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Should highlander radio pull civil war era songs?
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Posted on 19-Jun-2004, 10:13 PM
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If everything that was distastefull in history to someone were to be banished into oblivion then there would be no history to learn from and no music to hear. If it offends, don't listen! Listen, learn, and don't make the same mistakes.


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Posted on 19-Jun-2004, 11:55 PM
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here is a question?

If a person just listens to the song and didn't know what era it was from, would it still be offensive?

I listen to this station at work all day. I cant look at every cd cover that comes up. I heard a song once and really liked it so I checked to see what it was called. I was mildly suprised to see the cd cover and title information was for a song from the civil war era. I still enjoyed the song and thought it was great. But pulling a song because of what it could be associated with is not neccessary.

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Posted on 20-Jun-2004, 09:15 AM
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You've heard my 2c on this, Paul smile.gif To pull them would be wrong and as soon as you do so, you'd have to pull half the playlist if you pulled them because of offensive material. Keep them there! now let me end this post before I fly off the handle again.


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Posted on 21-Jun-2004, 05:16 AM
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Most of the confederate soldiers fought for the rights of the state to rule and against a federal government. It was only the north that pushed the civil war as a fight against slavery. The song should stay as they are a part of our history.


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Posted on 21-Jun-2004, 01:07 PM
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I was disappointed to find that so many people don't want to hear music from the civil war. The music of that era is so good, no matter what side you were/are on. The music is all about unity, strength, love, and all of it is very patriotic. I am sad that many people diasgree. Oh well.

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Posted on 21-Jun-2004, 08:39 PM
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The songs I remember hearing were haunting laments, seemingly influenced by the transplanted Scots who sang them. I never noticed they were Confederacy songs. Are they? I only remember hearing songs that are part of our American heritage. North or South. Aren't many traditional Celtic songs about wars? Should we ban those as well? People write songs about what makes them feel.

I hope you leave the songs.


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Posted on 23-Jun-2004, 03:05 PM
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It is our history, it has helped make us who we are today, just because we don'tlike it does not mean that we can ignore what happened. I found these songs in no way offensive. Leave them on the rotation.

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Posted on 24-Jun-2004, 11:14 PM
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What if we take off all the songs that could offend?

No more drinking songs, alcohol has ruined many lives.

No more songs of war.

No more songs that objectify or treat women in a less than respectful manner. (The Maid that sold her Barley)

No more songs that celebrate the exploitation of animals for sport. (Jackson and Jane, Paul Brady)

No more murder ballads.

Any song that mentions a deity is right out.


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Posted on 28-Jun-2004, 02:00 PM
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This is our heritage personally like it or not. Not playing the music will not change history and I find the conclusion that a Confederate song somehow glorifies slavery to be an ignorant understanding of the reasons that the War of Northern Agression was fought tongue.gif

Censorship of this sort would not be a good idea.

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Posted on 28-Jun-2004, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (Macfive @ 23-Mar-2002, 11:31 AM)
"While the music of the confederacy can be very colorful, it's playful melodies tend to mask the fact that it praises the fight to maintain the purchasing and ownership of human slaves in the southern states."


Once again, someone who doesn't know what southern folks were fighting for tries to tell us what terrible people we are. I suggest the writer do some in depth study before making such statements.

Pulling certain songs because some folks are offended is the first step onto the steep slope of censorship. At the bottom, one finds a world of enforced correctness and NO freedom.

Apologize for the political statements. The suggestion hit a couple of my "hot buttons". Leave the songs. They are good music and part of our cultural heritage.


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  Posted on 19-Aug-2004, 05:28 AM
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Grassroots nothing.
I think that all songs with mention to the IRA (namely let's all go and join them) I can't remember the band (Bogside Rogues?) but they get on my nerves something chronic.
Just my opinion mind you.
I would also pull the Braveheart album songs with dialogue from the movie but again that's just me.
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Posted on 19-Aug-2004, 10:58 AM
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Well, in my humble opinion, I don't feel Civil War songs belong on a Celtic radio network. They are neither Scottish, Irish or Celtic. Yes, there are other songs that are played on here that don't fit those categories as well, so maybe they should be pulled too. It's a tough question. I do not listen to the Civil War music (at least not knowingly). I tune into something else when those songs are aired on Saturady morning.

