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Posted: 27-Jan-2006, 08:54 PM
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http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?p=glob...&icp=1&.intl=us

a couple items from the links i posted

Is man-made global warming a scientific fact?

No. Most scientists agree that the Earth’s atmosphere warmed by about 1°F (0.6 °C) between 1850 and 1940, then cooled enough to make many scientists worry about another ice age, and finally warmed slightly since 1980 in Siberia and a few other high latitude areas. However, the Earth was much warmer 1000 years ago, during the Medieval Warm Period. In fact, when Leif Ericson colonized Greenland in 980 AD , it really was green. But by 1300, the world had entered what historian James Burke calls the “frozen centuries,” which lasted until the middle of the 19th
century. In other words, catastrophic man-made global warming is only a theory. It is not supported by evidence, and is backed up only by a few computer models and vast amounts of heated rhetoric.


Is global warming melting glaciers and polar ice caps?

No. The World Glacier Monitoring Service says most glaciers have been receding for some 150 years, since global temperatures began rising around 1850. How ever, since 1989 (when global warming theory argues that more glaciers should be retreating), half of 627 mountain glaciers the Service has been measuring have been advancing. The West Greenland glacier – the largest block of ice in the Northern Hemisphere – has grown seven feet in depth since 1980, according to a paper in Geo physical Research Letters. Claims that open waters were observed in the Arctic Ocean for the first time in recorded history were retracted after the U.S.
Navy pointed out that this happens every summer, and a melting Icelandic glacier turned out to be due, not to global warm ing, bu t to volcanic activity beneath the glacier.


Is there a scientific consensus that global warming is real?

No. An American Viewpoint poll found that a majority of U.S. state climatologists disagree with the statement that “human activities are already disrupting the global
climate.” By a 44% to 17% margin, they stated that global warming is a “natural phenomenon,” and 60% say reducing man-made carbon dioxide will do nothing to prevent global temperatures from rising. Indeed, more believe there is a
better chance of another “ice age” than global warming. A study by the Meteorologisches Institute Universit at Hamburg and GKKS Forchungszentrium targeted 400 climatologists in Germany, Canada, and the U.S. Only 23% in Canada, 13% in Germany, and 3% in the U.S. “strongly agree” that the “global warming process is already underway.” Nearly 100 scientists have signed the Leipzig Declaration, expressing their doubts about the validity of computer-driven global warming forecasts. And Over 17,000 scientists (including hundreds of climate experts) have signed the Oregon Petition, saying they see “no convincing scientific evidence” that humans are disrupting the earth ’s climate. The truth is, there is less consensus today than there has ever been.


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QUOTE (dundee @ 20-Dec-2005, 10:23 AM)

RE "FRICKEN"  LAX!!!!!!!!

Couldnt be bothered reading all the malarky bout global warming. yeah its serious but we'll all probs be 6 feet under by that point. i agree with the re "fricken" lax person. also u aint a penguin so chill
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There was an interesting interview on 60 Minutes last Sunday with a NASA climatologist who's supposed to be one of the most eminent experts on the subject of global warming. The point of the interview, and it was brief, was that every public statement this individual makes has had to be edited through the White House. He's also not allowed to speak to or interview with any person or group without approval. The edits were shown on the program and consisted mainly of the watering down or elimination entirely of anything approaching a definitive statement that global warming is occuring.

The individual in question decided on his own to do the 60 Minutes interview to speak out on his own findings. Still he had a NASA representative off camera as a monitor. Something rotten here? Question: how can a democracy function if access to information of vital public interest is censored? Doesn't a democracy function only if information is readily available to make informed decisions?

Incidentally he predicts we have about 10 years to seriously alter our output of greenhouse gasses before warming reaches a "tipping point" (his term) and the situation will be out of our control. More info:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/17/...in1415985.shtml


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Posted: 22-Mar-2006, 05:15 PM
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ohhhh please take it to the political forum... i do not subscribe there anymore...
it started with a joke.... frusty.gif people cant even have a laugh without someone taking it to serious. AYYYYYEEEEEEE beer_mug.gif beer_mug.gif beer_mug.gif beer_mug.gif
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