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oldraven |
Posted: 03-Aug-2007, 12:17 PM
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The Protector of the Unknown
Group: Scotland
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Joined: 20-Oct-2003
Zodiac: Hazel
Realm: Guysborough Co., Nova Scotia
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QUOTE (BrengaAstur4me @ 03-Apr-2007, 05:44 PM) | asturias and galicia are most certainly celtic nations, read a history book or look it up |
Nice first post.
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Caw "I am a Canadian by birth, but I am a Highlander by blood and feel under an obligation to do all I can for the sake of the Highlanders and their literature.... I have never yet spoken a word of English to any of my children. They can speak as much English as they like to others, but when they talk to me they have to talk in Gaelic." -Alexander Maclean Sinclair of Goshen (protector of Gaelic Culture) We need more Stan Rogers. jams
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0Ash0Tree0 |
Posted: 09-Feb-2008, 02:52 PM
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Honored Clan Member
Group: Celtic Nation
Posts: 86
Joined: 09-Feb-2008
Zodiac: Reed
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish
The Scots that settled (some unwillingly) in Northern Ireland are called Ulster Scots. I did an Irish Studies minor in university...it finally comes in handy. lol
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Many times man lives and dies Between his two eternities, That of race and that of soul And ancient Ireland knew it all.
" To a Scot, the past clings like sand to wet feet, and is carried about as a burden. The many ghosts are always a part of them, inescapable." Geddes MacGregor
Hope, fear, false-joy, and trouble, Are these four winds which daily toss this bubble, His breath’s a vapour, and his life’s a span; Tis glorious misery to be born a man. ~ from a Cornish gravestone
"Now I perceive the devil understands Welsh.” "God defend me from that Welsh fairy, Lest he transform me to a piece of cheese!” William Shakespeare quotes "Onen hag Oll", One and All (Cornwall's motto)
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Boudica |
Posted: 21-Mar-2008, 09:18 PM
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Peasant
Group: Celtic Nation
Posts: 6
Joined: 02-Feb-2004
Zodiac: Vine
Realm: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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I think I see where there might be some confusion coming in to play here. The Ulster Scots and the Irish that settled in Dal Riada are two different groups separated by a few hundred years.
The Ulster Scots are indeed from Scotland. They were Scots that emigrated and settled in Ulster starting around 1600. They mostly came from Galloway, Ayrshire, the Border, and the Lowlands. There is a really cool museum near Omagh in Northern Ireland the the Ulster-Scot Agency has. http://www.ulsterscotsagency.com/
The Irish that settled in Dal Riada came over much earlier. Clan Lamont's (on my da's side) first recorded Chief is Sir Lauman in 1235. My da's had the genetic tracing done and he is indeed descended from Niall of the Nine Hostages, the progenitor of the Uí Néill in Ireland. The connection between Lamont and Ulster can be seen in the symbol for Ulster and the Lamont clan badge. Both feature a raised left hand.
This second group is the one that is credited with intermarrying with the Picts and settling in Scotland.
It's really easy to get confused with the history of the Celtic Nations! All I can recommend is to read, read, read, and then read some more. And get your butt over there if you can. I was there with my family in Sept 2006 and we're going back next year for the Gathering. And in a few years, I'm moving there!
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Twelve men and a piper make a rebellion. - Scottish proverb
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Jermy |
Posted: 21-Jan-2010, 10:06 AM
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Group: Celtic Nation
Posts: 49
Joined: 15-Jan-2010
Zodiac: Holly
Realm: Pilsen, Czech Republic
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Not seeing a Czech flag as a 'Celtic Nation', I thought I'd post here Folks often ask us (and quite reasonably so) 'What's a band from the Czech Republic doing playing Irish, Scotttish and Breton music?' and our answer is usually, 'Well, apart from it being bloomin lovely music, Celtic-ness is deep in the heart of this country'. There are remains of Celtic settlements and hill forts here, and, well, we have Czech bagpipes too! All the best from Jeremy and Poitin.
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