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Posted: 04-Sep-2009, 11:23 AM
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Prelude to 2012: how did Democrats let Sarah Palin destroy health care reform with Facebook?

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It’s not even 2012, and Sarah Palin, the “lightweight” Caribou Barbie stupid dumb right-wing inexperienced unqualified unaccomplished religious wacko birther enabling nut that came from Wasilla, has already defeated President Obama.

She has trounced Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

She has trumped MoveOn, ACORN, and Obama’s mass army of volunteers at Organizing for America.

She has out-demagogued the three stooges of MSNBC Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, and Rachel Maddow.

Oh, and she did it with Facebook notes.

Read that again: she did it with Facebook notes.


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Posted: 04-Sep-2009, 11:30 AM
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stevenpd;

Even though I'm an outsider I have to comment;

If Palin is ever elected President you yanks deserve what you get and pray the Fates will help you for no-one else will.



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QUOTE (Camac @ 04-Sep-2009, 12:30 PM)
stevenpd;

Even though I'm an outsider I have to comment;

If Palin is ever elected President you yanks deserve what you get and pray the Fates will help you for no-one else will.



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Unfortunately she is as qualified as obama now.

Health care was destroyed by obama and his administration's arrogance. The citizens of this country rose up in outrage and put the plan to it's demise. Typically of this administration, they can not even admit they screwed up!!

I suspect that, under the right circumstances, another impeachment could be in the future.

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Unfortunately she is as qualified as obama now.



Considering how he's been handling EVERYTHING so far, I'd say she was as qualified as he was from the beginning.
I stand by my statement on election night, "America has cut their own throat."


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I was giving obama that he might have learned something since taking office and NOW they are equal. There was not all that much difference to start with.

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QUOTE (Camac @ 04-Sep-2009, 11:30 AM)
stevenpd;

Even though I'm an outsider I have to comment;

If Palin is ever elected President you yanks deserve what you get and pray the Fates will help you for no-one else will.



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Could you please be more specific Camac?


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SCShamrock;

I could be more specific but it might be offensive to some.




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You can not offend me with any info about politicians!!

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Before I get into the subject let me remind everyone that the only sources I have are the news papers and TV. I am not well versed on the ins and outs of American Politics and to be honest at times they dumbfound me.

Sarah Palin the ex-govenor of Alaska in my opinion to put it politely a BIMBO she is proof positive that in some women ( thankfully a very small minority) that the size of the boobs is in direct opposition to the intellectual capability,or more bluntly, the bigger the jugs the dumber the bearer. Here is a person who was govenor of the only state with two international borders and about all she knows about them is their general location and only because I think someone told her where the sun comes up is Canada and where it sets is Russia. If she ever wins the Republican nomination for President and if some how manages to get elected she will be a PUPPET PRESIDENT with the Ultra Conservative Neo- Theocratic puppet masters pulling the strings. There are, again in my opinion, Chimpanzees and Great Apes with a higher IQ than she possess. She is everything I despise in a woman. Look at me aren't I beautiful and if I take my shoes off I can count to 20. I have never been able to abide dumb women. That may sound sexist but it isn't I just like the women I associate with to be intelligent. I did not fall in love with and marry my ex for her beauty, although she is an attractive women. It was her intelligence that won me over. There is a quotation that states "the strength of mankind is in it's women' who ever said it mercifully never encountered Ms. Palin or he would have kept his mouth shut.

Well that's about it for now there is more I could say but I am to much of a gentleman to get that viscous. If she ever gets to be President I'll get religion and believe in the Christian God.


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Your description of Palin, minus her physical attributes pretty much describes obama also. I did not like Palin. All this time were professional political parasites and a severe detriment to the country.

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Is Sarah Palin a force to be reckoned with in 2012?

Only if the party grooms her for 4 years and then too if she makes no verbal errors. I suspect she is not going to be the one who runs the show if she wins.

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Patch;

As I said if she ever won she would be a Puppet with the powers that be pulling the strings. She is dangerous in her ignorance.


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Agreed, but then you have also described obama. It is now evident that he is a puppet and from the start was equally ignorant. Eloquence does not equal intelligence and common sense.

Bush and Clinton may have turned the engine that is the economy in the direction of mayhem but obama is now at the wheel careening in that direction at break neck speed.

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Camac,

Thanks for your reply. I do understand your position based on what the media has focused on. And yes, she does appear to have limited knowledge of subjects in which many people expect presidents to be experts. However, does academic knowledge alone fulfill the requirement of the voters? I think not. That is why presidents have advisors. Many heads are better than one. What Palin has, which has been sorely missing in Washington for a very long time, is a tenacity to do what is, in the conservative mindset, the right things regardless of how vocal her opposition is. There was a recent poll...Zogby, I think...that states, statistically, all 50 US states are conservative. I find that a little hard to believe; however, the liberals in our country are quite boisterous. So, while conservatism may not be as openly apparent is liberalism, I do believe it is an understated ideology in the country. Assuming that is the case, then a Palin is exactly what those of us who think conservatively need. But ask yourself: why has she been viciously attacked from the day she first made her appearance? I believe the reasons are many, but can be summated to two: looks and attitude. Yeah, she is a fine looking woman. She is the kind of woman who, when walking into a room, causes other women to shrink in their chairs and immediately criticize her. They do not say things like "oh wow, how beautiful she is." No, they save that for Ms. America contestants or their own daughters. Instead, it's more like "look at that stupid hairdo...her hairdresser must be blind and paralyzed." As for attitude...well how dare she make accusations of those on the left of being socialists when they are pushing a socialist agenda? (I know, most Canadians do not understand our disdain for socialism. We don't want it, so try to accept that.) When she boldly points out problems within her own party it only amplifies her lack of popularity with the elites. Also, she refuses to cow-tow to the media, and will gladly expose them as cohorts of the left. And this is precisely why the voters love her...because she doesn't care about schmoozing with her colleagues or anyone else. For those of us who are sick and tired of the "I'll rub your back if you rub mine" mentality in our leadership, Palin is a breath of fresh air. We don't want harmony in Washington when it results in things which counter our most treasured prosperity, liberty, and freedom. Current circumstances show what happens when a "new tone" visits Washington. Obama was right...we needed change. However, the change he has brought so far is NOT the type of change we need. We need to change back to what made our country great. I think Palin could help take us there. Does that mean I think she is the smartest person out there? No. But she's not stupid either. Bush wasn't stupid, and neither is Obama, nor was Clinton. And we don't need Einstein in the top seat. We need someone with the intestinal fortitude to stand up and say "this aint right." I think Palin would do that.
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SC Shamrock;
You stated that most Canadians do not understand your disdain for socialism. Well I think we do. We do not like out and out socialism ourselves. We have a Parliamentary Government which includes limited social safety nets, ie. Health Care. The Canada Health Act is a Federal Act governing Health Care across the country but it is administered by each Provence and taylored by the Provence to its needs. Ottawa just supplies the money and oversight. The oldest Political Party in Canada is the Progressive Consevative Party of Canada so in essence our birth had a Conservative mid-wife. That party in 2000 joined with the Reform Party of Canada (founded in Alberta) and became the Conservative Party of Canada which is definetely more akin to your Republican Party. As to Einsteins as leaders, well we had one, or close to one, he was a good Prime Minister but an arrogant S.O.B. who had difficulty relating to the common man. He also got relected 3 times. Perhaps he is best remembered by a photo of him giving the "BIRD" to a group of reporters. Cracked everyone up. He ran the country his way and to Hell with the powers that be. He even took on the US more than once and was totally detested by Nixon who called him an "F----g S.OB. He was a Liberal and French Canadian. His name was Pierre Elliot Trudeau.

The point I would like to make from my view is that Palin is and will be manipulated by the Ultra-Conservative and Power Brokers in your country. She is a Poster Girl for what most of the world sees that is wrong with America. Possibly you don't care what the rest of the world thinks but the HayDay of Isolationism is long gone and the U.S. has to pay attention too and understand the world around them. As a well known Canadian Comedian said "The U.S. is our friend, trading partner and ally.. but at times we would like to give you a big smack. Just to get your attention. You said you needed to change back to what made your country great, Well we all know that was rampant Capitalism and as recent History has shown it almost ruined you. I guess the big difference is we do not fear our Government ( might not like them at times) and we expect the people we elect to help when and if the need arises. That's part of what we pay them for.


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