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John Clements 
Posted: 18-Nov-2007, 10:04 AM
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Once again, I think Dennis Kucinich clearly won the “so called” democratic bate the other night. All though I have to say, that John Edwards was close on his heals.

But still, both the corporate owned media, and the corporate owned democrats, refuse to acknowledge Kucinich. If you ask me, I think Dennis Kucinich is being deliberately shunned, because the last thing “they” the corporate robber barons want…is change!

So, what one has to ask oneself is: (to quote somebody) “Are you better off now, then you were yesterday”? I think not!

Oh by the way. I think if your rights go away, so does your security, for they are one and the same! But then Dennis Kucinich never got to answer the question, about which was more important…did he.


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Posted: 18-Nov-2007, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (John Clements @ 18-Nov-2007, 09:04 AM)
Once again, I think Dennis Kucinich clearly won the “so called” democratic bate the other night. All though I have to say, that John Edwards was close on heals.

But still, both the corporate owned media, and the corporate owned democrats, refuse to acknowledge Kucinich. If you ask me, I think Dennis Kucinich is being deliberately shunned, because the last thing “they” the corporate robber barons want…is change!

So, what one has to ask oneself is: (to quote somebody) “Are you better off now, then you were yesterday”? I think not!

Oh by the way. I think if your rights go away, so does your security, for they are one and the same! But then Dennis Kucinich never got to answer the question, about which was more important…did he.

They do the same thing to Hunter and Paul in the Republican debates, John. Pretty frustrating, isn't it?


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Posted: 18-Nov-2007, 11:14 PM
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Gotta have a good media machine behind you to make sure you get lots of coverage and publicity if you are going to be president. I wonder if anybody did a study on how many times a person was mentioned in the media had an effect on who won. I wasn't really paying attention to the democratic side of things because all I heard was Hillery/Obama. I'll have to check out Kucinich because I hadn't even heard him mentioned anywhere before.
And yes Haynes 9 it was really frustrating to see Hunter and Paul kept off to the sidelines. Paul seems to have has a fair bit of common sense which is what I first like about him.


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Posted: 07-Dec-2007, 10:25 AM
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“Why can’t we have a president who gets it right the first time?”
That question was asked by Dennis Kucinich, at the last so called democratic debate, and I think it’s pretty telling question, don’t you?
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Posted: 08-Dec-2007, 10:55 PM
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Hey JC. Just woundering how you feel about Dennis Kucinich's stance on hand guns. Did you know he wants to ban them all from civilians. Just an FYI is all.


Plan to ban handguns
In the aftermath of the Virginia Tech massacre in Blacksburg, Virginia, Kucinich proposed a plan that he says will address violence in America. Kucinich is currently drafting legislation that includes a ban on the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians.[63]

The congressman has pushed for gun control, even as a city councilman. He did carry a handgun for a period of time in 1978 (under the recommendation of the police) when he was the target of a mafia plot.

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Posted: 09-Dec-2007, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (Nova Scotian @ 08-Dec-2007, 10:55 PM)
Hey JC. Just woundering how you feel about Dennis Kucinich's stance on hand guns. Did you know he wants to ban them all from civilians. Just an FYI is all.


Plan to ban handguns
In the aftermath of the Virginia Tech massacre in Blacksburg, Virginia, Kucinich proposed a plan that he says will address violence in America. Kucinich is currently drafting legislation that includes a ban on the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians.[63]

The congressman has pushed for gun control, even as a city councilman. He did carry a handgun for a period of time in 1978 (under the recommendation of the police) when he was the target of a mafia plot.

Source, Wikipedia

Hi Nova, I don’t think Kucinich is the end all and be all. He’s just the candidate who I agree with the most. As for him banning “legal” hand guns? I would have to appose him on that issue, unless of course I could be assured that “all” hand guns were eliminated. But I think we all know that’s not going to happen any time soon. And although I know full well that the gun issue is important, for me it’s just not on the front burner at the moment.
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Posted: 09-Dec-2007, 10:10 PM
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I am in favor of Mike Huckabee for President, but then so is Chuck Norris, anyone want to argue with him?


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Posted: 09-Dec-2007, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE (John Clements @ 09-Dec-2007, 08:37 PM)
QUOTE (Nova Scotian @ 08-Dec-2007, 10:55 PM)
Hey JC. Just woundering how you feel about Dennis Kucinich's stance on hand guns. Did you know he wants to ban them all from civilians. Just an FYI is all.


Plan to ban handguns
In the aftermath of the Virginia Tech massacre in Blacksburg, Virginia, Kucinich proposed a plan that he says will address violence in America. Kucinich is currently drafting legislation that includes a ban on the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians.[63]

The congressman has pushed for gun control, even as a city councilman. He did carry a handgun for a period of time in 1978 (under the recommendation of the police) when he was the target of a mafia plot.

Source, Wikipedia

Hi Nova, I don’t think Kucinich is the end all and be all. He’s just the candidate who I agree with the most. As for him banning “legal” hand guns? I would have to appose him on that issue, unless of course I could be assured that “all” hand guns were eliminated. But I think we all know that’s not going to happen any time soon. And although I know full well that the gun issue is important, for me it’s just not on the front burner at the moment.

Understood. That's what I thought anyway. biggrin.gif
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Posted: 10-Dec-2007, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE (Druid_of_Ark @ 09-Dec-2007, 10:10 PM)
I am in favor of Mike Huckabee for President, but then so is Chuck Norris, anyone want to argue with him?

Any time any where! Now we are talking “arguing”, correct?
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Posted: 13-Dec-2007, 03:08 PM
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In my opinion, the very idea that Dennis Kucinich, (for what ever reason), will not be allowed to participate in tonight’s…“so called Democratic Debate”, is so far beyond idiotic. It is a testament to just how, “fearfully shallow” we have become. At least that’s what I’m thinking.
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Posted: 13-Dec-2007, 03:25 PM
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Dear John,

I made the remark about arguing with Chuck quite tongue in cheek. I mean face it he will not come and beat you up if you dont vote for Mike Huckabee...or will he? LOL! Ask yourself, "Do I feel LUCKY?" Thanks for missing the humour I am now rolling on the floor with laughter! And I needed it, this beats the Penguin baseball for stress relief.
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QUOTE (Druid_of_Ark @ 13-Dec-2007, 03:25 PM)
Dear John,

I made the remark about arguing with Chuck quite tongue in cheek. I mean face it he will not come and beat you up if you dont vote for Mike Huckabee...or will he? LOL! Ask yourself, "Do I feel LUCKY?" Thanks for missing the humour I am now rolling on the floor with laughter! And I needed it, this beats the Penguin baseball for stress relief.

Some times humor has a way of sneaking up on us.
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Posted: 18-Dec-2007, 05:52 PM
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Incase you haven’t heard, Chris Dodd flue back to Washington DC from the campaign trail yesterday. To actually filibuster for some six hours or so, to stop a vote on the FISA bill, which was going to give the Phone Companies immunity, for illegally spied on us. As fare as I’m concerned Majority Leader Reid has moved up on my impeachment list, and Chris Dodd has moved up on my elect list. (Can you imagine a politician that actual did their job)?

See what MR. Dodd had to say...

http://chrisdodd.com/victory
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Posted: 18-Dec-2007, 07:01 PM
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Having not liked anyone running for this presidental race up until now, I finally found two people I really like......Huckabee and Ron Paul. So gonna be checking these two guys out even more from here forward. tongue.gif wink.gif biggrin.gif Just in case you all wanted to know! laugh.gif


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