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Posted by: RavenWing 10-Oct-2003, 12:06 PM |
Tell me what you think here |
Posted by: scottish2 10-Oct-2003, 02:20 PM |
I say yes and regulate it. IUt's as bad as Alcohol yet they already tried outlawing that and it didn't work. But if some person wants to go home and smoke their brain dead why is it then the government can control something their doing in the privacy of their own home? Now if they go out treat it just as they would an alcohol issue. Obviously their both just as dangerous yet ones allowed and the other isn't and the drug issue is overloading our jails with 1st time offenders and taking up space for the real criminals. |
Posted by: Richard Bercot 10-Oct-2003, 02:29 PM |
I do not have a problem with the Legalization of Marijuana. Even though I have never used it (Honestly). I do not see what the difference of the effect in either Marijuana or Alcohol. An Adult should be able to judge for themselves and responsible enough to know how to handle it. Again this falls into, I do not like others telling what I can or can not do. The choice should be mine. I also feel that minors should not be allowed it's use as in Tobacco and Alcohol, because most of them are unable to make a qualified choice. If you noticed I said most not all. I even know some Adults that fit into this category. |
Posted by: RavenWing 13-Oct-2003, 07:46 AM |
I agree with both of you. I think it was put on the planet for a reason, and it has too many positive uses to completely illegalize. |
Posted by: scottish2 13-Oct-2003, 07:51 AM |
Plus how much is wasted on trying to police it????? |
Posted by: RavenWing 13-Oct-2003, 07:52 AM |
Most of the people "policing it" are using it themselves. It's pretty well known around here that the cops have the best weed. |
Posted by: Richard Bercot 13-Oct-2003, 01:14 PM |
If memory still serves me correctly. Marijuana used to legal in the United States and was made illegal during the time of Prohibition. It doesn't change the fact that the Puritan state of mind still exists here. However what they think and what the do are two different things. For example: In the township where I live, it is a dry Township. Even though most of the people that live here consume alcohol, they just don't want others to know it. (Closet Drinkers). My Father taught me that everything has a purpose and has a cure. I still hold onto that today. |
Posted by: Shadows 13-Oct-2003, 01:47 PM |
Everything in creation has a purpose, it is when that purpose is misused that trouble begins. The Creator put the herbs of the field as well as the beast of the woods here for our use, it is how we use them that becomes the question... Marijuana is not bad! It has aquired this reputation due to the criminality that has become associated with it's use. I am a child of the '60s and will say openly that I have used "pot"! I am now in my 50's and no longer partake because I could lose everything I own if caught! As with everything in our lives moderation and understanding are a must... what gives anyone person or group of people the right to determine what is good for others? Every soul on this planet has the right to make choices for themselves, so why do others feel they have the right to interfer? Govern yourself and not others! |
Posted by: scottish2 13-Oct-2003, 02:04 PM |
That's why I personally have problems with religion. To many in my opinion want to push their religious views and beliefs onto others instead of letting them chose for themselves. |
Posted by: Shadows 13-Oct-2003, 02:15 PM | ||
You will not draw me into a religious discussion here, I believe that everyone has the right to make discissions based on their beliefs and "NO ONE" has the right to determine if they are right or wrong except the god/gods of their beliefs. Government is a man made thing and has no rights in the realm of spiritulism! Nor does it have any rights in personal choice...!!!! |
Posted by: High Plains Drifter 13-Oct-2003, 02:35 PM |
Looks this isn't a very controversial subject with this group. Everybody seems to think pretty much as I do. It seems that policing marijuana use is just one more example of our government using an outdated sense of morality to conduct business. Logically one would think that legalizing and taxing pot would be the only choice to make. We wouldn't be wasting money trying to enforce unenforcible laws and we be creating legitimate jobs and putting money into the coffers and it wouldn't cost me a penny only those that use. Now the user pays and so do I. |
Posted by: MDF3530 13-Oct-2003, 03:28 PM |
I would be in favor of legalizing marijuana if it is modeled after liquor. Make it an age-restricted purchase, and it can only be purchased at licensed establishments. Also, I think legalization would act as a deterrent by removing the taboo. Some people live their lives by the motto "if it's legal, it's not fun". |
Posted by: scottish2 13-Oct-2003, 03:59 PM |
Yeah seems to me as well a lot of us in this thread do agree FOR THE MOST PART. |
Posted by: maryellen 13-Oct-2003, 05:49 PM |
Getting back to marijuana... I voted no. I do not agree with the argument that just because alcohol is legal then mairjuana should be too. This is based on the premise that everyone is responsible. If you want to smoke and drink in your house, fine, I have no problem with it. But, when many others are drinking and driving, or getting high and driving, then it affects everyone. |
