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Posted on 21-Jan-2004, 04:22 PM
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I think every state in europe goes or went through that... and of course the dutch started it... smile.gif


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Posted on 21-Jan-2004, 04:30 PM
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What 2 people do within their own privacy is none of my business. But I do not support it.

It is not Natural. dry.gif

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Posted on 21-Jan-2004, 05:50 PM
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And, assuming that Church actually WAS seperate from State, there should be no issue of making same sex marriages legal.


Excellent point, well stated. Thus far the only argument made in opposition to same sex marriage is that it is considered "immoral". The 'consistency' rule of logic would require that in order to enjoy freedom of religion one must also grant others freedom from religion.

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Posted on 21-Jan-2004, 06:12 PM
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You got it, Swanny. And this willingness to let it go would sure help end the trend of hating Christianity.


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Posted on 21-Jan-2004, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE (Swanny @ Jan 21 2004, 05:50 PM)

Excellent point, well stated. Thus far the only argument made in opposition to same sex marriage is that it is considered "immoral". The 'consistency' rule of logic would require that in order to enjoy freedom of religion one must also grant others freedom from religion.

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Well I would agree but would limit it to religion. Notice how it seems at least for the most part religious groups that are opposed to it?
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Posted on 21-Jan-2004, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (scottish2 @ Jan 21 2004, 06:21 PM)
QUOTE (Swanny @ Jan 21 2004, 05:50 PM)

Excellent point, well stated.  Thus far the only argument made in opposition to same sex marriage is that it is considered "immoral".  The 'consistency' rule of logic would require that in order to enjoy freedom of religion one must also grant others freedom from religion.

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Well I would agree but would limit it to religion. Notice how it seems at least for the most part religious groups that are opposed to it?

As far as I am concerned, Religion has nothing to do with this.
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Posted on 21-Jan-2004, 06:40 PM
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That's because religions were formed in a time where it was important to continue makin babies, for a society to thrive.






or maybe I'm just full of hot air. tongue.gif
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Posted on 21-Jan-2004, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Bercot @ Jan 21 2004, 06:28 PM)
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QUOTE (Swanny @ Jan 21 2004, 05:50 PM)

Excellent point, well stated. Thus far the only argument made in opposition to same sex marriage is that it is considered "immoral". The 'consistency' rule of logic would require that in order to enjoy freedom of religion one must also grant others freedom from religion.

Swanny

Well I would agree but would limit it to religion. Notice how it seems at least for the most part religious groups that are opposed to it?

As far as I am concerned, Religion has nothing to do with this.

Somehow I don't think you would see a lot of Atheists running around yelling ban gay marriages. unsure.gif
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Posted on 21-Jan-2004, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE (oldraven @ Jan 21 2004, 06:40 PM)
That's because religions were formed in a time where it was important to continue makin babies, for a society to thrive.






or maybe I'm just full of hot air. tongue.gif

You think man still needs to survive?

As far as that goes, I am not really sure that I agree with marriages. wink.gif
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Posted on 21-Jan-2004, 10:16 PM
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What religion says about that, I couldn't care less. I think religion should not forbid happiness.

I agree completely. Religion should be about becoming happy, not telling people what the should or should not do. thumbs_up.gif


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Posted on 22-Jan-2004, 06:54 AM
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QUOTE (maisky @ Jan 21 2004, 10:16 PM)
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What religion says about that, I couldn't care less. I think religion should not forbid happiness.

I agree completely. Religion should be about becoming happy, not telling people what the should or should not do. thumbsup.gif

Also how many wars have been fought in the name of religion. I think that is why I am most curious about Asian religions I mean for the most part you don't hear of a Buddist Monk running around fighting their competitors like you had with wars like the Crusades.

And personally I can't stand how it has to be the churches way or the highway so that is why I chose not to be invoved in the blind leading the blind. And group that says I can't do something that makes me happy can as far as I am concerned go the way of the Dodo since when can one group force another to their beliefs in order to partake? I means it's been happening for eons I know but that doesn't make it right.
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Posted on 22-Jan-2004, 10:21 AM
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Don't blame religious wars on the religion itself. Blame it on the fanatic leaders who hide behind their religion. The Crusades were fought in the name of God, but I can guarantee that war is not an acceptable form of spreading the word, as far as the religion itself is concerned.
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Posted on 22-Jan-2004, 10:27 AM
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I didn't blame religion as religion by and of itself is harmless I did however say in the NAME OF RELIGION. wink.gif
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Posted on 22-Jan-2004, 11:19 PM
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It is fine by me, but don't call it marriage. Marriage is between man anda woman. Call it a partnership, give them all the benefits of marriage (Ins., taxes etc) but sweet tap dancing Jesus, don't call it marriage. cool.gif
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QUOTE (scottish2 @ Jan 21 2004, 10:09 PM)
Somehow I don't think you would see a lot of Atheists running around yelling ban gay marriages. unsure.gif

Atheists don't usually have an organized "Atheist" group and therefore, they wouldn't have a large collective voice.


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