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UlsterScotNutt 
Posted: 23-Jun-2008, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE (Camac @ 23-Jun-2008, 11:04 AM)
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To royalosiodhachain,

How about now, do you think you are being overzealous and perhaps superficial now?
I believe you have successfully lead us away from a relevant discussion of the Decree on Ecumenism.

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Good on ya Mate.

There is one other inaccuracy from Royal who ever that I would like to correct . I am Scots (born there) not Irish and if I was hiding from anyone (which I more than likely was) it would have been Columba and his boys not Paddy.



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My guess is that he is still here from time to time watching.

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He may be watching but unable to communicate. He was banned for his posts.


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QUOTE (stevenpd @ 23-Jun-2008, 07:37 PM)
He may be watching but unable to communicate. He was banned for his posts.


Does this mean he has been Defrocked and excommunicated? Dang I guess I had better put the "Strapado" back in its crate.

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Ok, I am glad that was the case as I am Catholic and I felt terrible that someone of my faith could be so radical and insulting. Thank you!

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QUOTE (stevenpd @ 23-Jun-2008, 06:37 PM)
He may be watching but unable to communicate. He was banned for his posts.

Perhaps its a good thing. After some of his remarks I was about to forget my policy of no contact and "engage"


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QUOTE (Camac @ 23-Jun-2008, 01:53 PM)

Does this mean he has been Defrocked and excommunicated? Dang I guess I had better put the "Strapado" back in its crate.

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Priests are still "Defrocked" but "the church" has not, to my knowledge, excommunicated anyone in modern times. Royal could make one think along those lines though. Those are not my decisions to make.

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WHAT??????????? You mean I can't get Celtic on his a$$???? NO FAIR!!!
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WHAT??????????? You mean I can't get Celtic on his a$$???? NO FAIR!!!
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All of you had already beaten him. That is why he resorted to the insults. Though we can not know, I still believe he was a defrocked Priest.

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I was looking over his post and he mentioned that he was a member of the Ukrainian Catholic church. This is in full communion with the Roman rite of the Catholic church but it is slighly different in emphasis on crtain things. Wikipedia article is here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Catholic_Church
I also suspect he may have been a member of the Priestly Society of Saint Josept.
In 2001 a priest, Fr. Vasil Kovpak, and a small group of followers opposed to certain policies (such as de-latinisation) and ecumenism of the UGCC hierarchy, organized themselves as the Priestly Society of Saint Josaphat. The PSSJ possesses close ties with the Traditionalist Catholic Society of Saint Pius X, which rejects and condemns certain actions and policies of both Cardinal Husar and of the Pope. On November 21, 2007 the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith excommunicated Fr. Kovpak. This may be the reason why he believed that some of the ecumenism by the Vatican may be consisdered a scandal. I wonder if he realizes that the Roman Catholic Church and the Lutherans have already made some progress and have agreed upon, some years back already, on the issue of justification by faith and the acceptance of the role of Mary is becoming more widespread amoung various Protestant denominations.
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I am against his banishment.
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QUOTE (Robert Phoenix @ 23-Jun-2008, 04:38 PM)
I was looking over his post and he mentioned that he was a member of the Ukrainian Catholic church. This is in full communion with the Roman rite of the Catholic church but it is slighly different in emphasis on crtain things. Wikipedia article is here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Catholic_Church
I also suspect he may have been a member of the Priestly Society of Saint Josept.
In 2001 a priest, Fr. Vasil Kovpak, and a small group of followers opposed to certain policies (such as de-latinisation) and ecumenism of the UGCC hierarchy, organized themselves as the Priestly Society of Saint Josaphat. The PSSJ possesses close ties with the Traditionalist Catholic Society of Saint Pius X, which rejects and condemns certain actions and policies of both Cardinal Husar and of the Pope. On November 21, 2007 the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith excommunicated Fr. Kovpak. This may be the reason why he believed that some of the ecumenism by the Vatican may be consisdered a scandal. I wonder if he realizes that the Roman Catholic Church and the Lutherans have already made some progress and have agreed upon, some years back already, on the issue of justification by faith and the acceptance of the role of Mary is becoming more widespread amoung various Protestant denominations.

It is strange that we didn't hear of the excommunication in the in my church. There have been instances where priests are relieved of all priestly duties but still are allowed to remain in the Catholic faith. Excommunication is being removed from all aspects of the church. Pretty harsh!

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