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Posted: 12-Mar-2009, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (Camac @ 12-Mar-2009, 02:59 PM)
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Many of the Templars survived the puging of their Order. Some sought refuge in Portugal and renamed the Order the Knights of Christ. Others are said to have fled to Scotland where they were welcomed by the Bruce and fought with him at Bannockburn aiding in the defeat of the English. There are even legends of the Templars coming to North America. This is not beyond the realm of possibility as the Templars had vast fleets at their command plus ports on the Atlantic from which to launch them. The Vikings were in Newfoundland 500 years before Columbus sailed why not others.



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I would take that with a pinch of salt camac.

maybe the pyramids were built by martians.

Respectfully, it all sounds like legend and myth to me.
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QUOTE (Camac @ 12-Mar-2009, 02:59 PM)
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Many of the Templars survived the puging of their Order. Some sought refuge in Portugal and renamed the Order the Knights of Christ. Others are said to have fled to Scotland where they were welcomed by the Bruce and fought with him at Bannockburn aiding in the defeat of the English. There are even legends of the Templars coming to North America. This is not beyond the realm of possibility as the Templars had vast fleets at their command plus ports on the Atlantic from which to launch them. The Vikings were in Newfoundland 500 years before Columbus sailed why not others.



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The town that I grew up in had what we always called the KC'S and now that I have read this thats what was. I'll make some call tonight and see if it's still there and see if I can find out some information for you. Shouldn't be to hard to find out something. There was 7 bars on that one street when I was growing up there,it was a Polish town called Bronson.


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Posted: 12-Mar-2009, 03:30 PM
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Harlot;

The KCs are usually the Knights of Columbus. Not the Knights of Christ.


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Be that as it may but one point that is not legend or myth is that the Vikings were in Newfoundland at a place called L'Anse aux Meadows 500 years before Columbus. It is entirely within the realm of possibility that Templars did escape and go underground. Agreed some is ledgend or myth but the thing is most legends have a base of actuallity.


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QUOTE (Camac @ 12-Mar-2009, 06:09 PM)
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Be that as it may but one point that is not legend or myth is that the Vikings were in Newfoundland at a place called L'Anse aux Meadows 500 years before Columbus. It is entirely within the realm of possibility that Templars did escape and go underground. Agreed some is ledgend or myth but the thing is most legends have a base of actuallity.


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I am aware of the vikings enterin north america via an ice formation across to iceland, however there is almost zero possability of the nights templer surviving up to the 15th century. And definitely not in the 19th century. I think history should be interprated through evidence, not the balance of probabilities or hypothesis

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I agree history should be judged by facts and evidence but legend sometimes has a stange way of being proved right. The story of the Vikings coming to the New World were legends until the 1960's when their settlement was found at L'Anse aux Meadows on the North West shore of Newfoundland and BTW they sailed here from Greenland not by an ice bridge or connection to Iceland. The legend of King Arthur is now firmly believed to be based on an actual person. As I said not all the Templars were eradicated in the purge and who knows what happened to them. Whether they made it to the New World I don't know as there is scant evidence. Legend says a group of Irish monks led by Brendan made it to North America and the possibility was proven when an adventurer sailed from Ireland to NFLD in a sheep skin and wood boat. Stranger things have happened.


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QUOTE (Camac @ 12-Mar-2009, 10:26 PM)
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I agree history should be judged by facts and evidence but legend sometimes has a stange way of being proved right. The story of the Vikings coming to the New World were legends until the 1960's when their settlement was found at L'Anse aux Meadows on the North West shore of Newfoundland and BTW they sailed here from Greenland not by an ice bridge or connection to Iceland. The legend of King Arthur is now firmly believed to be based on an actual person. As I said not all the Templars were eradicated in the purge and who knows what happened to them. Whether they made it to the New World I don't know as there is scant evidence. Legend says a group of Irish monks led by Brendan made it to North America and the possibility was proven when an adventurer sailed from Ireland to NFLD in a sheep skin and wood boat. Stranger things have happened.


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yes I understand what you are saying. And I think we both agree that legends stay as legends until they are proven.

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Posted: 13-Mar-2009, 12:43 PM
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I found a few sites that might help.
http://www.templarhistory.com/history.html
http://www.tylwythteg.com/templar.html
http://www.middle-ages.org.uk/knights-templar.htm

" haven't a clue who the men
named on them are"

What are the names? Have you tried searching for the names themselves? I think your answers lie in the history written and maybe even in the legends not written. Before 1700 or so much of the history was not written. It is mostly an oral history, handed down through the generations. The bards and storytellers are the historians. Yes, much may be legend but there is much truth to be found in the legends.
Look at the early kings or even Sir William Wallace (Gaurdian of Scotland). How nuch is really known of them and how much is what legends say.
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Donahji;

From what I have read perhaps your best bet to trace these swords and the persons named is the Free Masons (York Rite) but then again they might not be willing to divulge any information.



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QUOTE (RebeccaAnn @ 13-Mar-2009, 10:43 AM)

" haven't a clue who the men
named on them are"

What are the names? Have you tried searching for the names themselves?  RebeccaAnn

RebeccaAnn& Camac,

First let me thank you for the information. I am in the process of following
up on the websites you provided.

The names of the swords are; William Roeser and Herold F. Wood.

I have been at this almost a year and searched in every area I or anyone
else could think of. I have even had my cousins in Scotland and Ireland
looking for them in our family tree. No luck.

I have contacted the Fraternal Order of Templar's, who are world wide.
They are searching there members files and arcives. The Free Masons
have been very helpful as my parent's were members, I have their rings.

I do have faith that someone will find that clue for me that will link up these
two men so I can have the swords mounted with a plaque containing the info.
connecting them to our family and that will let their legacy live on.


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Well here I am back after following all the links and info everyone was kind
enough to supply me. All has been a dead end.

Now being the tenacious person I am I decided to swing away from the
internet and call some of the phone numbers I found. Well to make a
long story short, I opened a real can of worms.

Some old dude told me I should not be in possession of such things. He said
they should be turned over to the order. And would not help me. Of course
I, in my own sweet way, told him what he could do to himself.

Now the others were very cagey. They ask if they could fly in and have a
look at them, "To authenticate". WHAT!! Fly in. A great big NO to that one.

I have them in a deposit safe and there they will stay, for now anyway.
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Donajhi:

I still say the best way to trace a Knight Templar is with paper and pencil or even charcoal. rolleyes.gif


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Have you tried writing to the person who sent them to you and asking him? He would at lest know where he got them and that might give you a clue of where to search. I still think your answer lies in the history and maybe even the legends of the lands where the knights templer were. I know from my own family that much of our early history was handed down through the generations and much of it to this day is not written.
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QUOTE (Camac @ 31-Mar-2009, 04:43 PM)
Donajhi:

I still say the best way to trace a Knight Templar is with paper and pencil or even charcoal. rolleyes.gif


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