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andylucy 
Posted: 12-Mar-2004, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE (RobertH @ Mar 11 2004, 10:59 PM)
All these comments and nothing directed at us good old Southern Baptists?

Having come from that denomination, originally, I do know more about the SB brand of theology than other Protestant denominations. But I don't "usually" talk about other churches, I just discuss and/or defend what my Church teaches in relation to what they teach. biggrin.gif

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Posted: 12-Mar-2004, 12:23 AM
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Having come from that denomination, originally, I do know more about the SB brand of theology than other Protestant denominations. But I don't "usually" talk about other churches, I just discuss and/or defend what my Church teaches in relation to what they teach. biggrin.gif

Uh,psssst. A Glenfiddich bottle? A Southern Baptist? Tsk. Tsk. laugh.gif

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Posted: 12-Mar-2004, 12:25 AM
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Posted: 12-Mar-2004, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE (RobertH @ Mar 11 2004, 11:25 PM)
What can I say? We are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God...!

What more can one say to that than....Amen!

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Posted: 12-Mar-2004, 12:46 AM
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Southern Baptist to High Church Catholic? That's a story I want to hear.

And the Holy Spirit is emphatically real. As real as the love of your best friend.

Ah, I like 'head' knowledge and a good debate. But when it comes to religion, it's all academic. It has to be felt.



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QUOTE (Elspeth @ Mar 12 2004, 06:26 AM)
Southern Baptist to High Church Catholic? That's a story I want to hear.

And the Holy Spirit is emphatically real. As real as the love of your best friend.

Ah, I like 'head' knowledge and a good debate. But when it comes to religion, it's all academic. It has to be felt.

That is indeed a geographical oddity tongue.gif now I see why Andy Lucy is such a peculiar creature wink.gif

I have to say that the head knowledge went a long way towards activating my heart in this relationship with Christ biggrin.gif

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Posted: 13-Mar-2004, 12:11 AM
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Oops...didn't mean to mislead. I'm still a Baptist at heart - I just stole a Catholic and walked her down the aisle 23 years ago. Even converted her...shame on me!
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I stole and converted a Catholic too. Shame on me as well. wink.gif
But I didn't get him to convert to my "Dunkard' religion, had to go middle of the road Presbyterian. That adult baptism thing was too much for him. Baby sprinkling is more his style.

And Mike, I know head knowledge activates many. I just have to back off from it myself at times, because I can get caught up in the complex 'academics' and miss the power of the simple message.
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I have to plead ignorance re: Dunkards. Can you give me a quick outline?
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Dunkerds - Church of the Brethren. A Germanic Anabaptist denomination, cousins to the Mennonites. Begun in the 1500's after Luther's protests began the Reformation. The community moved to America by the early 1700's most settling in Pennsylvania, but then spread from there. It began as an agrairarian (sp?) community and still has strongholds in the rural areas.

Since they believe in adult immersion baptism they were coined Dunk - erds. smile.gif
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Thanks, Elspeth. The more I learn, the more I learn that I have much to learn. The German side of my family didn't make it to the US until the 1960's, so I guess we missed that emigration.
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Ok, I want to contribute, but I don't want to get into an acedemic discussion since I feel we'll never be sure bout the accuracy of much of the early translations of scripture. That in mind, here's my two cents;


I've read posts here that indicate some disagreement with what constitutes right living in the sight of God. It appears that some believe (you know who you are) that pomp and circumstance, i.e. traditional, ceremonial acts, are essential to your faith. That to me is a direct contradiction of the word "faith". I've read in the scriptures that "faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Nowhere have I read that faith is gained by your actions, recitation of pre-determined prayer, or other forms of ceremonialism (is that a word?)

Also, to followers of Christ. In my bibles it states that there is only one Church, and one Mediator between God and Man, Jesus Christ. I do not put this in quotation marks since I'm not sure of the exact wording, but do have the idea intact.


Semantics seems to be playing too large a role in religion. If we are truly united by God through Jesus Christ, then why can't that be enough? This is precisely why I don't go to churches any more. I have enough trouble putting my faith in Him to deliver me from all sorts of evil without puttin myself in the throws of others that act as though Jesus isn't enough.


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I agree semantics comes in to play an aweful lot in the way that scripture is interpreted.

Your non quoute is a little off wink.gif For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus 1Tim2:5

The word church is interpreted by many to mean an organized church/religion/denomination/etc or the building that you meet in on the first day of the week. But I interpret that word from scripture (which literally means called out) to be the body of believers in Jesus Christ as Lord.

I for one apreciate your 2 cents (keep that money coming it adds up tongue.gif )

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QUOTE (Raven @ 01-Jun-2004, 10:48 PM)


I for one apreciate your 2 cents (keep that money coming it adds up tongue.gif )


Thanks a bunch for the compliment. And I adamently agree that the correct interpretation for the "Church" should be the body of believers. Yet today, even from the pulpit, there seems to be a lot of bad interpretation for this and many other "select" scriptures. Chief among those is "judge not lest ye be judged". I read somewhere that "a text without a context is a pretext for a prooftext". I wish I had come up with that one. Anyway, it appears to me that there is an overwhelming number of people that love to use bible verses, sentences, to support an entire doctrinal issue. I have absolutely no tolerance for this.

Oh forget it! I'm just rambling on now, with nowhere to go with my thoughts. Really I just wanted to thank you for the words, and for not kicking my butt for getting that one verse off a bit. biggrin.gif
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