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Posted: 28-Apr-2009, 12:04 PM
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Oh, that's not to say they aren't welcome to become known as part of The Maritimes. I was actually quite surprised when I found that out, because I grew up thinking they were.


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OLDRAVEN;

Most people do think of NFLD as part of the Maritimes. I know I forget at times and think so. Pehaps if NFLD had joined during Confederation they would have been included in the Maritimes but they chose to remain a Brit Colony. Any way the main thing is they are part of Canada now and it just wouldn't be the same country without them.



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QUOTE (Leelee @ 18-Apr-2009, 10:50 AM)
Alright now...who donned their red proudly yesterday????


1. What Province is most likely to support the decriminalization of marijuana?



Quebec



i wear red every friday...when we are back home (n.cool.gif every place we go in fredericton or oromocto ( cfb gagetown is right there ) all you see is red on people working in the stores as well as students and regular joe-smoe on the streets....yellow ribbons on so many trees as well

and of course quebec would want to decriminalize....we're quebec!!! wink.gif


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In an earlier post I mentioned that the American Civil War hastened Canadian Confederation and the Birth of our Nation. At the time of the U.S. Civil War the general attitude in Canada was anti-North with bitterness from the American Invasions during the War of 1812 forming a good part of this attitude. It is true though that a few hundred Canadians fought in the Union Army and also in the Confederate Army. In 1864 Confederates raided across the Quebec-Vermont border attacking the town of St. Albans, Vermont, hoping to entice an American Invasion, and draw Great Britain into the war on the Confederate side. In that it failed but this raid along with the Fenian Raids after the War hastened the uniting of the Canadian Colonies. It also convinced Sir John A. MacDonald (First P.M.) that individual states within the American Union had far to much power and he was determined that the same not happen in Canada and that our Constitution (B.N.A {British North America Act} ) insure that we had a strong Federal Govenment. This again helped highlight the differences between our two systems. It has also caused some difficulties over the years but all in all has worked fairly well.


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Time for my two cents....

When I was working at the House of Commons in Ottawa, I spent many lunch hours in the Library of Parliament, finding dates for a 'Celtic' historic timeline which some day I will finish and have on my website. What always stuck out into my mind were the misadventures of the Fenian brotherhood and their 'raids' into Canada. A few dates:

March 17, 1858 -Republican organization known as the “Fenians” was founded in New York. Named by John O’Mahony in honour of the ancient Fianna, they were dedicated to secure the independence of Ireland, to establish an Irish Republic and to damaging British interests in all parts of the world.

June 1, 1866 - Fenians raid Niagara in two rented tugs and some canal boats. As nobody was awake, they had to knock on doors to get people up. They wanted Canadians to join them and be liberated from the "tyranny of Britain". The good folk of Fort Erie couldn't see things that way, but they wanted to be nice to the strangely dressed men carrying green flags with harps and gold crowns on them. They fed them cooked ham, tea and coffee.

May 20, 1870 - U.S. Fenians make unsuccessful raids into Ontario.

May 25, 1870 - Fenians led by John O’Neill staged a raid at Eccles Hill, Quebec in the Eastern Townships

Oct 5, 1871 - Unsuccessful Fenian raid led by William B. O’Donoghue at Pembina in Manitoba. They did manage to capture the Hudson’s Bay outpost but this was somewhat of a hollow victory as it was unoccupied at the time. American troops were soon on the scene to escort the leader and his men back to the United States.



Fenian Battle Song:
We are a Fenian brotherhood, skilled in the arts of war.
And we’re going to fight for Ireland, the land that we adore;
Many battles have we won, along with the boys in blue,
And we’ll go to capture Canada, for we’ve nothing else to do!


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QUOTE (Keltic @ 30-Apr-2009, 11:02 AM)
Time for my two cents....

When I was working at the House of Commons in Ottawa, I spent many lunch hours in the Library of Parliament, finding dates for a 'Celtic' historic timeline which some day I will finish and have on my website. What always stuck out into my mind were the misadventures of the Fenian brotherhood and their 'raids' into Canada. A few dates:

March 17, 1858 -Republican organization known as the “Fenians” was founded in New York. Named by John O’Mahony in honour of the ancient Fianna, they were dedicated to secure the independence of Ireland, to establish an Irish Republic and to damaging British interests in all parts of the world.

June 1, 1866 - Fenians raid Niagara in two rented tugs and some canal boats. As nobody was awake, they had to knock on doors to get people up. They wanted Canadians to join them and be liberated from the "tyranny of Britain". The good folk of Fort Erie couldn't see things that way, but they wanted to be nice to the strangely dressed men carrying green flags with harps and gold crowns on them. They fed them cooked ham, tea and coffee.

