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Annabelle 
Posted: 05-Oct-2003, 03:23 PM
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Sorry Didn't see we had gone into another page...

I would hate to ask someone else to drop the tablets in the acid for me if I was in such a bad way...think of what you are asking of another human being to do for you...the feelings and guilt that person would be left with...no way!

I have my papers in order and I don't want to linger but I want to stay as long as the Lord wants me here. I want others to miss me and say she was a great gal and can you believe she had "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" , Also the theme to Darth Vader and If you want my body and you think I'm sexy, come on let me know" on the bagpipes of course, played at her funeral? I want there to be lots and lots of laughter. Oh yea, and little pigs in a blanket and Scotch and Makers Mark Bourbon are to be served.

I also don't want to give some one permission to get rid of me cause I'm in their way either...we had a case here in Ga where a wife wanted to get rid of her husband cause she was tired of taking care of him (he had cancer) she helped him poison himselfso she said. She said she did it out of concern for him and watching him die..which I understand the pain of standing around waiting for someone to die that you love with all of your heart. But come to find out she had been seeing 2 other men and felt tired of taking care of someone who was sick.

let's just leave that in the big guys hands. He has our days counted.
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I agree with annabelle. Where does one draw the line? If a young person was dying in pain, would they receive the same treatment as an old person? How much pain too much or too little? What if they could have lived longer than expected, or come out of their disease to live another ten years?
These are the questions that I don't think us as humans can answer and dictate.


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I also don't want to give some one permission to get rid of me cause I'm in their way either...we had a case here in Ga where a wife wanted to get rid of her husband cause she was tired of taking care of him (he had cancer) she helped him poison himselfso she said.    She said she did it out of concern for him and watching him die..which I understand the pain of standing around waiting for someone to die that you love with all of your heart. But come to find out she had been seeing 2 other men and felt tired of taking care of someone who was sick.


What happened to this woman's marriage vow---in sickness and health, til death do us part? How fast a person forgets. sad.gif

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In this disposable world we live in, it's amazing how disposable people can become when it doesn't fit their needs...
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In a world with a 65% divorce rate (I have also heard 50%, but you get the drift), anything is possible. Morality, Values, Oaths mean very little anymore. In a survey at a high school, many boys and girls checked off that there are certain instances where rape would be okay. What kind of world produces such warped morality? Be it Christian, Jewish, Wiccan, Islam - in no major religions is this behavior encouraged. It can only be assumed that it is the result (from my American perspective) of a culture of the current state of TV, baby boomer parents, radio and advertising.
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I have no doubt that the majority of people who support euthanasia do so from a caring perspective and that their wish is to stop pain and distress. The people who abuse it are in the minority.
However the questions still remain on the various shades of gray and who decides on the appropriateness of assisted suicide.


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Being a person that has experienced being told how short my life was going to be and dealing with sever pain. I could have ended my life and made everything, in my opinion, for my wife a lot easier for her and less costly. But I am a person who loves life. I know there are a lot of things that I can not do anymore (for now). I am not a quitter.

A year and a half has come and go since I was told it was suppose to end. A lot of good things has happened to me since, seeing my first Granddaughter and her first birthday which was a month ago and my first grandniece with her first birthday this past Saturday. Let alone getting to know some new friend from this site.

Euthanasia is not for me. I can not speak for anyone else, I am not in their shoes.

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Posted: 05-Oct-2003, 09:16 PM
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Richard Bercot I admire your courage and thirst for life....Keep it up and we will all keep you in our prayers.
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Annabelle and everyone else,

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On euthanasia, I support it only when it is a conscious decision by the person. If there is anything to be "punished" for in their afterlife (which I don't believe there is), I will let them deal wth it.


I am bipolar, and have had to deal with being suicidal and I am still in support of this. The thing is to make sure they are makeing a conscious rational decision, and not one made in haste or in a hysterical state.


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Posted: 06-Oct-2003, 01:48 PM
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I support euthanasia ! We have more compassion for our animals then we do our human loved ones! If a person is terminal and in great pain or the quality of life will not be much more then a vegatable and has made out a living will or expressed their wishes in some other way then let them go, after all it is their life and no one elses. They know what they can endure and can not! I do not support it for an easy way out of a curable disease or the fast track to gaining an inheratance.


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QUOTE (Shadows @ Oct 6 2003, 03:48 PM)
I support euthanasia ! We have more compassion for our animals then we do our human loved ones! If a person is terminal and in great pain or the quality of life will not be much more then a vegatable and has made out a living will or expressed their wishes in some other way then let them go, after all it is their life and no one elses. They know what they can endure and can not! I do not support it for an easy way out of a curable disease or the fast track to gaining an inheratance.

You took the words right out of me mouth. Well, said!

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Having been an oncology nurse for 20 years and having seen the agony some people have had to endure, I have to say I am in favor of euthanasia. However, I agree with everyone else...It needs to be a well reasoned out informed decision.
Prehaps with the kind of psychlogical counciling that live organ donors get? Anouther factor is that pain control methods are so much better now than they used to be, which affects quality of life issues. I have never had a patient ask me to actively help them die. I'm not sure how I would deal with it if it happened.


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QUOTE (3Ravens @ Oct 6 2003, 04:21 PM)
Having been an oncology nurse for 20 years and having seen the agony some people have had to endure, I have to say I am in favor of euthanasia. However, I agree with everyone else...It needs to be a well reasoned out informed decision.
Prehaps with the kind of psychlogical counciling that live organ donors get? Anouther factor is that pain control methods are so much better now than they used to be, which affects quality of life issues. I have never had a patient ask me to actively help them die. I'm not sure how I would deal with it if it happened.

Having experienced what you have over 20 years certainly gives you more insite then most. I hope you never have to deal with a patient that asks you for relief from their suffering, that would be a very hard decission for a person to make! But if it is asked you should be ready to comply if the person is of sound mind or has made previous arrangments. As a nurse it would not be your final dicission, but rather up to the Dr. and family if the person had not made a living will. Your part in the final action would be determined by that and that alone. I feel that life is a personal thing and to help end one at request should be a personal thing also.

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