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Posted by: CelticRadio 29-Aug-2008, 08:06 PM

We need your help.

Today, Mozilla Firefoxed assigned a web forgery warning to CelticRadio.net. This is a slandereous abuse which was probably instigated by an unhappy member of CelticRadio.net who might have caused problems in our community forums.

We are contacting Mozilla via live chat right now to clear this matter up, but we may need our members to help us contact Mozilla and report to them that CelticRadio.net is not a phishing site.

Our web site has absolutely no phishing schemes and our server is rock solid and secure. An audit review of our web files indicates no unauthorized access or creation of any files other than our own.

We will keep you posted of our dealings with Mozilla and will advise further action that might be needed by our members to remove this mistake that Mozilla has made.

Posted by: CelticRadio 29-Aug-2008, 08:29 PM

We have been in touch with the folks at Mozilla and they have informed us this report is through Google and is only effecting the forums. We can assure you our forums are clean.

We will post more details soon.

Posted by: subhuman 29-Aug-2008, 09:15 PM

Please keep us informed. While I've never dealt with Mozilla's blacklists, I have worked in the past to get innocent parties removed from other blacklists.

Posted by: jesstuss 29-Aug-2008, 09:17 PM

Phew. I got the forgery info before I saw this post. Let me tell you though, browsing while this going on is difficult- You need to tell it on every page that it's not forgery.

Bleh. Hopefully you can fix it soon. Stinks though about the idiots that make the rest of our lives difficult.

Posted by: CelticRadio 29-Aug-2008, 09:30 PM

Ok, here are the details.

Mozilla stated that Google is reporting our community forum site as a "Web Forgery" which means that we are trying to portray to be someone else. (kinda of silly!)

A check of Google webmaster tools shows that our site is clear of all issues, whether it is phishing, forgery or scams.

Regardless, this error message only appears in the latest version of Mozilla Firefox and not Internet Explorer. While we have built the site to use both browsers, we do recommend our members to use IE.

Any suggestions or help would be much appreciate so we can get back to focusing on working on our site!

Posted by: CelticRadio 29-Aug-2008, 09:47 PM

Ok, this is were we could use everyones help.

Please visit this site by McAfee:

http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/celticradio.net

And you will see that we are 100% clean as reported by McAfee.

Then visit this page:

http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/report_error/?tpl=mozilla

Enter our webaddress, the little confirmation letters and submit.

And report our site as safe. Thank you for your help!

Posted by: jesstuss 29-Aug-2008, 10:06 PM

QUOTE (CelticRadio @ 29-Aug-2008, 11:47 PM)

Then visit this page:

http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/report_error/Captcha?id=2776346673014309561&tpl=mozilla&hl=&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Ftools%2Ffirefox%2Ftoolbar%2FFT2%2Fintl%2Fen%2Fsubmit_success.htm&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.celticradio.net&captcha=&dq=&submit=Submit+Report

And report our site as safe. Thank you for your help!

OK Mac,

I had tried this even before you mentioned it-- for me anyway, it kept asking for an endless transcribing of nonsensical words. I'd enter one and another one would come up. They're easy enough to read... I don't know what gives. Hope this feedback helps-- if other people are having the same problem as me, it might mean it takes longer to clear celticradio's good name.

I'll come back tomorrow when it's fixed. Again, it stinks that you have to deal with this.

Posted by: CelticRadio 29-Aug-2008, 10:13 PM

You can also go into Tools-=>Options and add to exceptions: celticradio.net and celtichearts.com and check off "tell me if this site is a web forgery". Restart Firefox and the message will go away.

I hate those confirmation letters too!

Posted by: subhuman 29-Aug-2008, 10:31 PM

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Regardless, this error message only appears in the latest version of Mozilla Firefox

It can appear on older versions if people are foolish enough to trust Google to decide where they can and cannot websurf.

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we do recommend our members to use IE.

Screw that. Sorry to disagree with you so bluntly.

Here's a better recommendation for those who enjoy using a browser that is:
more secure
cross-platform
open-source

Click on "tools"
select "options"
click on the "security" tab
switch from "check by asking Google about each site I visit" to:
"Check by using a downloaded list of suspected sites"

Unfortunately, the Mozilla organization sets Google to be the default authority on accuracy of websites for the same reason Google is here at celticradio.net- both Mozilla and MacFive need Google's money to stick around. Commercial entities may be necessary partners, but that doesn't mean they're your friend.

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hey're easy enough to read... I don't know what gives.

Some of those are case-sensitive.

Posted by: CelticRadio 30-Aug-2008, 06:37 AM

QUOTE (subhuman @ 30-Aug-2008, 12:31 AM)

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Screw that. Sorry to disagree with you so bluntly.

Here's a better recommendation for those who enjoy using a browser that is:
more secure
cross-platform
open-source

No problem. I've tried to make the site cross browser compatible as encouraged by Aaediwen. Think it is just my own frustration with this issue.

Posted by: iolanda 30-Aug-2008, 06:40 AM

QUOTE (CelticRadio @ 30-Aug-2008, 04:47 AM)

I've done as you said, Paul.
I'm gone on "Report our site is Clean" and obviously I wrote all the best about CelticRadio, as after all is in reality!!!
This new has gave me a fright, how is possible to be so idiot?
Why do tell something of so perfidious?
But, I'm sure Paul that everything will resolve in the better way, because the truth always bobs up!!

I hope to listen good news about , before that is possible .
Thanks for everything, CelticRadio...

Slàinte

Iolanda

Posted by: John Clements 30-Aug-2008, 08:24 AM

I was wondering why McAfee Security flashed me a warning yesterday? That CR may be trying to collect personal and financial information on me, (indicating a potential scam in the works).
I must say I found it unsettling, give my disapproval with the direction this “so called society” is heading in.

Not unlike a God, Big Brother sees, and knows all.

JC

Posted by: gaberlunzie 30-Aug-2008, 09:24 AM

I got the same message by Opera today telling me that this site was on their Black List and so was set under highest warning level.

Posted by: Rindy 30-Aug-2008, 09:33 AM

I have been on the site a lot in the past two weeks haven't had any alerts on McAfee. I do use IE

I did go to the site and report us as a clean site. I hope this all clears up quickly. This site is the BEST!

Slainte

Posted by: Shadows 30-Aug-2008, 09:44 AM

I use Zone Alarm Security Suite, NO warnigs from them... I also have an anti-phishing program running, no message there either, I use IE7 and am ready to use IE8 when the beta testing is finished.

Posted by: Robert Phoenix 30-Aug-2008, 09:45 AM

There have been no problems or warnings on my end. I didi have some trouble with IE shutting down but it was something to do with my printer. Hope you get it cleared up.

Posted by: Leelee 30-Aug-2008, 11:49 AM

Submission of a Clean Report has been completed. No warnings thus far on this end

Posted by: CelticRadio 30-Aug-2008, 11:56 AM

Thanks for everyones help. Just to ease your concerns about cookies and warnings from security software.

The cookies we use are needed to make the site work. They store your login information on your computer so when you come back you don't have to log in. We also use cookies for some of the menus, to pass information from page to page.

There is nothing to worry about - all of our code is safe. Your more than welcome to have our address and telephone number - in fact it is listed in our monthly newsletter.

The source of this bad information is google. Strange as it seems that google is now tracking this information and blacklisting innocents sites. We will be calling their offices on Tuesday for sure.

Even so, the error message about "website forgery" is so silly! We are try to forge CelticRadio.net?

I do appreciate everyones help on this to clear our name from this list. It appears this was added after someone contacted Google or their organization http://www.stopbadware.org.

Also, the above member has not contacted us again after repeated emails about this subject. Up until this issue we had receive many emails from him, so while I have no proof he caused this, I am really leaning towards the fact that he is very likely to be involved in this.

Just to restate, this issue is only effecting Firefox and Opera users. IE is not effected.

Thanks again everyone.

Posted by: gaberlunzie 30-Aug-2008, 01:37 PM

I never thought of this site of being involved in any "unclean" activities: of course I sent a clean report.

Posted by: ogdenmusic 30-Aug-2008, 03:51 PM

The only thing unclean about this site was probably my request for sports questions on trivia nights. Anyways went to McAfee and all is clean. Thanks as always.

Posted by: merle 30-Aug-2008, 07:08 PM

I reported to Google that Celtic Radio is a 100% safe site but let me tell you something weird. My MSN Spy Sweeper is blocking access to Microsoft as it says it is a known spamming/spy cookie site!

Posted by: deedee 31-Aug-2008, 07:44 AM

I reported to Google, too. Sometimes you just have to stand up to bullies!

Jo

"Logic merely allows one to be wrong with authority."
The Doctor

Posted by: Camac 31-Aug-2008, 08:10 AM

I reported to Google also and commented on what kind of security system they were running taking someones word and not doing a proper investigation before posting such warnings or allegations.. Told them politely to remove their head from where the sun don't shine.

Camac.

