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Posted: 24-Apr-2010, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE (Patch @ 24-Apr-2010, 09:42 PM)
Soooooo?

Soooooo . . . I believe in objective and impartial investigations six months after the fact -- actually, getting closer to a year now -- like I believe in the Easter Bunny. I expect this to be a sop pointed toward acceptance of the new administration. In any case, I do not expect the decision making heads of the military to catch much more than a slap on the wrist. We shall see.
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Posted: 25-Apr-2010, 11:58 AM
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Steven -

Your CNN, Hill and Rasmussen reports refer to surveys of Tea Pary members, not the majority of Americans. The bullet points on the Rasmussen Report survey even specify that. The only post which defends your point is the Pew Research link. Of course I can also post reports suggesting the opposite. The Pew report says its survey was taken in March. A Gallup poll shows a 50% approval 43% disapproval rate of Obama as of April 2010.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-d...b-approval.aspx

Since public opinion is based upon the actions or lack thereof of governments, they're fluid and ebb and flow in response to those actions, yes?

Here's Patch's comment which I made fun of, specifically the clause in which he says "the majority of all Americans......do not trust him or his policies either." He of course is speaking about Obama:

"Obama's words and deeds have caused a great majority of those who voted in the last election to loose trust in him. That is why we have so many D's supporting the Tea Party movement and also, a majority of all Americans, including those who did not vote in the last election, do not trust him or his policies either."

The approval/diapproval of government as a whole is distinct from that of Obama.




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The approval/diapproval of government as a whole is distinct from that of Obama.

That is not how the D's who have joined the Tea Party movement feel.
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Posted: 25-Apr-2010, 01:20 PM
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The approval/diapproval of government as a whole is distinct from that of Obama.

That is not how the D's who have joined the Tea Party movement feel.

First of all, and as always, how do you know that so definitively? But that's just academic.

Second -- how can anyone who is paying attention to the bloody, muddy trench warfare of passing a bill or appointing a justice these days possibly believe that? The only reason to pretend to believe it is to support a rigid "the end justifies any and all means absolutely" position. Which, granted, seems to be a Tea Party axiom.
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We simply ask them.
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Posted: 25-Apr-2010, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE (Patch @ 25-Apr-2010, 02:04 PM)
QUOTE (Antwn @ 25-Apr-2010, 01:58 PM)


The approval/diapproval of government as a whole is distinct from that of Obama.

That is not how the D's who have joined the Tea Party movement feel.

Assuming you do know what they feel (a stretch at best) you're only talking about 14% of a group which consists of 24% of Americans, according to the Rasmussen data posted by stevenpd. That may be significant in your world, but is not statistically significant beyond it.
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QUOTE (Patch @ 25-Apr-2010, 03:22 PM)
We simply ask them.

rolleyes.gif OK, if you say so. I know that must be a very big and time-consuming job . . . and how about the second question:

Second -- how can anyone who is paying attention to the bloody, muddy trench warfare of passing a bill or appointing a justice these days possibly NOT believe that "[t]he approval/diapproval of government as a whole is distinct from that of Obama"?
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Again we ask them why they decided to join the movement.
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