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Posted: 20-Jan-2009, 12:50 PM
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I just watched our New President take his place in History and a flood gate opened up in my head. I being born in 1952 I do remember much of what going on with race,much of what was in the South but it did make it's way to Michigan. In 1965 my cousin owned a barber shop in Jackson, what was called then "The bad side of town" it was where the colored people lived. The riots hit there, stores were burned ,windows broken out, National Guard was brought in with the orders to shoot to kill. This went on for maybe a week I don't remember for sure how long but what I do is that my cousin's shop was not touched not one window broke. A news reporter asked some men that were standing there WHY not this place, what they said was just this" This man has always treated us like we were human no better but no worse then he,then he asked my cousin some questions the only answer I can remember is the one everyone should remember is " You treat everyone the way you would like to be treated "

I am so glad to have lived though all of this to have seen it all. I hope all of those men standing there that day in Jackson Michigan have been able to witness this great day.


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Posted: 20-Jan-2009, 02:50 PM
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Today is the beginning of a new era. Barak Obama is now officially the President of the United States. A man whose father was born in Kenya and whose mother was born in Kansas. A marriage that, at the time, was illegal in many parts of this country. A Christian man with an Islamic name. A man who spent part of his youth living in Indonesia with an Indonesian step-father. Truly this is a man whose credentials and background have prepared him to be, not just the leader of the U.S., but a leading voice in the world. Perhaps now is the beginning of a new appreciation for justice and freedom throughout the world. Perhaps the peoples of the world will learn that peace is the goal we should be seeking.


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Posted: 21-Jan-2009, 12:43 AM
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I belive America has cut their own throat. Only time will tell.


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Posted: 21-Jan-2009, 08:58 AM
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I wish the new President all the best but I have the impression that the American People think they have found a Messiah. When a Roman Leader was awarded a Triumph and he paraded through the streets of Rome a slave rode behind him in his chariot whispering to him "Remember you are a Man" and that is what Obama is a Man. Albeit he is now the most powerful Man on Earth, but he stands alone in that exalted position with all the reponsibilities and obligations that come with the job. If he is to succeed he is going to need the help of you the American People.
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Posted: 21-Jan-2009, 09:33 AM
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Well put. I am watching his appointments and like bush, in that area, he is falling short. In bush's case few qualified people would accept and in Obama's, his choices. I am hearing this from my democrat friends too. People can, in trying times, rise to the occasion though. I hope this will be the case.

Neither he nor anyone else can fix the economy, and those who think so will be terribly disappointed!

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Posted: 21-Jan-2009, 10:01 AM
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Not being raised in a Republic your system some times confuses the hell out of me.
Unlike your system in ours you cannot be elevated to a cabinet post unless you hold a seat in Parliament. In someways though perhaps your system of appointments is better in that your have a wider field to choose from. There is a maxim or law about "an individual will rise to their own level of incompetence" can't remember who said it. The only comments I have heard here is about the Director of Homeland Security, I believe she is the Govenor of Arizona, and that is she knows nothing about the conditions on the Northern Border. Every comment up here about Hilary seems to be in a positive tone. The only other worrisome comments that have been made concerns your Secretary of Defense in that he will apply pressure for Canada to keep our troops in Afghanistan past 2011. Our Government set that as the deadline for the pull out of our combat units.


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Posted: 21-Jan-2009, 01:07 PM
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I am happy that America elected a Black, African American, President and the yestersday was a very historic day. I strongly disagree with the $153,000,000 that was spent on the events. It could have and should have benn done cheaper.


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Posted: 21-Jan-2009, 02:04 PM
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$153,000,000 and they didn't even have any clowns. Oh sorry they did, all the politicians who cried when G.W. Left..


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Clinton does not worry me as much as some of the others. Our system does offer a wider range of possibilities but someone who had ben elected by people who knew them at one point has its merits also.

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I agree the money could have been better spent but more troubling is that a tremendous amount came from the corporations that have been bailed out and are probably in need of more assistance now. Those are the actions that did away with deregulation and led us to where we are. Personally, I would have refused the money on the basis that it "appeared" improper.