Posted by: Lady-of-Avalon 31-Aug-2008, 12:31 PM

Hi Paul,
I've send out a piece of my mind to Google as well today, especially that today I feel like killing someone well couldn't be a better time to vent it on them...

Don't let me get my hands on the S.O.B that did this....

P.S.Never received anything from anyone about this site being a scam yet.

LOA

Posted by: CelticRadio 31-Aug-2008, 02:23 PM

This is the best community on the internet! I am happy to report that Google has swiftly removed that warning message.

We are convinced this is because of all of the reports everyone here made. Usually they don't do this sort of thing over the weekend and especially holiday weekends. So our thanks to everyone for helping us out.

It really does expose a serious flaw though in Google's monitoring of sites. While this warning message would not have much of an effect short term on our site, if someone was running a website that was their lively hood, that would really have a financial effect on them. T

hat is not too good for Google to have all of that power. I have always been a pro - google person, but I am thinking that perhaps this exposes a serious flaw in allowing one website to control too much of the flow of the internet.

Thanks again for everyones help!

Happy Labor day weekend!

Posted by: Lady-of-Avalon 31-Aug-2008, 02:46 PM

I've threatened them to change my Google search engin for another quite seriously and that I would suggest it to my corporate office as well.

Don't know if it had an impact or not jsut felt good to piss them off my own way...

Glad it's over and done.
LOA

Posted by: Rebecca Ann 31-Aug-2008, 05:25 PM

What is "phishing"? I got that same warning. Problem is it isn't only here with CelticRadio but also on LDS MOMS and a few other perfectly safe sites. This message has knocked me out of here and other good places. It seems to put up a block or firewall in places that are good places. Seems to me this warning and block is coming from someone that doesn't want us to have good friendly places to go. I would say it was maybe an upset member but seeing as it is happening on other sites, including a few school sites, it has to be coming from outside the group.
RebeccaAnn

Posted by: jesstuss 31-Aug-2008, 09:59 PM

QUOTE (subhuman @ 30-Aug-2008, 12:31 AM)

It can appear on older versions if people are foolish enough to trust Google to decide where they can and cannot websurf.

Click on "tools"
select "options"
click on the "security" tab
switch from "check by asking Google about each site I visit" to:
"Check by using a downloaded list of suspected sites"

OK, foolish is not the same as not knowing where to go to change the option, or even knowing it exists.

Thank you. Learned something new.

Posted by: subhuman 31-Aug-2008, 10:59 PM

jesstuss-

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OK, foolish is not the same as not knowing where to go to change the option, or even knowing it exists.

Sorry, you're right- foolish is a bit harsh here.
Older versions of Firefox, Google wasn't the default "authority" on what sites you can visit- so I assumed anyone who changed it, did so intentionally.
Well, we all know what assumptions do...

Again, I'm sorry to anyone I offended by that comment.

I've been anti-Google for many years. Anti-"Any Group that Has Too Much Control" for that matter. If this incident opens a few peoples' eyes, in my opinion it's a good thing.
CRN was only blacklisted for a short time, so as Mac said, probably no real harm done here- and maybe some good will come out of it.
The unfortunate reality is that Mac probably needs Google's money from their ads to keep this place running, so unless some wealthy benefactor comes along he's probably pretty much stuck with them.
It takes a lot to run a site like this. A lot of money, a lot of hardware, and most of all- a lot of time.

Rebecca Ann-

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What is "phishing"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing
The original site itself may be perfectly safe, but phishing usually involves someone making an identical-looking counterfeit site, then redirecting users to the counterfeit site in order to acquire their personal data.
"Social networking sites are a target of phishing, since the personal details in such sites can be used in identity theft; in late 2006 a computer worm took over pages on MySpace and altered links to direct surfers to websites designed to steal login details. Experiments show a success rate of over 70% for phishing attacks on social networks."

LoA-

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/me cheers for joy!

I recommend dogpile.com
Not a search engine itself, they're a metasearch engine- meaing you pose your query to them, and they contact Google, Yahoo! Search, Live Search, Ask.com, About, MIVA, LookSmart, and more- then return those results to you.
One-stop-shop for searching.
What disturbs me most is your company using them- especially if you have the Google Toolbar installed on work PCs.
The Google Toolbar, while installed, reports back each and every webpage you visit to Google. With a corporate intranet, at least half the security comes from outsiders not knowing it even exists. (hard to crack what you don't know exists)
While Google themselves may not make use of this info, data has been stolen from them in the past. This opens a major security hole for your company.
Not to mention for anyone who does any person transactions- online banking, etc- on their work computer.