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  Posted: 12-Nov-2002, 12:03 AM
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Ok, it is 1:00 A.M. here and I should be in bed, but I can't sleep and was pondering this question which I hope someone has a quick answer.

For what reasons did Ireland not become part of the U.K. I understand that the Union Jack Flag is based on the Wales, Scotland and England flags, but why did Ireland's flag never get incorporated.


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Posted: 12-Nov-2002, 04:14 AM
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Sorry Mac, youre wrong about that,

The Union Flag incorporates the white diagonal cross, (or saltire), of St Andrew, for Scotland, on a blue ground, the red cross of St George, for England, on a white ground and the red diagonal cross of St Patrick, for Ireland, on a white ground.

It is in fact the Welsh flag which is not incorporated.

Here's the official explanation
http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/page199.asp


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Posted: 12-Nov-2002, 04:38 AM
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Awwwww, you beat me to it, WG!
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Posted: 12-Nov-2002, 09:57 PM
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Quote (Welsh Guy @ Nov. 12 2002,05:14)
Sorry Mac, youre wrong about that,

The Union Flag incorporates the white diagonal cross, (or saltire), of St Andrew, for Scotland, on a blue ground, the red cross of St George, for England, on a white ground and the red diagonal cross of St Patrick, for Ireland, on a white ground.

It is in fact the Welsh flag which is not incorporated.

Here's the official explanation
http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/page199.asp

Ahhhh...so that explains it. Now is Ireland still considered part of the United Kingdom? And if not, should they not remove the red diagonal cross of St Patrick?
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Posted: 13-Nov-2002, 03:02 AM
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NORTHERN Ireland is still part of the UK (or issit part of Great Britain, but not part of the UK?  I always forget!;).  This is the six northern counties of the island of Ireland where, predominanly, the Scots-Irish are/were centred.  The rest of the island of Ireland - ie Eire - is of course an independent state.
               
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Posted: 13-Nov-2002, 04:10 AM
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Hi Catriona, yes you're right "United Kingdom" includes Nothern Ireland "Great Britain" does not.

The official title of the country is "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northen Ireland".
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