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| Posted by: Macrae 28-Jun-2003, 12:35 AM |
| Just wondering what kind of people we are here. |
| Posted by: free2Bme 28-Jun-2003, 05:17 AM |
| Well, I believe in God, so I am not an athiest. I was raised Catholic, but then left that religion to become Baptist. I became seriously disillusioned with Baptists and some of their extreme fundamentalists views so I do not consider myself Baptist either. I guess basically I believe in God but I dont believe in organized religion - is there a category for that? How about I vote "none of the above?" |
| Posted by: scottish2 28-Jun-2003, 07:19 AM |
| Well I voted the atheism vote. But if I had to choose any religion I would most likely lean towards Buddism. Personally I find religion to be a farec that's my view at least of religion. |
| Posted by: Aon_Daonna 28-Jun-2003, 11:02 AM |
| hmmm.. a 0 vote for me, because Agnosticism is no Atheism I am no atheist, I don't deny God, I don't believe in God either... I chose Agnosticism a long time ago because the world today doesn't make me believe in one power that is gentle and forgiving. Agnosticism means not denying God, but also not beliving because there is no proof for its existence. I was baptised and raised as a Protestant and went to a Roman Catholic Kindergarten.. my primary school was a public school but then again my High School and my Lyceum were Roman Catholic again, which made me hate the stiff protocol of the Christian Faith as it is today. I don't like church as an institution but I have no problem to see the architectural achievement "church". I have a deep respect for those buildings because they show as nothing else the evolution of the world as it is today, and not only the western world but as temples and such things of the world in General. I don't mind people believing in a christian God, but I don't like christian wording and justification for things that will have a profane impact on the lives of others. Where that brought as can clearly be seen in the Middle-East... things that go back to the very early days of mankind. Religion is a very dangerous thing, that is what I read out of history. In the wrong hands religion can have devastating impacts. All this represents my view to religion, and not only to the christian faith, although it is the only faith I know as close as I do, from a historian point of view as well as 9 yrs Roman Catholic education. |
| Posted by: Gaelic Bread 28-Jun-2003, 12:24 PM |
Born, baptised, confirmed, married and practicing Christian. Too many great things out there not to be a believing "fan". I guess I'll find-out for sure when I'm six feet under?! For now, I'm confident! |
| Posted by: maggiemahone1 28-Jun-2003, 01:31 PM |
| I firmly believe in God and without a doubt I know He is real! I believe in His son Jesus, who walked upon this earth. I believe in the bible and it's teachings, not mankinds. To me it all so real when I look in the face of a child and see all of God's wonders about me! maggiemahone1 |
| Posted by: Keltic 28-Jun-2003, 07:12 PM | ||
Another Christian here. However, I do disagree with many teachings of the churches and I'm not an overt fan of most religious organizations.
We could replace the word "religion" with guns, automobiles, power, money, frozen stick of butter, etc. |
| Posted by: pawnman 28-Jun-2003, 07:21 PM |
| Well, looks like I'm the only out-of-the-closet Wiccan on the boards. I sorta expected more from a Celtic music site...I mean, many of the Celtic musicians are some form of New Age themselves. I just think that Wicca provides a more, I fumbled for the wording here, understanding? view of the world. Wiccans don't see the need to take up arms against heathens. We don't get worked up about our religion. We are sometimes annoyed at the things self-proclaimed christians do in the name of their God (usually, killing someone who doesn't believe.) I'm not accusing anyone here of any untoward conduct, but christianity, particularly catholicism, has a poor track record when it comes to dealing with other cultures. I would like to stress that Wiccans do NOT curse, hex, or otherwise bring harm to people. We believe that whatever you send out will be returned threefold. If you harm someone, you can expect something three times as bad to happen to you. There are some fairly strict (self-enforced) rules governing what is and is not permissible. Well, this is going on far too long. If anyone's interested in hearing more, feel free to ask, either in the forum, PM, or email me. |
| Posted by: Macfive 28-Jun-2003, 07:25 PM |
| Good Poll. It will be interesting seeing what the mix is after a week. I know that we have received emails from a number of "Wicca" sites wanting to add a link to their site, etc. |
| Posted by: Macrae 29-Jun-2003, 01:29 AM |
| Sorry but I could only pick 10 poll answers! I guess I could have lumped some of them together. I wanted to put "none of the above" but figured someone would comment if they had any questions and they have! I hope no one feels left out! That was not my intent! My reasons for posting the poll were purely selfish. I wanted to see what kind of people were posting here and I wanted to make sure I wasn't posting on a board that I had no business posting on! I also wanted to make sure I was not alone in my beliefs. It has been my experience on some other boards that if religion is brought up it inevitably starts a flame war. It's nice to be around people that share your beliefs and can speak as many, not just one. I see so far that we have quite a variety of beliefs, as I assumed there would be. All things Celtic usually attract all types of people. Celtic history, lore and music tends to lure just about anyone! I appreciate your participation in this poll and it will indeed be interesting to see the results after another week or three. Rath Dé ort! |
