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British Columbia has made a good deal of money from me and my rifles!  I have hunted many times there and hope to make one more trip.  I have hunted Alberta too.  Fishing has been in Ontario with one trip to Great Slave Lake.  I learned a little French in a small town North East of Montreal. 

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I am not too fond of Texas myself.

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QUOTE (Camac @ 03-May-2008, 07:55 PM)
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"This year will go down in history.  For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration.  Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future!"  --- Adolf Hitler, 1935

This speaks for its self!

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It's too bad the anti-gunners just don't seem to get this Patch. The 2nd amendment is what it is. If it's been corrupted? Then the same argument could be brought up against the first amendment. Let's just remember that. To our good neighbors to the North. Let the USA be the USA. I'm willing to let Canada be Canada. I guess the RCMP, who BTW I've two cousins who are "Mounties", can be everywhere at once since pepper spray and every other kind of non-lethal force is illegal.

Nova Scotian;
As you have two cousins that are RCMP then you know that they are the Federal Police Force. Something like the FBI & US Marshalls rolled into one. They only have local juristiction in Provinces that they are under contract to. Ontario is not one of them. We have the O.P.P. (Ontario Provincial Police). Each large municipality and city have their own police force. I have both an RCMP Constable and a Metro Toronto Constable living in my building and both of them are fervent gun control advocates. I am not in any way trying to force my ideas on any one just state a different point of view. I personally find it incomprhensible why anyone would want ot own a gun.

I'm aware a little on how the RCMP operates. They are actually contracted to police the area of Nova Scotia where my roots are. The 2 cousins I have, I have had some serious conversations concerning gun control. They sound like robots to me like they're preprogrammed to despise anything that has to do with gun rights and they refuse to hear my point of view on it. Gun control is one of the main reasons I'd never become a permanent resident in Nova Scotia even though Nova Scotia is and I hope always will be my 2nd home. I will always love the USA as my home first and foremost. If you think it's incomprhensible why someone would want to own a Gun? Well mabe that's what makes you Canadian and why QE2 the Monarch of Great Briton remains on all you currency and remains head of state. I as American believe firmly I have the RIGHT to own and posess a gun to protect me my home and family. I've many in my ancestry who have fought for it and there are those who fought against it and that's where the Nova Scotian loyalist connection comes in. Yes. My greatx4 grandfather was a loyalist traitor and tried to stop what the US has. But his actions left me a beautiful place to go to in Nova Scotia. That's something I thank God for.

Nova Scotian; If I might be so bold as to remind you that had it not been for French intervention you would have lost the Revolution and your Founding Fathers
would have hung for treason. So don't thank God thank the French.


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I'm very aware of the French's intervention into tthe Revolution. Now what is your point in posting that fact? I could be wrong but you came across as perturbed. Yes the founding fathers would have hanged but so would my greatx4 grandfather had he stayed in the colonies after the Contintal Armys victory. It wasn't the first time nor the last time a power ally interviened. biggrin.gif
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It is hot, a lot of their hunting is in penned enclosures and includes exotic animals. The foremost reason is their stance on illegal aliens. I have recent legal immigrants in my family who did all the paperwork and waited their turn.

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QUOTE (Nova Scotian @ 04-May-2008, 08:11 AM)
QUOTE (Camac @ 03-May-2008, 07:55 PM)
QUOTE (Nova Scotian @ 03-May-2008, 07:27 PM)
QUOTE (Camac @ 03-May-2008, 12:48 PM)
QUOTE (Nova Scotian @ 03-May-2008, 11:21 AM)
QUOTE (Patch @ 01-May-2008, 09:29 AM)
"This year will go down in history.  For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration.  Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future!"  --- Adolf Hitler, 1935

This speaks for its self!

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Patch

It's too bad the anti-gunners just don't seem to get this Patch. The 2nd amendment is what it is. If it's been corrupted? Then the same argument could be brought up against the first amendment. Let's just remember that. To our good neighbors to the North. Let the USA be the USA. I'm willing to let Canada be Canada. I guess the RCMP, who BTW I've two cousins who are "Mounties", can be everywhere at once since pepper spray and every other kind of non-lethal force is illegal.

