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Posted: 08-May-2006, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (Shadows @ 05-May-2006, 03:46 PM)
I wrote this letter to my representitivs after the Columbine incident several years ago. It states my opinion.

Dear esteemed senator:
I write this letter to speak my mind. I am appalled at the violence that is happening in our nations schools. I question the direction that the youth of our country are taking. I also am appalled that the people of this great country can stand still for more gun laws. Our right to bear arms is being eroded by these laws. How can anyone stand for a national registration of all firearms ( this lets the government know just where to go to collect weapons if it feels threatened; I think that we should view Bosnia and other areas that have had upheavals and killings for the sake of a country as an example of what could happen if these rights are gone). I am the father of 6 children four of which are in their teens. They have been taught respect for life and the safe handling of fire arms.
I question more the violence on the television ( where someone dead one night is back the next) and I also want to know how many of these kids that are committing this violence have their own T.V.s and play violent games on their Nintendo's and play stations!? Where is the control here!!! How many of these kids do not have parents at home when they need them to be?
How many were raised by a day care provider and not their own parents. I do not want to hear the excuse that it takes two incomes to live today; my wife and I have raised 6 kids with just me working until the last 4 years and my oldest just graduated college this spring. I am not rich or upper class in fact I earn a lower middle class income. YOU JUST HAVE TO SET YOUR PRIORITIES; and OUR CHILDREN SHOULD BE 1ST!!! We do not eat out but maybe twice a year, we do not go to the movies once a month, we do not drive a new car every 3 years; but we are there when our kids need us !
Let us set up a system where parents can and should be responsible for their own. Not a system where no one is responsible. If this means changing lifestyles, let us make it easier to do. If this means one parent staying at home to raise the kids, make it easier. These are the things that have changed from the generations of the past. Make it illegal to put parent responsibility on the schools and daycare providers. Make it illegal to publish violent games, make it illegal for people not to take responsibility for themselves and their own!!!!
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Do not make it illegal or difficult for me to own, use, teach my children to use or purchase the only thing that can and has protected this great country of ours from tyranny and given us the liberty we so much pride ourselves on!
I take a saying from the past " If it is a crime to own firearms, then only criminals will own them.
Let us learn from the past and make the necessary adjustments to our life styles to raise caring and responsible kids and adults not more limiting and freedom robbing laws.
I hope and wish that you will share this letter with those that make these laws and with the nation.

Make it illegal to put parent responsibility on the schools and daycare providers. Make it illegal to publish violent games, make it illegal for people not to take responsibility for themselves and their own!!!!

I copied this out of your letter, Shadows, after quoting it.

If I misunderstood this line, let me know. However, I think it's pretty clear that it asks for the publishing of violent games, I am assuming video games, to be made illegal. This was stated in the same sentence as asking for it to be made illegal for people not to take responsibility for themselves and their own.

Please explain how I misunderstood this.


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Posted: 08-May-2006, 04:53 PM
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You , as most people do, take one phrase from a whole concept out of context and make it the issue.
I suggest you again read the whole letter.
If it is over your head then so be it, but my arguments are sound.
The absurity of more gun laws is equal to the unlikely hood such legalities mentioned being enacted.


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Posted: 09-May-2006, 08:08 AM
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Posted: 09-May-2006, 08:11 AM
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Since you don't choose to answer me directly and instead have decided to call me an idiot and laugh in my face I'll drop the issue. Whether this is simply due to a lack of ideas on the issue or lack of respect for my opinions, I don't know.

It's obvious to me that the idea of video game censorship isn't an issue taken seriously here.
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Posted: 09-May-2006, 09:54 AM
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CC, why should video game censorship by taken seriously here if it is not taken seriously by congress? That pesky old first amendment tends to get in the way and the industry contributes so much money in taxes and bribes (aka "Campaign Contributions") that the topic is unlikely to ever generate much serious consideration.

It might worth a separate thread if you want to discuss it, though.

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I belive that the responsibility for the video games lies with the PARENTS. If they did not let the kids buy them or play them this would not be an issue. But Billy wants it and whines for it and the dumb-ass parents cave in. THAT is the biggest problem with most kids these days, no one ever told them NO! before. Well guess what kiddies, it's not about what YOU want so shut up and get over it!


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QUOTE (Dogshirt @ 09-May-2006, 08:40 PM)
I belive that the responsibility for the video games lies with the PARENTS. If they did not let the kids buy them or play them this would not be an issue. But Billy wants it and whines for it and the dumb-ass parents cave in. THAT is the biggest problem with most kids these days, no one ever told them NO! before. Well guess what kiddies, it's not about what YOU want so shut up and get over it!


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That's how it works in my house. thumbs_up.gif And my kids respect me enough (at the moment) to not play those games at someone else's house either. I allow them to play some teen games (they're 8 and 9), but not until I check them out first! So until a teen game gets put on my "ok" list, they do NOT play it anywhere. They'll even come home from a friend's house and say, "Johnny has such and such game. It's a teen-rated game, can we play it?" I either find someone who has it and I go check it out personally, or I rent it and check it out myself before I allow it. But then again, I'm a parent that cares and keeps my nose ALL UP in my kids' business! laugh.gif


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Posted: 11-May-2006, 07:51 AM
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Not to change the subject, getting away from video game violence, do everyone here remember the movie from the 1970s, "Death Wish" with Charles Bronson? I think of that movie and think, did he really do anything illegal? No in sequel movies ti got stupid but in the original, he was right on the money. The only thing he did wrong was run away.

Now here's something ironic, here in Florida, the guy who's responsible for issueing concelled weapon permits name is Charles Bronson.


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Posted: 15-May-2006, 12:45 PM
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Gun control, yes. The only reasons I need are the overwhelming statistics of violent gun crimes in Canada, or should I say the lack thereof. Gun registry? Hell no. It's a huge waste of time and taxpayers money, that has no positive effect on those statistics I pointed at before. The only people restricted and restrained by a registry are the law abiding citizens.


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Posted: 15-May-2006, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE (oldraven @ 15-May-2006, 01:45 PM)
Gun control, yes. The only reasons I need are the overwhelming statistics of violent gun crimes in Canada, or should I say the lack thereof. Gun registry? Hell no. It's a huge waste of time and taxpayers money, that has no positive effect on those statistics I pointed at before. The only people restricted and restrained by a registry are the law abiding citizens.

I would say that the police should certainly be considered in a lack of violent crime in Canada Adam (I haven't seen the statistics) But I have seen Cops - the Canadian version and they aren't near as nice to criminals up there smile.gif Tell it to the Crown!

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QUOTE (oldraven @ 15-May-2006, 01:45 PM)
Gun control, yes. The only reasons I need are the overwhelming statistics of violent gun crimes in Canada, or should I say the lack thereof. Gun registry? Hell no. It's a huge waste of time and taxpayers money, that has no positive effect on those statistics I pointed at before. The only people restricted and restrained by a registry are the law abiding citizens.

Hey Raven.
Glad to hear from you again. You hit it right on taget Adam. Controling guns never controls the criminals from obtaining weapons. Just look at history. Controling guns are not to prevent crime but for political control.
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QUOTE (oldraven @ 19-May-2006, 10:10 AM)
Whatever works, right. wink.gif

By the way, welcome back home to the "New Nation". I'll be up in Spencers Island at the end of August until mid September. The wife and the little one as well as myself are looking forward to it.
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Just something I was thinking of. If you carry a gun, I say God forbid I EVER have to use it. But God forbid I'm ever in a sitituation where I needed it and didn't have it. Just a thought that I live by. But the far left seem to think anyone who owns a Gun is "a red neck" "a hill billy" "a barbarian" "a facias" However if these morons did their research they'll find that they are the ones for outlawing guns and that in and of itself is fascias. So WHO is really the fascias? Anyway I guess being a Celt is barbian enough so I take that title with honor.
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My thing about guns is I don't trust people to own them. I'm sure everyone on here is responsible with their guns, but I just don't trust the general public to use a gun wisely.

Heck, cops shoot people they shoudln't and it gets in the news all the time. So people who are trined specifically to carry weapons in dnagerous situations misuse guns. I'm not saying it happens alot, nor even enough to warrant gun control. But I am saying I don't trust joe blow off the street to handle a firearm, concealed or otherwise, responsibly.
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