Israel--current Events

You just better watch who you're calling a racist and a biggot! My family is Middle Eastern! Thank You! My best friend is a Muslim Kurd from Iran. So until YOU KNOW ME enogh to call what you will GET IT RIGHT.

You know Dog or Emmet both don't wan't to answer the question if they know anyone who was born in the Middle East since Israels birth.

So you think that they'll leave us alone if we stop supporting Israel?

We didn't have this problem BEFORE Isreal. What makes you think they WON'T?

Hey Emmet.

What's the deal with the name calling? I realize this quote was not mine, but I happen to take a literal view of the Scriptures myself. I don't mind at all entering into a reasonable and even heated discussion, but the name calling is pretty junior high.

Dogshirt and I probably disagree on virtually every political issue, but I don't recall us ever getting into accusations of bigotry and racism.

I happen to live on the Navajo Nation and I do so on purpose. Feel free to check with the folks I work with and find out if I ma racist. I don't think you're a jerk for disagreeing with me. That's fine. You have a right to your viewpoint. Can we do so in a manner that is respectful?

Hummmmm. Well lets see. What happened a few mounths ago when those cartoons of Mohammad were published in Denmark? Denmark doesn't send troops to the wars against them. However because of a few cartoons a few nations broke off diplomatic relations with Denmark. On top of that in Seria, Lebanon and other places, they burned the Danish, Swedish and Norwegin embassies. So yes you are right. It's only Israel. Lets not talk about what the Turks did to Armenia. The Turks said it's the Muslim duty to wage war on the non Muslim nations. At that time the whole reagon was Ottoman controlled and after WW1 they lost big. There is a whole lot more but I asked it once and I'll ask it again. Do you know anyone who lived over there? Obviously you know nothing about the Middle East mindset.

Actually I do, including Palestinians and Lebanese.

Well so do I they're my family who consist of Palistinian, Jordanian, Lebanese, and Syrain. They will all tell you the same thing I've been telling you. Leaving them alone and stopping the support of Israel will never stop those psycos Muslim extreamist who are hell bent on world domionation of Islam. One of my best friends who is a Muslim Kurd from Iran agrees.

Plus while we are at it Dog, how about those cartoons in Denmark? We all saw how those folks reacted. I've seen worse pictures drawn of Jesus and I don't see the same thing happening anywhere and if anything does happen it is usually so small its not noticed.

"long before Israel became a country again, many Arab tribal chieftans sold off to Jews from around the globe land thast they thought was worthless desert and swamp but the Jews engineered the land to make it fertal. Then the Arabs turned around and tried to say that they the Jews stole it!"
"God is on the side of Israel... Israels very existance today was forseen in the Bible."

"these Muslims are hell bent on the destruction of Israel and hate them passionatly. Israel has tried to move on peacefully in the past but it's these Muslim freaks who won't let that happen. How can you bargin with people, Muslims..."

"What you don't get is these people don't think like we do here. It's a totally different mindset these Muslims have. I KNOW!" Nova Scotian

rac·ism noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

big·ot noun
a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Not "name calling"; merely an observation, based upon Nova Scotian's own broad, sweeping, inaccurate and less-than-complimentary overgeneralizations, and the common usages of the terms according to Merriam-Webster.

If the jackboot fits...

"long before Israel became a country again, many Arab tribal chieftans sold off to Jews from around the globe land thast they thought was worthless desert and swamp but the Jews engineered the land to make it fertal. Then the Arabs turned around and tried to say that they the Jews stole it!"
"God is on the side of Israel... Israels very existance today was forseen in the Bible."

"these Muslims are hell bent on the destruction of Israel and hate them passionatly. Israel has tried to move on peacefully in the past but it's these Muslim freaks who won't let that happen. How can you bargin with people, Muslims..."

"What you don't get is these people don't think like we do here. It's a totally different mindset these Muslims have. I KNOW!" Nova Scotian

rac·ism noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

big·ot noun
a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Not "name calling"; merely an observation, based upon Nova Scotian's own broad, sweeping, inaccurate and less-than-complimentary overgeneralizations, and the common usages of the terms according to Merriam-Webster.

If the jackboot fits...

Don't try to justyify what you said! I don't care if you disagree with me but offend me which was what you seemed to be trying to do, I don't take that very well. I don't call ANYONE names in here! YOU were wrong in what you called me! Don't try to justify it in the meaning of the words.

Not "name calling"; merely an observation, based upon Nova Scotian's own broad, sweeping, inaccurate and less-than-complimentary overgeneralizations, and the common usages of the terms according to Merriam-Webster


Inaccurate? Obviously YOU don't know anyone who has had to live overthere!

So, you're saying that if I used precisely the same fallacious reasoning (or lack therof) to so broadly paint Jews, or Christians, or Blacks, or Hispanics with the same nasty brush, the terms "bigot" or "racist" wouldn't come to mind, or is it only properly applicable to Muslims and/or Arabs?

I realize this may be out of place here in this discussion , but I came across this
and it seems to be in line with the original topic here.


Lebanon's Premature Liberalism "This is not Norway here, and it is not Denmark." --Lebanese Christian militia leader Bashir Gemayel.


Worth reading.

Leo

Emmet, I'm intrugued. You seem to have educated yourself quite extensively on what you view as Israel's atrocities, while trying to generate a comprehensive list of the military capabilities for them and others in the region. I wonder, have done an equal amount of research on the various Muslim groups and their atrocities? We all err in lumping them in under one title..."terrorists." There are many sources out there, but I would like to know if you are even aware of the breadth and scope of violence perpetrated in the name of Allah. Also, I'm very curious about your signature. What does it mean?

Here, if you do not already have a source to use, try this one.

For any that choose not to click on my link, the list quotes a line from the Qur'an: