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Jillian 
Posted: 15-Oct-2008, 08:52 AM
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Feel free to cross any parts of your person that you wish, but keep one hand free to toast President Elect Obama after the election. Whether the toast is a glass of single malt beverage or a "New Jersey salute" is your choice.  - Maisky


LOL! I like your "New Jersey salute"...so true, so true...hey originally from P'Burg! Go Stateliners! The "Big Game" isn't too far off now! Sorry...off topic.

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Posted: 20-Oct-2008, 08:41 AM
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Once upon a time, if Colin Powell had run for the presidency, I would have voted for him, and now, even though he has come out and indorsed Obama. Itís too little too late.


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I must say those of us predicting an Obama win better not count our chickens too soon... The local newspaper here endorsed McCain yesterday in a move that really surprised me. In short, their reasoning was Obama's lack of experience.

Over the past couple of Presidential elections, I have been able to make a totally non-scientific, completely subjective survey, based on the amount of yard signs I see. My job allows me to travel the length and breadth of Ohio quite a few times in one year. In 2000 and 2004, the vast majority of yard signs were for W, not Gore or Kerry. This year, I see many, many McCain signs, but still see quite a few Obama ones too. I should note that the area of Ohio I live in is very, very red (conservative GOP). I am actually seeing quite a number of Obama signs in my town, whereas in '00 and "04, there were absolutely no Gore or Kerry signs.
What does this mean? Probably nothing. Or can it mean a change is coming?
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Posted: 20-Oct-2008, 09:42 AM
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I am not 100% versed in the American Political System but when I watched the HBO movie John Adams when he became President, Jefferson, who was from a different party, had recieved the 2nd highest amount of votes and became Vice-President. Does this mean that it is possible to have a Democratic Pres. and a Republican V.P. ?


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Posted: 20-Oct-2008, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (Camac @ 20-Oct-2008, 09:42 AM)
Patch;

I am not 100% versed in the American Political System but when I watched the HBO movie John Adams when he became President, Jefferson, who was from a different party, had recieved the 2nd highest amount of votes and became Vice-President. Does this mean that it is possible to have a Democratic Pres. and a Republican V.P. ?


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Not anymore Camac. An Ammendment to the Constitution (can't recall which one) changed that possibility. But it does make you think what a McCain/Obama administration would be like!

By the way, to all of our Canadian friends: if McCain/Palin are victorious in November, can we move north and become your next door neighbors?
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Hell yes!!!! We have enough room to take the whole population of the US. and still have room for the worlds biggest party. There is a problem though. You have to leave your firearms at the border.?????

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Correction. Hand Guns at the Border long arms (no auto or assault) if registered are alowed.
               
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QUOTE (j Padraig moore @ 20-Oct-2008, 01:11 PM)
QUOTE (Camac @ 20-Oct-2008, 09:42 AM)
Patch;

I am not 100% versed in the American Political System† but when I watched the HBO movie John Adams when he became President, Jefferson, who was from a different party, had recieved the 2nd highest amount of votes and became Vice-President. Does this mean that it is possible to have a Democratic Pres. and a Republican V.P. ?


Camac.

Not anymore Camac. An Ammendment to the Constitution (can't recall which one) changed that possibility. But it does make you think what a McCain/Obama administration would be like!

By the way, to all of our Canadian friends: if McCain/Palin are victorious in November, can we move north and become your next door neighbors?

I agree j Padraig moore.
The idea of Plain potentially being a hairs breath away from the presidency is totally unexcitable to me. And the notion of leaving America, should that happen, would be the icing on the cake, an icing which has weighed on my mind since Bush stole the 2000 election. But, the big question is where to go. Never in my life have I considered the possibility of being a man without a country. So, at the moment I think Iíll just stay here in America, and do whatever I can to effect change for the better, no matter what.
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You are always welcome up here in "The True North". It is said that there are places here no white man has ever been. BIG COUNTRY. REALLY BIG. Get lost in very easily.


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Wait a minute before everyone jumps ship.

Let's explore that idea again. What if:

McCain is President and Obama is Vice President. Could it work?

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LEAVE THE USA IF YOUR CANDIDATE DOESN'T GET ELECTED. PLEASE LETS GET REAL. But if you want to go, go Delta is ready when you are and so are the rest of the airlines. I cringe at the idea of these two being in office but I'm staying and believe me this country will weather the storm and we will survive. Oh by the way Bush didn't steal the election. Just my opinion. All of us have one.

Oh sure a McCain/Obama ticket would work. Both have the same ideas and will head us down the same road. One will wear red and the other blue. In other words I think they both speak liberalism/socialism.
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A little Socialism wouldn't hurt. Look where rampant Capitalism has gotten you.


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Posted: 20-Oct-2008, 09:26 PM
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I don't believe in sharing the wealth, it makes people lazy. I believe less government is the best government.

Sharing the wealth is a phrase that has come out of Obamas mouth.

Capitalism isn't the problem. Its that bunch in Washington that have forgotten why they are in Washington, why they were elected. We the people have failed to make these people accountable.

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What do you know about real, youíre life revolves around a fantasy? Just my opinion, all of us have one.
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Posted: 20-Oct-2008, 10:34 PM
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What do you know about real, youíre life revolves around a fantasy? Just my opinion, all of us have one.

JC, you don't know me. So let me tell you about my reality. My reality is I put myself though nursing school by throwing a paper route with 2 children in a car with no air conditioning and we walked part of that route 7 days a week. I asked for no government assistance nor did I expect it. I had no insurance when I had my first child and I worked to pay for the prenatal care and my husbands family helped pay the hospital bill. I know what it is like to band together to help pay for a familys members health care/prescription. I have a child with a chronic illness.

I know what it is like when your spouse is laid off from his job, and I have worked the second job to make up for that lost wage. I have scrubbed floors and cleaned toilets to put a roof over my head and food on the table.

Sir I live in no fantasy. But I do believe in our constitution in the ideas that brought this nation into exsitence. I am sadden that the people of this country have come to the point where hard work is being replace by entitlement.
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QUOTE (gwenlee @ 20-Oct-2008, 11:34 PM)
JC, you don't know me. So let me tell you about my reality. My reality is I put myself though nursing school by throwing a paper route with 2 children in a car with no air conditioning and we walked part of that route 7 days a week. I asked for no government assistance nor did I expect it. I had no insurance when I had my first child and I worked to pay for the prenatal care and my husbands family helped pay the hospital bill. I know what it is like to band together to help pay for a familys members health care/prescription. I have a child with a chronic illness.

I know what it is like when your spouse is laid off from his job, and I have worked the second job to make up for that lost wage. I have scrubbed floors and cleaned toilets to put a roof over my head and food on the table.

Sir I live in no fantasy. But I do believe in our constitution in the ideas that brought this nation into exsitence. I am sadden that the people of this country have come to the point where hard work is being replace by entitlement.

What you describe is what made/makes America great. I am guessing your children have been taught the same values.

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