Nova Scotian;
As you have two cousins that are RCMP then you know that they are the Federal Police Force. Something like the FBI & US Marshalls rolled into one. They only have local juristiction in Provinces that they are under contract to. Ontario is not one of them. We have the O.P.P. (Ontario Provincial Police). Each large municipality and city have their own police force. I have both an RCMP Constable and a Metro Toronto Constable living in my building and both of them are fervent gun control advocates. I am not in any way trying to force my ideas on any one just state a different point of view. I personally find it incomprhensible why anyone would want ot own a gun.

I'm aware a little on how the RCMP operates. They are actually contracted to police the area of Nova Scotia where my roots are. The 2 cousins I have, I have had some serious conversations concerning gun control. They sound like robots to me like they're preprogrammed to despise anything that has to do with gun rights and they refuse to hear my point of view on it. Gun control is one of the main reasons I'd never become a permanent resident in Nova Scotia even though Nova Scotia is and I hope always will be my 2nd home. I will always love the USA as my home first and foremost. If you think it's incomprhensible why someone would want to own a Gun? Well mabe that's what makes you Canadian and why QE2 the Monarch of Great Briton remains on all you currency and remains head of state. I as American believe firmly I have the RIGHT to own and posess a gun to protect me my home and family. I've many in my ancestry who have fought for it and there are those who fought against it and that's where the Nova Scotian loyalist connection comes in. Yes. My greatx4 grandfather was a loyalist traitor and tried to stop what the US has. But his actions left me a beautiful place to go to in Nova Scotia. That's something I thank God for.

Nova Scotian; If I might be so bold as to remind you that had it not been for French intervention you would have lost the Revolution and your Founding Fathers
would have hung for treason. So don't thank God thank the French.


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I'm very aware of the French's intervention into tthe Revolution. Now what is your point in posting that fact? I could be wrong but you came across as perturbed. Yes the founding fathers would have hanged but so would my greatx4 grandfather had he stayed in the colonies after the Contintal Armys victory. It wasn't the first time nor the last time a power ally interviened. biggrin.gif

I am not in the least perturbed merely stating facts. To us your great x 4 grandfather is called an "Empire Loyalist"of which there are a great many. Rather than rebel against the rightful government (at the time) they chose to leave all and sundry and start over in Canada. Merely facts. Also with the exception of our coins the Queen is only on one bill the $20. The $5, $10, $50, $100. $500, and $1000. all have Prime Ministers on them. Yes she is head of state but not only of Canada but 53 countries that make up the Commonwealth. Any way we are getting of track.
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QUOTE (Camac @ 04-May-2008, 08:56 AM)
QUOTE (Nova Scotian @ 04-May-2008, 08:11 AM)
QUOTE (Camac @ 03-May-2008, 07:55 PM)
QUOTE (Nova Scotian @ 03-May-2008, 07:27 PM)
QUOTE (Camac @ 03-May-2008, 12:48 PM)
QUOTE (Nova Scotian @ 03-May-2008, 11:21 AM)
QUOTE (Patch @ 01-May-2008, 09:29 AM)
"This year will go down in history.  For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration.  Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future!"  --- Adolf Hitler, 1935

This speaks for its self!

Slàinte,   

Patch

It's too bad the anti-gunners just don't seem to get this Patch. The 2nd amendment is what it is. If it's been corrupted? Then the same argument could be brought up against the first amendment. Let's just remember that. To our good neighbors to the North. Let the USA be the USA. I'm willing to let Canada be Canada. I guess the RCMP, who BTW I've two cousins who are "Mounties", can be everywhere at once since pepper spray and every other kind of non-lethal force is illegal.

Nova Scotian;
As you have two cousins that are RCMP then you know that they are the Federal Police Force. Something like the FBI & US Marshalls rolled into one. They only have local juristiction in Provinces that they are under contract to. Ontario is not one of them. We have the O.P.P. (Ontario Provincial Police). Each large municipality and city have their own police force. I have both an RCMP Constable and a Metro Toronto Constable living in my building and both of them are fervent gun control advocates. I am not in any way trying to force my ideas on any one just state a different point of view. I personally find it incomprhensible why anyone would want ot own a gun.

I'm aware a little on how the RCMP operates. They are actually contracted to police the area of Nova Scotia where my roots are. The 2 cousins I have, I have had some serious conversations concerning gun control. They sound like robots to me like they're preprogrammed to despise anything that has to do with gun rights and they refuse to hear my point of view on it. Gun control is one of the main reasons I'd never become a permanent resident in Nova Scotia even though Nova Scotia is and I hope always will be my 2nd home. I will always love the USA as my home first and foremost. If you think it's incomprhensible why someone would want to own a Gun? Well mabe that's what makes you Canadian and why QE2 the Monarch of Great Briton remains on all you currency and remains head of state. I as American believe firmly I have the RIGHT to own and posess a gun to protect me my home and family. I've many in my ancestry who have fought for it and there are those who fought against it and that's where the Nova Scotian loyalist connection comes in. Yes. My greatx4 grandfather was a loyalist traitor and tried to stop what the US has. But his actions left me a beautiful place to go to in Nova Scotia. That's something I thank God for.

Nova Scotian; If I might be so bold as to remind you that had it not been for French intervention you would have lost the Revolution and your Founding Fathers
would have hung for treason. So don't thank God thank the French.


Camac.

I'm very aware of the French's intervention into tthe Revolution. Now what is your point in posting that fact? I could be wrong but you came across as perturbed. Yes the founding fathers would have hanged but so would my greatx4 grandfather had he stayed in the colonies after the Contintal Armys victory. It wasn't the first time nor the last time a power ally interviened. biggrin.gif

I am not in the least perturbed merely stating facts. To us your great x 4 grandfather is called an "Empire Loyalist"of which there are a great many. Rather than rebel against the rightful government (at the time) they chose to leave all and sundry and start over in Canada. Merely facts. Also with the exception of our coins the Queen is only on one bill the $20. The $5, $10, $50, $100. $500, and $1000. all have Prime Ministers on them. Yes she is head of state but not only of Canada but 53 countries that make up the Commonwealth. Any way we are getting of track.
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Yes I agree we are getting off track.
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Nova Scotian; If I might be so bold as to remind you that had it not been for French intervention you would have lost the Revolution and your Founding Fathers
would have hung for treason. So don't thank God thank the French.


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Yes, it is true, they did help. However, twice we ensured that they didn't have to learn to speak German.

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Nova Scotian; If I might be so bold as to remind you that had it not been for French intervention you would have lost the Revolution and your Founding Fathers
would have hung for treason. So don't thank God thank the French.


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Yes, it is true, they did help. However, twice we ensured that they didn't have to learn to speak German.

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Sometimes I think it might have been better to let the French learn German.

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Nova Scotian; If I might be so bold as to remind you that had it not been for French intervention you would have lost the Revolution and your Founding Fathers
would have hung for treason. So don't thank God thank the French.


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Yes, it is true, they did help.  However, twice we ensured that they didn't have to learn to speak German.

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Sometimes I think it might have been better to let the French learn German.

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A lot of people died to keep France French. (Though that was part of a bigger plan)

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I'm just so very gratefull that Australia doesn't have a Gun Culture, very rarely do we have any gun trouble at all . We had one bad event some years ago and our Prime Minister responded by having a gun amnesty and the destruction of thousands of guns.

I cannot imagine having guns in anyones house at all. I have never seen a hand gun exept for in a police holster, I have never seen one drawn. The only people I have known with guns are farmers. Hunting is not a big sport here. We like swimming , Cricket and Rugby league.

I came home one day and interupted a robber in my house, my scottish genes kicked in and I did quite the Highland charge, the young man cut himself escaping out of the window that he had brocken to gain access, my daughter was amazed how mad a was and always felt that her mum was superwoman after that. I'm glad I didn't have a gun as I might of just been mad enough to use it and I would have hated having a life on my hands, come to think of it I would have shot my exhusband a few times over so once again, I'm really happy living in this big warm peaceful continent
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Australia passed a law outlawing all but single shot long guns and required registration of those. The last I read, violent crime had increased in Australia by 26% since gun control became effective. Every one gets to choose how much risk they are willing to take.