May 20, 1870 - U.S. Fenians make unsuccessful raids into Ontario.

May 25, 1870 - Fenians led by John O’Neill staged a raid at Eccles Hill, Quebec in the Eastern Townships

Oct 5, 1871 - Unsuccessful Fenian raid led by William B. O’Donoghue at Pembina in Manitoba. They did manage to capture the Hudson’s Bay outpost but this was somewhat of a hollow victory as it was unoccupied at the time. American troops were soon on the scene to escort the leader and his men back to the United States.



Fenian Battle Song:
We are a Fenian brotherhood, skilled in the arts of war.
And we’re going to fight for Ireland, the land that we adore;
Many battles have we won, along with the boys in blue,
And we’ll go to capture Canada, for we’ve nothing else to do!

Thanks for sharing this interesting and educative bits of history Keltic.

I will start some research on that for sure...as I think it's something that was missing in our history classes in school...at least in french schools!!! wink.gif


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Some more of who we are:

After the defeat of Custer at the Little Big Horn in June 1876 the Sioux started migrating North into Canada to escape the pursuing American Forces. In November 1876 Supt. Walsh of the North West Mounted Police ( now the R.C.M.P.)
was informed by scouts that a large band of Sioux had camped around Fort Walsh in the Cyprus Hills of Saskatchewan. Setting out with 12 Constables, Supt. Walsh arrived at Fort Walsh to discover a band of 2,000 Sioux under Dark Moon were indeed camped there. He immediately informed Dark Moon that they could remain only if they obeyed Canadian Law. There was to be no raiding into the United States nor any inter-tribal warfare as the Sioux were the blood enemy of many Canadian Tribes. This took some brass, 13 policemen confronted 2000 Sioux who had just 4 months prior defeated "Yellow Hair" Custer. Soon two other bands joined Dark Moon the last led by Sitting Bull the acknowledged leader of the Sioux Resistance. Within two years, though, the Sioux were forced to return to the U.S. when the Government in Ottawa refused to give them reserves to live on or to continue supplying food. The threat of starvation forced the Sioux to return to the U.S. and surrender to the Army. Because of this shabby treatment by Ottawa Supt. Walsh resigned in protest. Not all Sioux returned and to-day there are many descendents of these proud First Nations People living in Canada much to our betterment.


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I'm not sure if this was posted elsewhere in CR, but I am posting this here.
Once in a while someone does a nice job of describing a Canadian, this time it was an Australian dentist.

An Australian Definition of a Canadian



In case anyone asks you who a Canadian is . . .

You probably missed it in the local news, but there was a report that someone in Pakistan had advertised in a newspaper an offer of a reward to anyone who killed a Canadian - any Canadian.

An Australian dentist wrote the following editorial to help define what a Canadian is, so they would know one when they found one.

A Canadian can be English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. A Canadian can be Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, Arab, Pakistani or Afghan.

A Canadian may also be a Cree, Métis, Mohawk, Blackfoot, Sioux, or one of the many other tribes known as native Canadians. A Canadian's religious beliefs range from Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu or none. In fact, there are more Muslims in Canada than in Afghanistan. The key difference is that in Canada they are free to worship as each of them chooses. Whether they have a religion or no religion, each Canadian ultimately answers only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God.

A Canadian lives in one of the most prosperous lands in the history of the world. The root of that prosperity can be found in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms which recognize the right of each person to the pursuit of happiness.

A Canadian is generous and Canadians have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return. Canadians welcome the best of everything, the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best services and the best minds.

But they also welcome the least - the oppressed, the outcast and the rejected.

These are the people who built Canada. You can try to kill a Canadian if you must as other blood-thirsty tyrants in the world have tried but in doing so you could just be killing a relative or a neighbour. This is because Canadians are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, can be a Canadian.

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Leelee;

I read that somewhere before and it is as good a description as you will get of we Canadians. ( The Gods created the World and saw that it lacked something. So in their infinite wisdom they Created Canada.)


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The debate over Canada's official Motto is about to flare up again. At present the motto is "A Mari Usque Ad Mare, (From Sea to Sea)" in French "D'un ocean a l'autre". The new motto proposed is in my opinion better befitting of our Nation, "Ad Mari Usque Ad Maria" (From Sea to Sea to Sea)" in French "D'un ocean aux autres". Canada has the longest coast line in the world and our motto should reflect that fact. From the Atlantic to the Pacific to the Arctic. I urge all my fellow Canadians to back this proposed change. After all it is the 21st Century not the 19th.




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In Canada, we celebrate the Victoria Day Long Weekend. Here is a bit of History about Victoria Day and why we celebrate it.

