full story at: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-20042...4240450,00.html

OK. Madonna does not support Bush's war in Iraq, and she has publically said so. You would think that this would appease the Palestinians. But no. This group was threatening her because she represents many things they hate about the West. That's right: the Islamic fanatics simply hate the US, and are willing and prepared to kill any American simply because they're American. Some might call this attempted genocide.

These Islamic fanatics cannot be reasoned with. There are but a few options.

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