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Arianrhod 
Posted: 28-Mar-2004, 09:17 AM
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Water Gardens and koi ponds are really a hot interest for gardeners...
Some hire pros, but my brother in law and I put in a pond at their old house.
I feel it is so much better to do it yourself..

We did our research , and used roofing material as the liner...
it is a bit thicker than you need, but it is leak proof and algie resistant,,
and a lot less expensive..
It is really the same thing.. you just go to a differnt source to purchase it ..

We did it the old fashioned way, dug the hole, three sizes of "gravel" pea was the top layer, then a good six inches of fine sand..
Folded the liner in four , found dead center. and placed it , from there , you start smoothing it on the bottom, then pleating it neatly along the sides, we used a few bricks to hold it on the top at first, that were easy to move about..
Then you start with a few inches of water.. while standing in the pond.. this one was about three feet deep... and this part took us about five afternoons, 3 hours at a time.. add the water slowly walking around and smoothing as you go, we had the rock , flat half inch flags, in easy reach.. when we got the sections smooth, and the sides , pleated tight and neat, we placed the rock,no cement was used.. if something did not fit quite right, we used a hammer to , change its shape smile.gif
we did about 3 layers of rock around the lip..
Make sure you place the fliter and fountain, if you want a fountan hose, down first, so you can work the rock lip around it ..
I have seen treated wood used as a lip as well..

If you want koi, try not to put your pond in the sun... Koi are shipped almost frozen.. they like cooler water.. they can perish in heat.. don't let anyone throw a penny in the pond either, copper kills them !!!
dappled sun is great, you can use water plants for shade for the fish..
We planted around the lip , with fairly mature , low plants to stabilze the lip, but it really settled in nicely...

You can grow anything in a pond , you simply put it in a plastic bucket , that you drill some holes in, a few clean bricks to keep it at the bottom and place in it ...
Cannas look great around a fountain, I like the taller things in the center..
I have done bog plants ..different kinds of palms, its fun, and you can take them in and out ..the cannas with a simple fountain ring around them is spectaular !
At night you can float candles .. very pretty , and the bugs go for the light, and the fish get a free meal, and your guests stay happy !

There are ready made ponds galore, just dig in the shape, add some gravel and sand, and you are ready to go, they come in kits, everything but the labor and water are included.. There are even kettle types on stands, no digging required,
great for decks and patios !

Water plants are lovley... lotus... where else are you going to grow those ?
water hythican , water lettuce..
There are lots of reasons to think about a Water Garden !

Here are some links ..

http://www.vnwg.com/

http://www.lilypons.com/

http://www.practical-water-gardens.com/

http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DM...Water/water.htm

http://www.ces.uga.edu/Agriculture/horticu...watergarden.htm
great do it yourself guide here thumbs_up.gif

http://www.gardenguides.com/gglinks/Water_Gardens/

Every home improvement and garden center is selling backyard pond supplies of one kind or another..
If this is something you might want to add to your yard..
I encourage you to do so ! it is a relaxing , and lovley to look at , and listen to addition ! enjoy!

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Posted: 29-Mar-2004, 08:31 AM
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You are reading m'mind deary! I had planned on putting in a nice size water feature. *AND* doing it m'self. But for me to do it, it would take all season. On top of all of m'other chores. So, I am going to save to have one put in next spring. I just feel that me doing that by m'self would end in me calling in professional help anyways. *sigh* Unless you are coming to Cincinnati??? wink.gif tongue.gif


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We still have lots of young children visiting the house and so the pond that we filled in when the family were youngsters has never been reinstated.

BUT, I've got a wall mounted water feature. It is a stone lion's head which spouts water down from its mouth into a little reservoir and then pumps it up to the top again.... Sounds lovely and cool on a hot summer's day.... but not dangerous in the least (and no leaves to keep cleaning out or algae either!!!)
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Posted: 29-Mar-2004, 09:16 AM
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I have thought about one of those too!!!!! They are nice. I was wanting to put one on the side fence facing the front of the house. Near where the hollyhock is. I have been eyeing one similar to yours, Cat. But instead of a lions head it has the God Bachus (sp) ( I can't remember how to spell his name..is that right... what a bad heathen, I am...LOL!!!!) He has the rams horns on his head with grapes and grape vines around his head.... water comes out his mouth..... I think I need to get that now that we are talking about it! LOL!!!!
Maybe when we get back form the mountains..... king.gif
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Posted: 29-Mar-2004, 10:27 AM
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Bacchus! Two 'Cs'....!

Yes, sounds lovely. I just love the tinkling of the water - cools you down, even on the hottest days!
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Posted: 29-Mar-2004, 10:34 AM
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I am so glad you two responded smile.gif
This was getting a lot of looks, but noone was saying anything..

There are alarms for ponds..if you have kids, I would strongly advise you to get one..
http://www.growitgold.com/resources/poolsafety.shtml

There are many kinds to choose from..there are lot's in the links on the first post

Also with my sisters pond, the local racoons thought it was a Sushi bar
I got some tight chicken wire, spray painted it black, and put it over the pond,
held in place by a layer of stone, worked like a charm, it was almost invisable..
and it added saftey too !

Greek Dionyus ,or Roman Bacchus would both enjoy a shrine in your Garden
Jason ...
but if your going to use these guys, you might want to think of a Grape Arbor .. and wine as opposed to water..
Be great for a party .." Go see Bacchus for a refill"

If you did that, might be easy to get some help with that pond digging !

You know I would come give you a hand, and bring along my 30# pry bar !
But you would have to take me to all the flea markets,, and the Jungle whosies
place..what say you ?

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Posted: 29-Mar-2004, 11:04 AM
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I might very well call you on that dear, Paula. wink.gif
Or we could just make a weekend 'get together' and flea market....
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Posted: 29-Mar-2004, 11:32 AM
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* voice of Homer*
" Flea markets Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"

I know I am going to take at least ONE Friday off work this summer to hit Rodgers
Do you ever go to that one, its a 'fur peice for you and Jody ..
but if you have never been, it is so worth the trip !
Its vast to say the least, and there are auctions, and everything you can imagine for sale ,good funnel cakes too... LOL
I need breakfast !

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I have been talking to my wife about putting in a garden pond with a small series of waterfalls. My yard has a natural slop that would be very suitable. Thanks to all who have posted here for the great ideas on how to proceed. I like doing things myself also, it cheaper and I like doing things my way. (its the stuburn German in me). Now to pick out the plants, anyone ever try Edilweise? If you have, how did it do?

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