Victoria Day


In Canada, the celebration of Victoria Day occurs every year on Monday, prior to May 25th. It is the official celebration in Canada of the birthdays of Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth II. Victoria Day was established as a holiday in Canada West (Now Ontario) in 1845, and became a national holiday in 1901. Before Victoria Day became a national Holiday, people had celebrated Empire Day, beginning in the 1890s as Victoria approached her Diamond Jubilee in 1897.

Victoria, Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and empress of India was born on 24 May 1819. She ascended the throne after the death of her uncle George IV in 1837 when she was only 18. She ruled until her death in 1901 when her son Edward the VII became king of England.

Sovereign's Birthday


The Sovereign's birthday has been celebrated in Canada since the reign of Queen Victoria (1837-1901). May 24, Queen Victoria's birthday, was declared a holiday by the Legislature of the Province of Canada in 1845.

After Confederation, the Queen's birthday was celebrated every year on May 24 unless that date was a Sunday, in which case a proclamation was issued providing for the celebration on May 25.

After the death of Queen Victoria in 1901, an Act was passed by the Parliament of Canada establishing a legal holiday on May 24 in each year (or May 25 if May 24 fell on a Sunday) under the name Victoria Day.

The birthday of King Edward VII, who was born on November 9, was by yearly proclamation during his reign (1901-1910) celebrated on Victoria Day.

It was not an innovation to celebrate the birthday of the reigning sovereign on the anniversary of the birth of a predecessor. In Great Britain, the birthdays of George IV (1820-1830) and William IV (1830-1837) were celebrated on June 4, birthday of George III (1760-1820).

The birthday of King George V, who reigned from 1910 to 1935, was celebrated on the actual date, June 3 or, when that was a Sunday, by proclamation on June 4.

The one birthday of King Edward VIII, who reigned in 1936, was also celebrated on the actual date, June 23.

King George VI's birthday, which fell on December 14, was officially celebrated in the United Kingdom on a Thursday early in June. Up to 1947 Canada proclaimed the same day but in 1948 and further years settled on the Monday of the week in which the United Kingdom celebration took place. George VI reigned from 1936 to 1952.

The first birthday of Queen Elizabeth II, in 1952, was also celebrated in June.

Meanwhile, Canada continued to observe Victoria Day. An amendment to the Statutes of Canada in 1952 established the celebration of Victoria Day on the Monday preceding May 25.

From 1953 to 1956, the Queen's birthday was celebrated in Canada on Victoria Day, by proclamation of the Governor General, with Her Majesty's approval. In 1957, Victoria Day was permanently appointed as the Queen's birthday in Canada. In the United Kingdom, the Queen's birthday is celebrated in June.

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Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg, was born in Kensington Palace in London on May 24th, 1819, the daughter of Prince Edward, Duke of Kent, a son of King George III.

Due to the fact that the King was insane, George, the older brother of Edward served as the country's regent. The Prince Regent and his estranged wife had just one child, Princess Charlotte of Wales. After Charlotte's death in 1817, the people began to worry about the royal succession. Although the king had twelve living children, none of them had offspring who were eligible to inherit the throne.

After pressure from the Parliament and the public, Edward married the German Princess, Victoire of Saxe-Coburg, age 31. On May 24, 1819 the Duchess of Kent gave birth to a daughter. She was christened Alexandrina Victoria.

She ascended the throne upon the death of William IV. Barely eighteen, she refused any further influence from her domineering mother and ruled in her own stead. Popular respect for the Crown was at low point at her coronation, but the modest and straightforward young Queen won the hearts of her subjects. She wished to be informed of political matters, although she had no direct input in policy decisions. The Reform Act of 1832 had set the standard of legislative authority residing in the House of Lords, with executive authority resting within a cabinet formed of members of the House of Commons; the monarch was essentially removed from the loop. She respected and worked well with Lord Melbourne, Prime Minister in the early years of her reign, and England grew both socially and economically.

Victoria's long reign witnessed an evolution in English politics and the expansion of the British Empire, which included Canada, Australia, India, New Zealand, and large parts of Africa, as well as political and social reforms on the continent. France had known two dynasties and embraced Republicanism, Spain had seen three monarchs and both Italy and Germany had united their separate principalities into national coalitions. Even in her dotage, she maintained a youthful energy and optimism that infected the English population as a whole.

Immediately after becoming Queen, Victoria began regular meetings with William Lamb, 2nd Viscount Melbourne, the British prime minister at the time. The two grew very close, and Melbourne taught Victoria how the British government worked on a day-to-day basis.

In her later years, she almost became the symbol of the British Empire. Both the Golden (1887) and the Diamond (1897) Jubilees, held to celebrate the 50th and 60th anniversaries of the queen's accession, were marked with great displays and public ceremonies. On both occasions, Colonial Conferences attended by the Prime Ministers of the self-governing colonies were held.