I intend to be supportive until such time as I see that Obama is violating his oath "to defend the Constitution--" or, to a lesser degree, his policies cause a worse economic situation (run away inflation). I do not know that this will happen and suspect that he will take his duties seriously.

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Posted: 21-Jan-2009, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE (Camac @ 21-Jan-2009, 03:04 PM)
$153,000,000 and they didn't even have any clowns. Oh sorry they did, all the politicians who cried when G.W. Left..


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With his approval rating, the politicians and comedians were about the only ones who cried.

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Posted: 21-Jan-2009, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE (Camac @ 21-Jan-2009, 02:04 PM)
$153,000,000 and they didn't even have any clowns. Oh sorry they did, all the politicians who cried when G.W. Left..


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The thin I find most ironic of all is how the same folks who critized Bush ,on how he spent $43,000,000 on his last inaguration, arn't saying a thing about Obama spending $153,000,000. Hummmm, You can't say that's not hypocritical nwo can we wink.gif ? I brought up the subject at work and was told by a co-worker that since the country is in such misery, we need to have a little fun and joy. That is the very reason we're in the financial crisis we're in today. The selfish I want it and I want it NOW attitude unsure.gif . I can see it now. No matter what Obama say or does how good or bad, he'll never get the critizem Bush got since day one unsure.gif . I support and pray for President. He's going to need it wink.gif .
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Posted: 21-Jan-2009, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE (Camac @ 21-Jan-2009, 08:58 AM)
I wish the new President all the best but I have the impression that the American People think they have found a Messiah. When a Roman Leader was awarded a Triumph and he paraded through the streets of Rome a slave rode behind him in his chariot whispering to him "Remember you are a Man" and that is what Obama is a Man. Albeit he is now the most powerful Man on Earth, but he stands alone in that exalted position with all the reponsibilities and obligations that come with the job. If he is to succeed he is going to need the help of you the American People.
All the American People.


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I would be more concerned about this if I were not watching the man himself as closely. I don't think he is besotted with himself, as an individual with a huge, daunting set of challenges in front of him, the way the people are besotted with the inflated -- yes, messianic -- image of him. I don't believe he buys into the image, although he may have taken advantage of it to get himself elected. I don't think I agree that he stands alone -- he had the sense to wrap a thick, protective cabinet around him, and I think he will listen to them and seek them out, unlike his predecessor. Also, the crowd of starry-eyed followers at this point are thinking of what he represents symbolically in terms of the country's recent and more distant past, but he, I think, is already looking to what his personal effect is going to be on the immediate and far-reaching future. The inauguration is taking account of both -- but if you ask me what impresses me more, the symbolism of taking the oath on Lincoln's bible or that flint-and-steel address devoid of all prettiness (though I am very sure he could have delivered one of the more literary-styled things we love to make children recite when the conflict is long over), it would be the address above all. I think he may not yet know what he's doing in every particular, and only going through it will bring him that -- but he knows what he's there for, and the people can make the symbolic celebration of it that they will, without turning his head.

I think we better damned well put the drinks and balloons down, and give him a level-headed chance, and get behind him and push. What other choice is there now?
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Posted: 21-Jan-2009, 03:17 PM
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NovaScotian;

I all seriousness I agree with you but then I have no right to complain as I am an outsider looking in. We don't have inaugruations in Canada just a swearing in of the P.M. and his Cabinet by the Govenor General. A lot simpler and less expensive. $153 mil does seem excessive.


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QUOTE (Camac @ 21-Jan-2009, 03:17 PM)
NovaScotian;

I all seriousness I agree with you but then I have no right to complain as I am an outsider looking in. We don't have inaugruations in Canada just a swearing in of the P.M. and his Cabinet by the Govenor General. A lot simpler and less expensive. $153 mil does seem excessive.


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Stressed plebians want bread and circuses. dry.gif

On the other hand, there were over a million people on that mall. You better believe a whole pile of that money went on hyper-tight security, and sure, you could have said "No people can come, watch it at home on the telly for safety's sake" -- but who could ever make that stick? or would really want to?
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