Now, I will say that none of the songs on here offend me in the least, but it's just my opinion that a "Celtic" radio station stick with "Celtic" style music.

So, it really wouldn't matter to me if they were played or not, since I do not listen to them. Just stating the principle of the matter.


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I cannot believe that "political correctness" has raised its ugly head on Celtic Radio. By nature we are rebels if Celtic blood runs in your blood. I am a True Son of the South. Many of you are misguided if you think slavery was the cause of the war. It was economics. The last tariff removed from southern commerce was in 1957. It was placed on southern commerce in 1865 reconstruction. My family have been fighting America's Wars since the French and Indian War. Although this was a British War. My family has not experienced a death in our family since Sharpsburg. Recently my nephew was killed in Air Force crash.
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It is always a touchy subject when you start examining the songs content and place in the great mix of things.

Each and every song is screened before insertation to the broadcast, not for lyrics, but for musical quality and relevance to our broadcast.

Playing such a wide range of Celtic music does not always work. Like trying to please different groups of people. There are old men complaining we are not playing the traditional stuff and the young man complain we are not playing enough Celtic Rock.

Then there are musicians that fuse together traditional songs in Gaelic with africian beats and synthizers. We even have songs written as pop-rock, soft-rock, that are played by Celtic musicians who then add their own 'Celtish' flair to the song.

Most of the Civil War songs have a Celtic background and I believe it captures the moment in history - just like the Scottish Song Glencoe or the Irish Song about the American Funeral. Capturing a moment on the battlefield, a happy exciting time at the dance, or singing about your love to be are all songs that you will hear on this broadcast. These are timeless songs and the lyrics are not meant to necessarily apply to todays world. Listening to them with your heart and not your mind.

There are so many more different types of Celtic music we don't play. Such as appalachian, galician (maybe a few), Brittany and Welsh to name a few. Hopefully in the coming years we can grow this broadcast to serve an even wider range of Celtic music that encompasses a rich and diverse Celtic background.

As far as the South is concerned, I have all the admiration and respect for Southern Families that have contributed to the success of these United States called America. We can not disgrace their families hertiage if they just so happened to fight on the confederate side. I don't think we do enough to memorialize the Confederates because of certain political issues. The cultural, family values, and hertiage of the south runs very deep. Many Many military families come from the South and they make our Military very strong. Presidents Johnson, Carter, Clinton and Bush all come from States of the former CSA.

The Civil War Broadcast we play on Sunday mornings is very new. We really need to obtain more music for it, so we will continue to work on it. Hopefully it will improve in the coming months!


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QUOTE (Macfive @ 23-Mar-2002, 10:31 AM)
The writer states that these songs are being misrepresented on Highlander Radio because people of different ancestery may not know the full meaning behind the confederacy and are not aware of the ideals that these songs glorify. The writer states:

"While the music of the confederacy can be very colorful, it's playful melodies tend to mask the fact that it praises the fight to maintain the purchasing and ownership of human slaves in the southern states."

Then look at the songs as an examination of America's history. Assigning modern-day values to things in the past can be a slippery slope, and trodden with care. And personally, I think it's kind of silly, because the logic can be applied to anything.

- Songs about resistance and uprising should never be played because it condones killing. After all, killing is killing. So no Bob Marley, no Scottish or Irish independence songs, no African freedom fighter songs anywhere.

- Reruns of the TV show Hogan's Heroes should be taken off the air, because it does not treat the Holocaust with seriousness.

- We should strike the terms "Crusade" and "Crusader" from all usage, because of the English actions during the actual Crusades.

- Even politically correct computer users are getting into the act: no longer do they refer to "master" and "slave" computer components -- instead, it's "master" and "servant." What's next, "supervisor" and "subordinate-yet-well-paid-and-equally-valued employee?"

Historical events should not be interpreted through modern day values. Keep the music on Celtic Radio. I think we can all agree that the practice of slavery is a bad thing, and that no rational enlightened person still supports it. Enjoy the music for what it is -- music.


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