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Independence Of Alba, Say what you think about Freedom of Alba
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Posted on 20-Nov-2006, 03:43 AM
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Being half Scottish, I love Scotland but I don't think it needs to be independent to express itself. Being a British citizen is far more beneficial and the Nationalists are passionately blind.
In my opinion, England does need to open up more to our Celtic cultures, though Scotland chose to be part of the United Kingdom with James VI / I and I doubt Scotland's modern claims to be Celtic. A fierce pride is sweaping Ireland, Wales and Cornwall to keep our languages alive.
The Scottish including my father have no care for Gaelic and care more for Scots, which, let's face it, is just English written to reflect the Scottish accent. English written to the reflect other accents are regarded to be unprofessional and almost ignorant, why is Scots any different?!
If you asked my father "Should Alba be independent?", he'd probably reply, "Where's Alba?" My mother would have more of a clue of what Alba is thanks to her Welsh, so why do the Celtic nations not support each other more?!
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Gwlad, gwlad, pleidiol wyf i´m gwlad Tra môr yn fur I'r bur hoff bau O bydded i´r heniaith barhau
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Posted on 06-Aug-2008, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (TMcAdams @ 06-Aug-2008, 12:09 PM) | FREEDOM |
TMcAdams;
I'm all for the independence of my birthplace it is long overdue. Scotland when independent will still be part of the United Kingdom, still a member of the Commonwealth and there will still be no border between the rest of Britain. Scotland will join the EU and the UN and maybe just maybe I pray reinstate the Highland Regiments the English have so blatantly disbanded or amalgamated.
ALBA GU BRAUGH.
Camac.PS. Read my poem "The Red Lion of the North" in Celtic Hearts.
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Posted on 08-Aug-2008, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE (Turkceltic @ 06-Nov-2005, 01:00 PM) | Actually ,i thought about this and decided to open it in here cos although the topic includes politics , thats about scotland and specifically about scottish people thats why i put it in here .But it realy doesnt mind wherever it is 4 me ...
About style of independency , as u know " the freedom don't given ,its taken " And people of Scotland will take it from England who hold the sovereignty. thats not going to be with peace and democracy - England never want a free scotland near of him.First thats realy dangerous situation from strategly ,second that'll be example for other nations and GB can collapse after all. Be sure, if there will be an referandum for Freedom, definitely wont be fairy ! So fight will be the only solution ! - At last ,if scotland can be free , UK 'll be its biggest rival! Maybe Ireland and Scotland going to establish a ConFederation (as like first formation of USA ,and feature it turns to Celtic Federation ,thats better solution i think. |
I think you need to get your view of the UK into this century. It's not England.
The people of Scotland are free. Your view of the situation appears to be far more Turkish than British. Take that however you feel, but I think the last thing anyone wants is to see Scotland 'fighting' with the UK (themselves), or England, as you put it. Least of all the Scots and English.
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Posted on 08-Aug-2008, 08:30 AM
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oldraven; I see Salmon has set the date as 2017 for total Independence. Hope it happens . The only thing that will really change is the Tax revenues will all stay in Scotland along with a bigger share of Oil royalties.
Camac.
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Posted on 16-Sep-2008, 08:34 AM
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DesertRose;
I understand how you feel and maybe in some respects you are right,but for those who are like me, born in Scotland and raised in Canada and have many many relatives in Scotland the situation is different. I myself long for the day when the "Jack" is replaced by the "Saltire" and the unequal dominence by England is repalced with a true partnership.
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Posted on 06-Feb-2009, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE | It should be recognized as its own soverignty |
Well that's the thing, with James I & VI being the King of England and Scotland the Monarch of Great Britain is the sovereign of Scotland as well as England and Wales too (who can forget the Welsh?). If Scotland became independent of England they would be saying "We don't want our king/queen anymore." I am not a native of Scotland, I am Scots-Canadian, so I am not up to date with Scottish politics, economy and general public opinion, I am just putting in my say to the question asked. As has been pointed out, Scotland is a separate nation from England and Wales all of which make up the Island of Great Britain and the United Kingdom. In the past England, like America, in order to conquer and subdue the neighboring people smother the culture of the natives with their own.
Therefore in my opinion Scotland should remain under the monarch of the United Kingdom, but they should have more autonomy of their parliament and recognize their own culture which would make them more independent from the shadow of England without actually rebelling like the colonies of the New World *cough* *cough*.
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