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Australia passed a law outlawing all but single shot long guns and required registration of those. The last I read, violent crime had increased in Australia by 26% since gun control became effective. Every one gets to choose how much risk they are willing to take.

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I believe Australia was populated by transported Irish, much like the US. Hmm. Doesnt that sort of explain all the violence? rolleyes.gif


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Australia passed a law outlawing all but single shot long guns and required registration of those.  The last I read, violent crime had increased in Australia by 26% since gun control became effective.  Every one gets to choose how much risk they are willing to take.

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I believe Australia was populated by transported Irish, much like the US. Hmm. Doesnt that sort of explain all the violence? rolleyes.gif

I believe that Australians was populated as a British prison colony. There was a diversified group from all of the British Empire. The increased violent crime I am talking about came after gun control was imposed. The Irish here settled mostly on our East coast. It does not explain the unusually high crime rates in California. (a gun control state) As the UK passed more stringent gun laws their violent crime rate increased even more than Australians. Their problems are now greatly attributed to Muslims. By violent crimes that would be Murder, Assault and Rape.

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Australia passed a law outlawing all but single shot long guns and required registration of those.  The last I read, violent crime had increased in Australia by 26% since gun control became effective.  Every one gets to choose how much risk they are willing to take.

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I believe Australia was populated by transported Irish, much like the US. Hmm. Doesnt that sort of explain all the violence? rolleyes.gif

I believe that Australians was populated as a British prison colony. There was a diversified group from all of the British Empire. The increased violent crime I am talking about came after gun control was imposed. The Irish here settled mostly on our East coast. It does not explain the unusually high crime rates in California. (a gun control state) As the UK passed more stringent gun laws their violent crime rate increased even more than Australians. Their problems are now greatly attributed to Muslims. By violent crimes that would be Murder, Assault and Rape.

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I’ll take good discussion over violence anytime, (as long as it gets some where)! (Anyway I guess being “unarmed” in Australia makes you an easy target.)
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QUOTE (John Clements @ 05-May-2008, 09:10 AM)
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Australia passed a law outlawing all but single shot long guns and required registration of those.  The last I read, violent crime had increased in Australia by 26% since gun control became effective.  Every one gets to choose how much risk they are willing to take.

Slàinte,     

Patch

I believe Australia was populated by transported Irish, much like the US. Hmm. Doesnt that sort of explain all the violence? rolleyes.gif

I believe that Australians was populated as a British prison colony. There was a diversified group from all of the British Empire. The increased violent crime I am talking about came after gun control was imposed. The Irish here settled mostly on our East coast. It does not explain the unusually high crime rates in California. (a gun control state) As the UK passed more stringent gun laws their violent crime rate increased even more than Australians. Their problems are now greatly attributed to Muslims. By violent crimes that would be Murder, Assault and Rape.

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I’ll take good discussion over violence anytime, (as long as it gets some where)! (Anyway I guess being “unarmed” in Australia makes you an easy target.)
So let’s keep talking,
JC

"Little Italy" in NYC is probably the safest and most polite place in America. No one knows who is packing! I have intervened in violent situations several times, ending in extreme distress to the perp. It was comforting to know you could "up the ante" if necessary. I know three women who were victims of sexual assault. All three changed their views on gun control. I helped one of them pick a firearm to carry. I have a family member who was stoped it traffic. A person broke the passenger window out and took her purse at gunpoint. It will not happen again!

Most people do not want to kill anyone. Except maybe there are a few police officers who do. However there are those who place NO value on human life. If you have the misfortune to meet one, do you want to forfeit your "valuable" life for theirs? I do not and will not!

You would be suprised at the people who are anti firearm but own them and "carry"

I am just getting started.

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QUOTE (Camac @ 05-May-2008, 07:17 AM)
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Nova Scotian; If I might be so bold as to remind you that had it not been for French intervention you would have lost the Revolution and your Founding Fathers
would have hung for treason. So don't thank God thank the French.


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Yes, it is true, they did help.  However, twice we ensured that they didn't have to learn to speak German.

Slàinte,   

Patch

Sometimes I think it might have been better to let the French learn German.

Camac.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Good one! I know what you mean.
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