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Posted: 13-Mar-2007, 10:03 PM
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I am considering making my own set of Ogham sticks using all of the correct woods, but I am having trouble locating some varieties. If I were to post a list of woods I need, is there anyone who might be interested in helping me gather them?


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Posted: 13-Mar-2007, 11:02 PM
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Posted: 13-Mar-2007, 11:41 PM
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Very little in the way of wood out here on the Rez, but I'd be glad to try, Wiz.


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Posted: 14-Mar-2007, 07:38 AM
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if i could find a way to get it across the border...we got lots!!


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Posted: 14-Mar-2007, 09:11 AM
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Keep us posted on the progress of this. Very interesting.
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Posted: 14-Mar-2007, 06:33 PM
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Okay, for those of you who are not familiar with the ogham, there are twenty letters in the ogham alphabet, each represented by a type of tree. There are twenty. They are:

Birch (Got it!)
Rowan
Alder
Willow (Have a piece of weeping willow - not sure if thats the same)
Ash
Hawthorn (I've got a piece, but its the thornless variety)
Oak
Holly (Got it)
Hazel
Apple (Got it)
Vine
Ivy
Broom
Blackthorn
Elder
Pine or Fir (Got it)
Gorse
Heather
Aspen
Yew

Some of these - oak for instance - are common where I live, but I don't know exactly where to look to find one or - in some cases - just don't have ready access.

Anyway, what I need is a relatively straight piece of each, around 3 inches long and 3/8 inch thick (a little thicker than a pencil).

Any help anyone can offer would be GREATLY appreciated! Let me know if you have any questions about these, and pm me for my mailing address. I will be glad to reimburse for shipping costs.

Thanks, everyone!
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Hrm...

Might be able to do hawthorn. Ditto Rowan, I can't remember offhand which one is at my parent's house.

Aspen is another possibility.

I sincerely have no idea where anyone has any heather that is old enough to have that kind of wood-stock. That one's gonna be a pain for ya.

Yew is a possibility. I'll have to see if my housebrothers are playing with making bows again.
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Posted: 15-Mar-2007, 07:45 AM
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is rowan the same as what we call mountain ash?? i'm headed back home (n.b)beginning of may so i can hunt and gather, if you have them then you'll have extras(i hope!!)
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Posted: 15-Mar-2007, 01:18 PM
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Hawthorn I have!
Alder you need someone from the Great NW to supply.
Weeping willow should suffice.
The Oak should be from the British Isles, not the same as ours.
The Yew could be subsitited with Osage Orange.
Vine as far as I have been able to find out is Wild Grape. ( I have that too ).
The Heather could be substituted with Lavender or prehaps Sage ( I have both ).
Hazel is a southern wood, good luck there.
I am still researching this for you and will post any findings I come up with.

Wiz PM me with yoyr addy if you want what I do have.

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What type of Ivy is it? We have English Ivy (in spades!), and I'd be glad to look for a suitably thick length for you. Now the Elder - is that the same as Elderberry? We have that too, easily sent if you need it.

So how's your list now? What do you still need?


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haynes9 - Thanks for the offer! If you see something on the list that you can get for me, I would be very greatful!

sisterknight - Yes, according to what I've been able to find, rowan IS the same as mountain ash! I'd be grateful for a piece if you could send it!

Sekhmet and Dreamer 1 - Thanks for the offers! I really appreciate your help on this!

Shadows - Man, you are a lifesaver! Thanks for your help on this! Do you know the answer to Dreamer 1's question? I couldn't find anything.

Stoirmeil - I will gladly keep you updated. As a matter of fact here is an update now. I have not been able to get out lately to look for anything, but here is what I have been offered here.

Birch - Got it
Rowan - Offers from Sekhmet and sisterknight
Alder
Willow - Got it - Have a piece of weeping willow
Ash
Hawthorn - Got it - Have a piece of the thornless variety - Offers from Sekhmet and Shadows
Oak
Holly - Got it
Hazel
Apple - Got it
Vine - Wild Grape - Offer from Shadows
Ivy - English Ivy - Offer from Dreamer 1
Broom
Blackthorn

Elder - Elderberry - Offer from Dreamer 1
Pine or Fir - Got it
Gorse
Heather - Lavender/Sage - Offer from Shadows
Aspen - Offer from Sekhmet
Yew - Offer from Sekhmet/ Osage orange offer from Shadows
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Posted: 19-Mar-2007, 09:35 PM
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Shadows, one of my sources says that grapes are not native to the British Isles, so it is more likely that Vine is actually blackberry or another sort of bramble. What do you think?

Also it is possible that Ivy could be honeysuckle. I also read somewhere that it could be mistletoe, but I can't find the source to verify right now.

One book suggests that Broom could also be interpreted as Reed, but I don't think so.

Anyway, is anyone else interested in helping? Let me know if you are!

Thanks again, everyone!
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I can get you SCOTCH broom when I go to my Mother-in-law's, but I do not know if that is the same as "Broom". Let me know.


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Posted: 20-Mar-2007, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE (WizardofOwls @ 19-Mar-2007, 10:35 PM)
Shadows, one of my sources says that grapes are not native to the British Isles, so it is more likely that Vine is actually blackberry or another sort of bramble. What do you think?

Also it is possible that Ivy could be honeysuckle. I also read somewhere that it could be mistletoe, but I can't find the source to verify right now.

One book suggests that Broom could also be interpreted as Reed, but I don't think so.

Anyway, is anyone else interested in helping? Let me know if you are!

Thanks again, everyone!
Allen

Ivy might just be english ivy ( I have that too ), mistletoe no, it is not so much a vine.
Broom being reed is posible but it could very well be broom straw.

I am still researching this for you freind!

Also if I am not mistaken these woods need to harvested when the sap is down if you are going to use for divining.


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Posted: 20-Mar-2007, 06:11 PM
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From my research Elder and elderberry are not the same. I think it is boxwood a very common wood to the isles of the time. I don't have any of the size you are looking for.
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