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myriad 
Posted: 06-Nov-2003, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (myriad @ Nov 4 2003, 08:49 PM)
We will never have Mayberry, because Mayberry never existed.  For example, here are a list of social issues... I want someone to try to guess the year and city that these occurred in.  I will give the answer in a couple of days but I hope to get some responses first. 

High Divorce Rates                        Kids with guns
Gangs                                          Horrible Economy
Drug & Alcohol problems                Assassinations
Bombing                                      Political Terrorists

However we can have better.  We can chose to do things for our neighborhoods to help. 

Well, nobody wanted to take a guess at this but the anwer was Chicago 1890. Sounds a lot like today. Some people use the things from this list to say that our world is getting worse. It is just becoming more publicized. Anyway, I will stop boring you all with this.

I would like to reiterate that we can help our communities even if we can't achieve mayberry. Have a great day!

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Posted: 06-Nov-2003, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE (oldraven @ Nov 6 2003, 01:19 PM)
Hey guys. This perfect world you're looking for exists. It's called Nova Scotia. wink.gif

OK, oldraven, We're all moving to Nova Scotia. Will it still be perfect then?


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Posted: 06-Nov-2003, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (RavenWing @ Nov 6 2003, 01:12 PM)
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Nov 5 2003, 06:19 AM)
Elspeth there is a little subdivision developed by the Disney Corp called Celebration.  It is right off of Hwy 192...It looks picture perfect..the houses look similar but each a little different in Victorian styling...you pay a fee each year and everyone gets their yard cut on the ssame day so everyone's yard looks the same...the grass is the same level in the whole neighborhood..
although it looks perfect, town square, community playground everything, there is no way the rest of the world is going to go away...
those that live there live with the same dangers that are in our world today...it's nice to wish for but unrealistic...
If you find it, call me and I'll move too!
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Here is where people differ...that sounds like a nightmare to me. I would hate for everything to be the same. blink.gif

I agree Raven Wing. It sounds like a Stepford town to me. I would be compelled to paint my house fuchia and puce and dig up my front lawn and plant pototoes.
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QUOTE (myriad @ Nov 6 2003, 03:52 PM)
QUOTE (myriad @ Nov 4 2003, 08:49 PM)
We will never have Mayberry, because Mayberry never existed. For example, here are a list of social issues... I want someone to try to guess the year and city that these occurred in. I will give the answer in a couple of days but I hope to get some responses first.

High Divorce Rates   Kids with guns
Gangs   Horrible Economy
Drug & Alcohol problems Assassinations
Bombing   Political Terrorists

However we can have better. We can chose to do things for our neighborhoods to help.

Well, nobody wanted to take a guess at this but the anwer was Chicago 1890. Sounds a lot like today. Some people use the things from this list to say that our world is getting worse. It is just becoming more publicized. Anyway, I will stop boring you all with this.

I would like to reiterate that we can help our communities even if we can't achieve mayberry. Have a great day!

Mary

Mary,

You aren't boring us, we just get easily sidetracked. rolleyes.gif

I didn't make a guess, but when I read it, I was thinking of the frontier towns of the 'old west'. Chicago certianly works too.

And you're right things do change, but the bad has always been about to some degree. My grandfather would tell me stories of his day. Helped me have a better perspective from a young age.

But mostly I agree with your last thought. We can all help our communities.

I want to believe things can be better than they are even if 'Mayberry' isn't achievable.

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Posted: 07-Nov-2003, 01:04 PM
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Thanks Elspeth, my stepdad is 70 now and has been a great souce of enlightenment for me. He was born during the great depression and was a police officer for 23 years so he has a jaded view about a lot of social issues. I am glad that people are out there striving for better communities. I'm not fighting alone
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Posted: 07-Nov-2003, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE (Elspeth @ Nov 6 2003, 07:59 PM)
OK, oldraven, We're all moving to Nova Scotia. Will it still be perfect then?

So far this board seems pretty Utopian, so I'd say yes. I'll get the fire stoked. Save me a seat at table.

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Posted: 07-Nov-2003, 09:09 PM
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This question reminds me of the movie "Pleasantville." The main boy (I can't remember his name) tried to keep Pleasantville... pleasant. But, it became inevitably impossible.


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Hey I'll move to NS anytime...I like the cold and men in kilts...pleasantville was too unreal for me...too good....to nice....too un-natural...and no ice cream there....too fattening.

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Sign me up for a little spot of land on new Scotland.....and I agree, it people caring about one another, we may not be able to fix everything but as long as we keep trying, who knows.
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QUOTE (Elspeth @ 03-Nov-2003, 04:10 PM)
OK, perhaps this is a lame question to be placed in philosophy, but I am curious.
Recently I have had crime brought right to my doorstep. In talking to the detective, he said "We don't live in Mayberry". I told him but I want to. He responded everyone wants to, but we don't.
OK, that begs for me the question
If we all want to live in Mayberry, they why don't we?
So, back to the question -
If we all want it, why don't we have it?
Is it a function of the majority allowing a few bad apples to dictate?
Or do we really not want it in anything but fantasy?
Can it be achieved?


O'siyo,
First of all, I have no desire to live in a fictional town/community called Mayberry wink.gif I have to live in reality and spending my time looking for a town that only existed in a 'sitcom' would be, in my opinion, a waste of precious time unsure.gif
Do I 'dream' of a world where there is respect for all? Of course, but again, this isn't part of my reality now days because, like it or not, the world is changing and I refuse to say, not in some ways for the better lookaround.gif
Unfortunately, it isn't just a few 'bad apples' that have made the world a little less desirable for those folks that wish to leave their doors unlocked to have that ability, without fear lookaround.gif Whenever there is change it is always going to 'bring about' more deviant behaviour and attitudes. Because of these qualities am I going to 'run' away from the town I am in to search for Mayberry? sad.gif Nah..I want to do what the folks in Mayberry I believe would've done..if deviants would have invaded Andy's home town, the town would've banded together and took care of the problem just as I see many town folks today doing hammer.gif
We can only change the 'things' that we have the absolute ability to change, laws/rules/social 'rights & wrongs'...Mayberry even had 'crime'.. I mean if they didn't and were un-touched by crime then what is up with the jail?
The one absolute I know I can never change is other people's behaviour, attitudes and beliefs...whenever these differences exist there is always going to be a less than perfect society gossip.gif
Sometimes I feel as if others are searching for Mayberry because they don't want to deal with reality, they are tired of the 'ugliness' and most of all they don't know how to fully accept change and the 'factors/characteristics' that go along with it rolleyes.gif
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Just finished all the posts to this topic. I certainly have no sure fire remedies of how to correct all the wrong in this world but I have noticed that people usually respond in kind to how they are treated. If they are treated with respect, they usually are respectful. If they are treated with kindness and honestly, then it is usually returned. So it goes with most attitudes.

The following has always made a lot of sense to me. It was written by Charles Swindoll...

The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life. Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company..a church..a home. The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change our past..we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude...I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it. And so it is with you..we are in charge of our Attitudes.

Just my opinion...... smile.gif


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