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Posted: 02-Mar-2009, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE (Madadh @ 25-Feb-2009, 05:46 AM)
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and Kilted at work on the day.

Someone needs to tell these americans that there is no such thing as an irish kilt, and real irishman (i.e; from ireland) would laugh at the ridiculousness of an irish kilt.
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Posted: 02-Mar-2009, 06:34 PM
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Glaswegian: I think you sure like to pick a fight. For someone who said:
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To be scottish you must have been assimilated by scotlands culture, people, dialect, sense of inward and outward perceptions, ideology, philosphy, beliefs, worldview, cynicism, humour, kinship, community etc. etc.
you fall back on history to say there is no irish kilt. I don't think you are a typical Scottish character. We have a product over here called Happy Camper. Maybe you should try some.

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Posted: 02-Mar-2009, 09:40 PM
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glaswegian, Why is it an Irishman would laugh at someone wearing a kilt? It's childish to make fun of someone for what they wear. Here in America if we want to wear tartan plaid underwear we can and if we want to wear an irish kilt we do. We are proud of our heritage whatever it happens to be. I know Madadh is proud of his Irish ancestors so to show this he wears a kilt and takes part in a St. Patrick's Day parade. My roots go back to Ireland. I've never been there but there is a connection like no other place on God's green earth for me. Please, just lighten up on us a little and don't be so critical of what we do and wear.
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Posted: 03-Mar-2009, 06:23 AM
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Actually, I found that my family is an Irish sept of the Stuart clan. Not sure what we did in antiquity to deserve it, but it does give me the unique right to be both Irish and kilted.



Besides, it is a fine outfit to wear and being a slightly over weight, balding, 52 year old, the only way I get to have young women (of all ages) ask me about my clothing habits. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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We are a house of Henderson and Riley.
As adults we respect and honor each other's heritage.
Perhaps a return to the history books is called for.
No matter what you claim, Scottish or Irish remember
at some point all our forefathers passed into and out of
each country.
How do I know? Simple, I have 200 years of history for
Clan Henderson in journals, scrolls, and letters. Also, I
am a published author and must make my books right
on the money when it comes to history.
At my age I've lived most of it. HA!HA!
Let's not fight amoung ourselves as we need to band together
and honor the past, no matter green or kilt.
Wear poaka dots, but wear it with honor and pride. Royal02.gif

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Flora, Maggie if I may make a suggestion...don't pay any attention to what glaswegian babbles in this topic as it seems that he's only able to stir pooh.gif in every topics he posts and that includes insults to others...it proves ones immaturity and also doesn't seem to have gotten the message that Paul posted directly to him in another thread about his behavior.

Maybe he needs to be reminded again.... wink.gif


As for us here in Montreal the St-Patrick's parade will celebrate its 185th anniversary and it promise to be something...and contrary to past years this year the parade will be held on March 22nd...probably to have better weather and warmer. Of course, we will be part of the grand affair and probably end up at McKibbins and enjoy some good fun and music.

I wish all the best on St-Paddy's day and lots of great fun Maggie.

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QUOTE (flora @ 02-Mar-2009, 06:34 PM)
Glaswegian: I think you sure like to pick a fight. For someone who said:
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To be scottish you must have been assimilated by scotlands culture, people, dialect, sense of inward and outward perceptions, ideology, philosphy, beliefs, worldview, cynicism, humour, kinship, community etc. etc.
you fall back on history to say there is no irish kilt. I don't think you are a typical Scottish character. We have a product over here called Happy Camper. Maybe you should try some.

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There is NO irish kilt. I have lived in ireland for several years with my irish girlfriend. I am telling you that the irish did not wear kilts, currently do not wear kilts and never will wear kilts.

an irishman in a kilt is like a japanese person in lederhosen.

irish american culture is made up culture, american irish culture is the most fake, superficial , transparent culture there is.
And I know most of the irish would agree with me.
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and for the record my father is irish born and raised in dublin. I personally hate the word heritage, I prefer just to say that My dad is irish, I never drone on about my irish "heritage" or giving the impression that I am irish, because I am not nirish. I am not 50% irish because you cannnot be 50% irish. you are either irish or not.

I am 100% scot because thats where I was born and raised.
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Posted: 03-Mar-2009, 08:12 PM
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Glaswegian may I ask why you visit this site? If it is the music, you have to admit that has been influenced by other cultures. From your definition of being Scottish, which to me has been defined by influences from other cultures (England) you are still proud of who you are. Let others have the same right.

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QUOTE (flora @ 03-Mar-2009, 08:12 PM)
Glaswegian may I ask why you visit this site? If it is the music, you have to admit that has been influenced by other cultures. From your definition of being Scottish, which to me has been defined by influences from other cultures (England) you are still proud of who you are. Let others have the same right.

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The english culture has influenced the scots and vice versa. That does not mean I am english.

My father is irish, I do not feel any pride in being irish because I am not irish, nor can I possibly fathom what it is like to be irish, despite living in ireland for a number of years.

I am not taking anyones rights away of being proud to be who you are.

Americans should be proud to be americans, americans should see themselves as americans and not intrude on identities that do not belong to them, nor could they possibly understand.
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Now I know it is getting close to St. Patrick's Day: a member from the UK takes us to task for our "pride" in being Irish, Scots, Welsh, British, Pictish, Druid, Hindu, etc, etc. Happens every year.
But, I understand what he is saying and have often wondered about it myself.
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j Padraig moore;

Maybe if glaswegian read "An Unstoppable Force" by Lucille H. Campey, he would begin to understand why we Scots in Canada feel the way we do about our ancestors and our Scottish Heritage. If he ever comes to Canada I recommend that he stay away from "Cape Breton"



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Posted: 04-Mar-2009, 12:07 PM
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Glaswegian is such a sad little man. Stop replying to his hate comments
and he will go away. You can't fight with yourself.
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Camac & Donajhi,
You both are right...never should have risen to the bait... sad.gif
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Posted: 04-Mar-2009, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (Lady-of-Avalon @ 03-Mar-2009, 05:09 PM)
Flora, Maggie if I may make a suggestion...don't pay any attention to what glaswegian babbles in this topic as it seems that he's only able to stir pooh.gif in every topics he posts and that includes insults to others...it proves ones immaturity and also doesn't seem to have gotten the message that Paul posted directly to him in another thread about his behavior.

Maybe he needs to be reminded again.... wink.gif



J Padraig Moore,

Read what I posted for Flora and Maggie and Camac knows what I am referring to also...and you can look up at the bottom on his name when he was warn to thread carefully towards others on the site.

Happy St-Patrick's day to all of Irish roots and be proud of who you are.

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