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Posted: 13-Sep-2004, 04:12 PM
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How many of you have experienced moving between the plains of existence?
Have you ever been out of your body?

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Posted: 14-Sep-2004, 04:12 AM
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I would say yes, that every time I write, every time my mind wanders, would be such an instance. To say that I have seen my physical body from a second or third person perspective, no. But I do regularly experience what I believe to be alternate planes of existance. Where physical form is optional at most, and certain constraints we experience here do not exist. Or at least they don't exist to the same degree.


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~Absolutely! I have been 'out of body' so to speak~ Never in limbo, but, traveling 'high above' all else~ My first experience occured when I discovered Transcedental Meditation~ One becomes so 'free' that no amount of gravity can conquer the force of 'moving between planes of existence'~ Transcedental Meditation is the most intense, my opinion only, when 'done' in water~
~During my vision quests I become 'absent' from the physical body/shell I use~ It's a must for the 'quest' to be sincere, pure and intense~ It is necessary for the body to be 'empty' because during a vision quest the body is 'purified/cleansed' during the tyme that the mind and spirit are 'elsewhere'~
~'Moving between planes of existence' occurs for me in both Meditation and Vision Quests
~ Vision quests are all about the 'planes' that we know exist (Mother Earth) and, those never before ventured (plane closest to the Sun)..the only way their knowledge is ever known is, like the layers of Mother Earth, 'answers, solutions, deeds, goals, etc.' are 'shown' in pieces~ Each plane offers a new 'piece' of the quest~ In layers of sorts~ Once the spirit and mind returns to the 'shell', in unity, the quest is realized~ angel.gif Could take several vision quests on different occasions or several intense days and eve's in a row~
~Transcendental Meditation offers me keener insight into the planes I have experienced..this is my opinion only..like so many things in life, each person is going to have a different experience and a different 'view'~ Meditation helps me 'keep check' of 'experiences' and what I can 'do' with those experiences~ I have several successful problem solving issues taken care of during Meditation~ Moving 'between planes of existence' during Trans. Meditation is a 'mind-strengthening' exercise that is helpful before a 'healing'/smudging/journey~ sleep.gif
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  Posted: 27-Feb-2009, 04:23 PM
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I undertake the Imrammic meditations: is that the kind of thing you interested in?


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Posted: 27-Feb-2009, 10:36 PM
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Oki, when I went on my vision quest my spirit left here for a nuetral place waiting for my helper. It was there that Bear came to me and told me secrets to help me in life. By following these Bear has taught me the way to live life and make my way in the world.


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Posted: 28-Feb-2009, 04:01 PM
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I have enormous respect for, and quite a bit of interest in, old shamanic traditions -- enough respect, in fact, to be quite wary of the whole experience, much as I was always wary of potent hallucinogens and never experimented with them. I have read that fearful is not the way to go into nonordinary reality. Does anyone have any thoughts about that?
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Posted: 28-Feb-2009, 04:06 PM
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I believe we all have everytime we dream. Our dreams are just another realm we travel, see we have the realm of fear, happiness, truth, and fantasy. But no matter what we are dreaming we are traveling through another world.
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QUOTE (marthien @ 28-Feb-2009, 04:06 PM)
I believe we all have everytime we dream. Our dreams are just another realm we travel, see we have the realm of fear, happiness, truth, and fantasy. But no matter what we are dreaming we are traveling through another world.

Here is something for you to ponder:

What if your dreams were reality and you reality really dreams...
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Shadows;

If my dreams are reality; then I am truely dead and condemned to Tartarus.


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Not so much different planes of existence, as different states of mind. I have not experienced anything that convinced me that I left my body; and so I believe that when we dream, meditate, and what have you, we are exploring different areas of our own mind, not the outside world (or Otherworld, for that matter).
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QUOTE (Camac @ 03-Jul-2009, 06:34 PM)
Shadows;

If my dreams are reality; then I am truely dead and condemned to Tartarus.


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And I've been dating celebreties, and clearing forests at the same time for no apparent reason....
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You know, I felt like Marthein sort of jumped in and answered my question about this is a very general way, that was not altogether to the point, last Febraury. I still want to know more about this from any who have actually attempted or achieved shamanic flight in the oldest sense, or know more about it. And actually, I don't think in this context that it is productive to draw such a such a hard line between ordinary dreaming and something more, or one's own mind (as if it is necessarily bounded to one's own cognitive platform of the brain) and something beyond it. For the sake of the discussion, at least -- you understand.

Camac -- you got to lay off that Pepsi before bed. Oh -- I have noticed lately that a strong preparation of vitamin B complex before bed (one capsule or tab of the "high-potency" variety you can get in any health store) makes dreams more frequent and more vivid, and also more likely to be remembered. This is do believe is a brain effect, since the B complex vitamins are of the first neurological importance -- but again, why attempt to cut off the productions of the lone brain as being outside any larger contact by definition? For the sake of the discussion. smile.gif
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QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 04-Jul-2009, 07:54 PM)
I still want to know more about this from any who have actually attempted or achieved shamanic flight in the oldest sense, or know more about it. And actually, I don't think in this context that it is productive to draw such a such a hard line between ordinary dreaming and something more, or one's own mind (as if it is necessarily bounded to one's own cognitive platform of the brain) and something beyond it. For the sake of the discussion, at least -- you understand.


Have you read "Journey's Out Of The Body" by Robt. Monroe? Its one of the most interesting and non hocus pocus accounts of his OOB experiences ( to the degree that's possible). I know, not someone you can talk to here, and not an official shaman - but still.

http://www.amazon.com/Journeys-Out-Body-Ro...49351884&sr=1-1


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Yes, I've believe that I experienced an OBE.

It was late at night, I was trying various ways of leaving my body or experiencing astral projection. My concern was to remain breathing while out and about. As I recall, my senses for my arms went first. This provided a little confidence to proceed further.

I then felt this sense of freedom as I seemed to move up through my head and I found myself about 50 feet above our house looking down through the roof at everyone. I knew what had happened so I thought to do a little experiment. I went to my sleeping son and found that our thoughts could become one, which startled me at the ease of doing this. Upon which, I returned suddenly to my own body just as I left it.

I thought that the experience was very interesting. The ability to move and see through things was fascinating. The entire experience was troubling from the standpoint of being able to integrate my mind with someone with ease. That's a responsibility I don't need.

A flight of fancy? Possible. But the experience was real enough to me. I have directed bad dreams and have changed their outcome, never to experience them again. I find the mind to be much more than people give credit for, hence I take very little for granted.




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Don't know if this counts as an out of body experience but on 30 Sept. 1969 on a Navy Hospital ship off the coast of Viet Nam at approx. 3:30 in the afternoon I died. Was told I was dead for 2 mins. 38 secs. Don't remember anything just waking up with one Hellova pain in my chest and a bruise the size of a dinner plate where they had pounded on me to restart my heart. The Doctor at the Battalion Aid Station forgot to mark morphine on my evac card so when I got to the Hospital ship they jabbed me again and the old pump said thank you and decided to enjoy the the trip. Last thing I remember saying was no when I saw the syringe. Really ticked me off as I was enjoying a nice morphine high when they jabbed me and put the lights out.



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