Despite her advanced age, Victoria continued her duties to the end - including an official visit to Dublin in 1900. The Boer War in South Africa overshadowed the end of her reign. As in the Crimean War nearly half a century earlier, Victoria reviewed her troops and visited hospitals; she remained undaunted by British reverses during the campaign: 'We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat; they do not exist.'

Victoria died at Osborne House on the Isle of Wight, on 22 January 1901 after a reign which lasted almost 64 years, the longest in British history. She was buried at Windsor beside Prince Albert, in the Frogmore Royal Mausoleum, which she had built for their final resting place. Above the Mausoleum door are inscribed Victoria's words: 'farewell best beloved, here at last I shall rest with thee, with thee in Christ I shall rise again'.

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Melbourne, William Lamb, 2nd Viscount (1779-1848), English statesman, who was prime minister during the early years of Queen Victoria's reign and initiated her in the ways of statecraft.
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Yeah Vickie was a tough old bird. Perhaps the best Monarch Britain has had.



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Yesterday was of course Victoria Day after Queen Vivtoria who was Monarch when Canada became an independent Dominion within the Empire. It is a holiday celebrated in every province save Quebec. There it is called Dollard Day after Adam Dollard Hero of New France. In 1660 two groups of Iriquois totaling 900 warriors were report moving to join up on an assault on Montreal, Quebec City, and Trois Rivieres. Dollard suggested to the Govenor of New France that he gather a group of volunteers and delay the Iroquois at Long Sault, just south of Ottawa on
the Ottawa River. In May Dollard along with 22 young Quebecois, 40 Huron under Chief Anahotaha, and 4 Algonquins took up position at an old abandonned stockade and waited for the Iroquois. After two days they spotted two Iroquois canoes and ambushed them. One Iroquois escaped and soon 40 to 50 enemy canoes arrived and immediately attacked Dollard and his men. Pouring volley after volley into the enemy they finally beat the Iroquois off after three attacks. After these attacks the Iroquois waited for the arrival of 500 re-enforcements. Dollard and his people now faced 700 Iroquois Warriors . Over the next three days the Iroquois prepared for battle harrassing the French all the time and causing the 40 Huron to dessert leaving only Anahotaha. On the fourth day the Iroquois attacked and Dollard attempted to throw a homemade bomb over the walls but it hit the top of the stockade and fell back amongst the defenders. In the resulting confusion the Iroquois broke through the defences and Dollard and his fellows were slaughtered. The determined fight that the French put up caused the Iroquois to rethink their attack and withdraw back to their own territory. The stand by Dollard and his men at Long Sault can be compared to the stand taken at the Alamo and Dollard and Anahotaha are our Crocket and Bowie.


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U.S. Homeland Secretary Napolitano wanted to make it clear on Wednesday that she knows she misspoke when she erroneously said that the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorists entered the United States through Canada.

Napolitano, on her first trip to Canada since joining the Presidents cabinet in January, was discussing security issues with Canadian Minister of Public Safety Peter Van Loan.

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Last night Bush and Clinton were up here in Toronto speaking together at a Businessmen's Dinner at $2000.00 per ticket. The usual protesters against Bush were out calling him a "War Criminal" (Tempest in a TeaPot). Bothe Bush and Clinton were taken unawares by the fact that both Canadians and Americans wishing to cross our mutual border need passports as of 1 June. So if any Americans are comming to Canada you will need your passport, not to enter Canada but to get back home.

As for anyone who is aware of it the you know what has hit the fan again over the annual Seal Hunt, what with the E.U banning all seal products and the Animal Rights people calling us Neanderthals. First off they should get their facts straight. The killing of White Coats (seal pups) was banned 30 years ago and a more humane method of killing has been introduced. Personally I am against most forms of hunting but in this case the cull is to keep the seal population under control and to help with the survival of fish stocks. Seals eat a lot of Fish especially Cod which is on the verge of extinction. Now everyone is all worked up over the fact that our Govenor General Michealle Jean attended a Traditional Inuit Feast and helped skin a seal and she ate a piece of raw seal heart. What with the carry on one would think she was a Cannibal. In Inuit culture to have refused to partake would have been a great insult and as she is the Queens Representative it would have been more so. Again the Animal Rights People are screaming bloody murder uses phrases like "Blood Lust", "Gross and Disgusting" and "Savage". My Dad worked with the Inuit back in the 50s and 60s and as he said if you were offered food or anything by them (including the wife) you had better not refuse or you were liable to get a Harpoon up the backside. The Inuit of Nunavut own and control an area the size of Western Europe and the Inuit Rangers patrol and show the Flag for Canada in the Eastern Arctic. They chased the Danes off Hull Island last year when they tried to claim it as theirs. Something to do with Cultural Memory of messing with the Vikings before.


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