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Posted: 11-Dec-2003, 02:18 PM
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a stone chipped head? how cool is that wink.gif

mmh.. must be that image of that black bird taking a gingernut that makes me forgive you biggrin.gif


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The history was nice. Personally I will accept ANY excuse for a party!
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Party? Did someone say Party? Where? When?


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QUOTE (oldraven @ Dec 11 2003, 10:59 AM)


It's only a Christian holiday to Christians. To everyone else it's a time for giving, caring, and spending time with those you love. I fail to see the evil in that.

I If they want them to see it as a time of giving and warmth and love, then they sing songs, drink apple cider, give their old toys to the needy and drop a few bucks in the Salvation Army kettle.





Well said! Christmastime revolves around fond memories, rich tradations, and the child that we all become during the holidays. Ignore the commercial aspect of the holiday, and focus on the joy.

Please, someone get Hilander a Santa hat and a mug of wassel! You have to loosten up!

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Weirdest place for a decoration? My dad decorates his truck with lights, wreaths and bows. and the best part? One of those light up santas and snowman in the bed. It's great to see it driving down the road in Florida.


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QUOTE (JaneyMae @ Dec 11 2003, 02:02 PM)
Party? Did someone say Party? Where? When?

Your house, tomorrow night. I'll bring the Corona, some limes, and my two favorite kinds of Doritos, the Spicy Nacho and the new baked Nacho Cheese ones.


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QUOTE (Danann @ Dec 11 2003, 11:08 AM)
Here's the history of Christmas. It was Christianized, like many other holidays like Easter for example.

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The history of Christmas dates back over 4000 years. Many of our Christmas traditions were celebrated centuries before the Christ child was born. The 12 days of Christmas, the bright fires, the yule log, the giving of gifts, carnivals(parades) with floats, carolers who sing while going from house to house, the holiday feasts, and the church processions can all be traced back to the early Mesopotamians. Many of these traditions began with the Mesopotamian celebration of New Years. The Mesopotamians believed in many gods, and as their chief god - Marduk. Each year as winter arrived it was believed that Marduk would do battle with the monsters of chaos. To assist Marduk in his struggle the Mesopotamians held a festival for the New Year. This was Zagmuk, the New Year's festival that lasted for 12 days.

The Mesopotamian king would return to the temple of Marduk and swear his faithfulness to the god. The traditions called for the king to die at the end of the year and to return with Marduk to battle at his side.

To spare their king, the Mesopotamians used the idea of a "mock" king. A criminal was chosen and dressed in royal clothes. He was given all the respect and privileges of a real king. At the end of the celebration the "mock" king was stripped of the royal clothes and slain, sparing the life of the real king.

The Persians and the Babylonians celebrated a similar festival called the Sacaea. Part of that celebration included the exchanging of places, the slaves would become the masters and the masters were to obey.

Early Europeans believed in evil spirits, witches, ghosts and trolls. As the Winter Solstice approached, with its long cold nights and short days, many people feared the sun would not return. Special rituals and celebrations were held to welcome back the sun.

In Scandinavia during the winter months the sun would disappear for many days. After thirty-five days scouts would be sent to the mountain tops to look for the return of the sun. When the first light was seen the scouts would return with the good news. A great festival would be held, called the Yuletide, and a special feast would be served around a fire burning with the Yule log. Great bonfires would also be lit to celebrate the return of the sun. In some areas people would tie apples to branches of trees to remind themselves that spring and summer would return.

The ancient Greeks held a festival similar to that of the Zagmuk/Sacaea festivals to assist their god Kronos who would battle the god Zeus and his Titans.

The Roman's celebrated their god Saturn. Their festival was called Saturnalia which began the middle of December and ended January 1st. With cries of "Jo Saturnalia!" the celebration would include masquerades in the streets, big festive meals, visiting friends, and the exchange of good-luck gifts called Strenae (lucky fruits).

The Romans decked their halls with garlands of laurel and green trees lit with candles. Again the masters and slaves would exchange places.

"Jo Saturnalia!" was a fun and festive time for the Romans, but the Christians though it an abomination to honor the pagan god. The early Christians wanted to keep the birthday of their Christ child a solemn and religious holiday, not one of cheer and merriment as was the pagan Saturnalia.

But as Christianity spread they were alarmed by the continuing celebration of pagan customs and Saturnalia among their converts. At first the Church forbid this kind of celebration. But it was to no avail. Eventually it was decided that the celebration would be tamed and made into a celebration fit for the Christian Son of God.

Some legends claim that the Christian "Christmas" celebration was invented to compete against the pagan celebrations of December. The 25th was not only sacred to the Romans but also the Persians whose religion Mithraism was one of Christianity's main rivals at that time. The Church eventually was successful in taking the merriment, lights, and gifts from the Saturanilia festival and bringing them to the celebration of Christmas.

The exact day of the Christ child's birth has never been pinpointed. Traditions say that it has been celebrated since the year 98 AD. In 137 AD the Bishop of Rome ordered the birthday of the Christ Child celebrated as a solemn feast. In 350 AD another Bishop of Rome, Julius I, choose December 25th as the observance of Christmas.

Hence the phrase "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."
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