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  Posted: 13-Jun-2003, 12:52 PM
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Been listening for a while, Do you allow your broadband server to be relayed? This may allow more people to hear the near cd quality music.



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  Posted: 13-Jun-2003, 04:06 PM
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Hmmm looks like not.

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<06/13/03@15:50:54> [source] creating relay socket
<06/13/03@15:50:54> [source] relay host returned error (ICY 403 Service Forbidden) [waiting 30s]
<06/13/03@15:50:54> [source] disconnecting from relay host [waiting 30s]
<06/13/03@15:51:24> [source] creating relay socketue)
<06/13/03@15:51:25> [source] relay host returned error (ICY 403 Service Forbidden) [waiting 30s]
<06/13/03@15:51:25> [source] disconnecting from relay host [waiting 30s]
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Posted: 13-Jun-2003, 05:56 PM
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Try this thread in the forum might be what your experiancing.

http://www.celticradio.net/php/forums/inde...=ST&f=13&t=1057
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Posted: 13-Jun-2003, 06:32 PM
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First, I think I accidentally deleted the ICY error topic. Argh!! I am really sorry, I was trying to move it to the technical support forum 

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Nope, that?s not what I am talking about. It seems to me that the 64kps server does not allow relaying. In other words, I won't take a signal and rebroadcast it. If the server it self allows people to rebroadcast the signal. Potentially you could get a lot more bandwidth. If people with larger fatter network connections like the music they might rebroadcast the music. The only thing change is who is sending the signal. All the info and songs are feed from the main server.


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I wouldn't try this. I know there has been issues in the recent past with the recording industry and it might cost you or maybe Paul to do this because of copyright issues. But you could always provide a link to the site.

Paul can help you out with links and banners. I know he's had a link page awhile back but don't see it yet in the new site layout.
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This would not show difference in content or music provided. It will just increase the number of clients that would be able to connect. If the music is being broadcast all ready how does increasing the number of clients change the status?
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It like instead of donating money, your donating bandwidth.
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I don't know anything about bandwith stuff - I am just trying to figure out Killthraka's signature "Have you let your monkey play with your root lately?" blink.gif

Judging by the gopher icon he picked for his name, I am guessing it is about the monkey-pox outbreak. If that is the case, you should change the signature to say "Have you let your monkey play with your prarie dog lately?" laugh.gif


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Well like I was saying if it's what I thinking it is it could possibly be considered another radio station and have to be paid for. I know for a breif time I had some tune in butons on my own websitye (Granted was through this website) but even those had Paul concerned some because of all the new restrictions place on stations due to the Recording industry (RIAA) mad.gif

But who know Paul might have a better handle on this.
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QUOTE (Killthraka @ Jun 13 2003, 01:52 PM)
Good day,

Been listening for a while, Do you allow your broadband server to be relayed? This may allow more people to hear the near cd quality music.



Cheers,

Killthraka

Hi Killthraka!

Seems that you are knowledgable on this streaming stuff! So if someone else had another shoutcast server setup then we could relay the stream to that server and then provide more bandwidth? Will it show up as "cluster" in the shoutcast listing?

That is what we are doing with the modem stream because we raised so much $$ we actually have an extra 20 slots until the 28th as a carry over from the older service we are using.

Please tell me more details.

As far as listener slots, eventually all of our services will cater to independents and we will have a musician database with agreements directly with the artists thereby by-passing the RIAA and any other entity.

As far as donations, I would be very agreeable to a donation of bandwidth. I am going to have a bit on our donation page about this in the forth-coming weeks.


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Hi,

The way it works if your sever allow to be relayed. It allows people who have servers to act as a realy for your music.

Give me a shout on MSN, or send me an e-mail at [email protected]


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The rat looking thing is a Beaver. The quote well if your a server admin or work with Linux or UNIX type systems it makes sense. A net monkey is someone who working in the industry and Root means you are the server administrator with the power.


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Killthraka? Could it also be an oblique reference to your origins? I sense you're a fellow canuck. Beaver's are the Canadian err..animal, (rodent?) and "Roots" the incredibly fashion-worthy folk who design and create the Canadian Olympic team wear, just maybe all connected? or maybe its your email .. shaw.ca? All clues say yes!

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Canada yes,

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QUOTE (Macfive @ Jun 14 2003, 08:25 AM)
QUOTE (Killthraka @ Jun 13 2003, 01:52 PM)
Good day,

        Been listening for a while, Do you allow your broadband server to be relayed? This may allow more people to hear the near cd quality music.



Cheers,

Killthraka

Hi Killthraka!

Seems that you are knowledgable on this streaming stuff! So if someone else had another shoutcast server setup then we could relay the stream to that server and then provide more bandwidth? Will it show up as "cluster" in the shoutcast listing?

That is what we are doing with the modem stream because we raised so much $$ we actually have an extra 20 slots until the 28th as a carry over from the older service we are using.

Please tell me more details.

As far as listener slots, eventually all of our services will cater to independents and we will have a musician database with agreements directly with the artists thereby by-passing the RIAA and any other entity.

As far as donations, I would be very agreeable to a donation of bandwidth. I am going to have a bit on our donation page about this in the forth-coming weeks.



One of your streams is set up to do it. If you change your broadband stream to allow relaying it would allow other server Admins who want to share there bandwidth to relay your signal. It?s in the sc_serv.conf file; all you need to do or have done is change 2 lines.

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; AllowRelay determines whether or not other SHOUTcast servers will be
; permitted to relay this server. The default is Yes.
AllowRelay=Yes
Change this line to Yes

; AllowPublicRelay, when set to No, will tell any relaying servers not
; to list the server in the SHOUTcast directory (non-public), provided
; the relaying server's Public flag is set to default. The default is
; Yes.
AllowPublicRelay=Yes Change this to yes as well

; MetaInterval specifies how often, in bytes, metadata sent.
; You should really leave this at the default of 8192, but the option is
; provided anyway.
MetaInterval=8192


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Once this is done Server Admins or those who have bandwidth to share can donate their bandwidth.


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