Posted by: scottish2 13-Oct-2003, 06:22 PM |
That's fine but you have to admit the current drug enforcement is a joke to say the least as it is not getting the proper job done. Instead of taking off the street those that sell they take off the street those that buy. There are a lot more buyers out there then sellers. I mean personally I have never used the stuff and never would but tired of seeing tax money get wasted on inefective programs. |
Posted by: High Plains Drifter 13-Oct-2003, 09:18 PM |
People are out on the streets behind the wheel as I write this that are higher than kites on pot and it is illegal. Why not put some controls on the sale of weed and put the illegal sellers of it out of business. |
Posted by: scottish2 14-Oct-2003, 04:35 AM |
And as someone said earlier in this thread make it legal and it might lose some of it's mystery and appeal. People break the law because their told they can't do something allow them to do it and the challenge is gone. |
Posted by: MDF3530 14-Oct-2003, 03:32 PM | ||
<----That would've been me . |
Posted by: maryellen 14-Oct-2003, 04:40 PM | ||
But it is illegal to kill another person and people don't do that just because it is illegal. there are lots of things illegal that people do not do. (*maryellen's disclaimer* I am always addressing the topic, not the person or any group. Some people are getting way too personal in other threads.) |
Posted by: scottish2 14-Oct-2003, 04:56 PM |
But there is a difference as killing effects another persons right to life. How does someone smoking a joint effect you? How does someone drinkg alcohol effect you? |
Posted by: maryellen 14-Oct-2003, 05:31 PM |
As I said previously, it affects everyone when people start doing that and then they get into their car. Then, they kill people. It has happened many times. |
Posted by: MDF3530 14-Oct-2003, 05:42 PM | ||
What we're talking about is the largest illegal drug trade in the US out of business by hitting them where it hurts the most-the pocketbook. With their customers flocking to places to buy it legally, they will have two choices: get out or go legit. When the US repealed Prohibition, the bootleggers were out of business inside of six months. |
Posted by: scottish2 17-Oct-2003, 05:00 PM |
exactly! |
Posted by: maryellen 17-Oct-2003, 05:04 PM |
But, same as alcohol, you will not have changed the outcome: families destroyed and drivers killing people in their cars. |
Posted by: scottish2 17-Oct-2003, 06:05 PM |
But how about the people who run from the law afraid to get caught with drugs? I have been watching this cops show recently and how many high speed chases end up killing people because a person runs afraid to get caught with the stuff? Legalize it and you might cut down on some of the highspeed killer chases. |
Posted by: Shadows 17-Oct-2003, 09:07 PM |
There are an almost equal number of traffic fatalities caused by elderly drivers... should we make being old illegal too?? OOPS! maybe I should not suggest that since I am on the down hill side of youth! LOL!!!! |
Posted by: scottish2 17-Oct-2003, 09:17 PM |
yeah might get yourself in trouble. |
Posted by: Shadows 17-Oct-2003, 09:27 PM |
OHHH! I am used to trouble !!!!!! |
Posted by: Keltic 17-Oct-2003, 11:35 PM |
The marijuana laws in Canada are testing the waters of decriminalization (not legalization) which means that it isn't a crime to have a small quantity for personal use and the use of marijuana for medical reasons is legal. The problems with legalization is that the government wants to take over the supply to those who need it for medical reasons and we all know what happens when government gets involved. After a couple of million dollars to create a grow operation, the government finally managed to get some of the plants to grow. Those who bought the marijuana ended up trying to return their purchase due to the inferior quality. The government at the same time is burning seized plants from illegal growers that know what they are doing. Another problem as stated by the police is that now that there is a law stating how much a person can have in his or her posession, the police don't have any flexibility in how they deal with individual cases. In most cases in Canada, they would let people off when they were picked up with small quantities. |
Posted by: Mayte2 20-Oct-2003, 02:39 PM | ||
Or should that be .. How many Police are `wasted` trying it??? (hahahahahahahahaha) ... Still laughing ... hahahahahahahaha |
Posted by: scottish2 20-Oct-2003, 03:00 PM |
Yeah that sounds about right as well. Seems those that are suppose to be enforcing the laws break them more then the normal person. For instance you ever see a cop give him/herself a speeding ticket? ROTFLMAO |
Posted by: MDF3530 20-Oct-2003, 03:21 PM | ||
I've heard of cops doing illegal things while on duty too. Not just shaking down federal agents posing as drug dealers either. About four or five years ago, a Chicago cop died while on duty, but not from any gunshot wound; she'd been drinking when she was supposed to be on patrol and crashed her squad car. She got lucky IMHO. Even had a funeral with full honors, while a few days before, an off-duty cop was killed when he went John Wayne and tried to nab an armed robbery suspect without waiting for backup. |