| Posted by: Crebain 29-Jun-2003, 05:26 AM |
| My vote should have gone to Agnosticism if it had been possible to vote on that in the poll. So it will be a 0 vote from me.  |
| Posted by: Shadows 29-Jun-2003, 08:04 AM | ||
NAH YE not be alone friend, BLESSED BE! Let me ..."splain Lucy..." I was raised in the Catholic Church by a priest wannabe mother that is now an Episcopel ( or however you spell it ) minister. I found the native american religion ( Wicca being the closest answer I can give) that holds beliefs in Wicca, Shamanism, and Naturalism. I associate with Wiccans and Native Americans and practice a blend of all. Now are ye totally cornfused??? |
| Posted by: pawnman 29-Jun-2003, 01:17 PM |
| Nah, you didn't confuse me. Most of the Wiccans/pagans I know have brought together some blend of beliefs that they admire and follow those. I personally follow the Lord and Lady, Call-the-quarters, fairies and elves type of wicca, especially the three-fold rule and the "Harm none" rede. I don't really know what the originating culture on that is, but I don't think its too far removed from what the druids used to believe (pared down to only two dieties). |
| Posted by: Macrae 29-Jun-2003, 10:11 PM |
| Many of the Celtic druids became Cele Dé. There is still a church for it too. The Celtic Orthodox Church. They have a website which I checked out not too long ago. I'm still not sure if they're all they say. It bears more research to be sure! St. Patrick was once a student of the druid order. This is where he first heard of the Cele Dé I believe. |
| Posted by: Herrerano 01-Jul-2003, 07:41 AM |
| Macrae, Your post made me a little curious, here are some links about the Celtic Orthodox Church, and one about Patrick. Personally, I am Episcopal, but oddly enough, one of those that still believe in things like the Nicene Creed and the interpretation of scripture through tradition. Sadly I am way outnumbered. Of course, down here there are no churches in the Anglican communion at all closer then about 140 miles, consequently for all practical purposes I might as well consider myself Catholic, although Anglo-Catholic would be more apt then Roman Catholic. Celtic Orthodox Christian Church http://celticchristianity.org/ Application Procedure for Céle Dé (Religious Order) http://celticchristianity.org/celedeapp.html The Celtic Orthodox Church in Britain http://www.celticorthodox.org/index.html The Confession of St. Patrick http://www.ccel.org/p/patrick/confession/confession.html Leo |
| Posted by: RavenWing 01-Jul-2003, 08:57 AM | ||||
Ahhh, we have much in common! I was raised Catholic, and some other various X-ian religions. Now, I am a blend of various other pagan religions, but I consider myself Wiccan. I have started to study under my father-in-law (Waya Gadoga - Standing Wolf) in Cherokee Spirituality. It has become one of the most liberating experiances in my life. |
| Posted by: Keltic 01-Jul-2003, 09:05 AM | ||
Could you explain why the 'X'. This is quite disrespectful to all Christians. |
| Posted by: RavenWing 01-Jul-2003, 09:07 AM |
| I mean no disrespect. X in Greek is "Chi" which is used for Christ. I went to Catholic schools, and we used it as an abbreviation. |
| Posted by: Keltic 01-Jul-2003, 09:18 AM |
| I didn't think that you did mean disrespect. This whole forum and the members seem like a very respectful group. I was just more curious than anything because I have seen it a lot. Very interesting explanation! |
| Posted by: RavenWing 01-Jul-2003, 09:23 AM |
| Glad to have helped clear it up. The common beliefs is "talking the Christ out of Christian, or Christmas", and I guess some people may actually be doing that, but not me. |
| Posted by: Shadows 01-Jul-2003, 09:24 AM |
| That is where "Xmas" comes from also. Which by the way...nah I won't go there yet.... |
| Posted by: RavenWing 01-Jul-2003, 09:31 AM | ||
I think I know where this might be going.  |
| Posted by: barddas 01-Jul-2003, 10:05 AM |
| I myself, am also in that Pagan mix Catagory. I have taken various practices and philosophies and use what works for me. Druidism is a hard one to nail down because so little is actually known. There are some practices that have survived the test of time. I normally find that anthropolgu/Archeology studies seem to be the least biased. ( for either side of the coin) druidism and Native American Shamanism share many similarities....and that is where my practice lies.... Along with my magick/lore studies...... |
| Posted by: Macrae 01-Jul-2003, 02:37 PM |
| The Greek symbol for Christ is the "chi rho" ; looks like a lower case cursive p with the X intertwined with it. |
| Posted by: Shadows 01-Jul-2003, 08:57 PM | ||
ASk Standing Wolf if he knows of Rain Crow, chief of the Shawnee. He was a great teacher and friend who has gone to be with the grandfathers. He was my teacher. |
| Posted by: MDF3530 01-Jul-2003, 09:58 PM |
| I am a Catholic and I definitely believe that there is a Higher Power. |
| Posted by: RavenWing 02-Jul-2003, 07:13 AM | ||
I will ask him. Was he a Weepy Man? |
| Posted by: Shadows 02-Jul-2003, 05:24 PM |
| Not sure of what you mean here... if you mean a Shaman then yes, if you mean a shirt wearer, then yes, if you mean an elder who's visions were held as gospel by the tribe , yes. Terminologies differ betwen the tribes. |
| Posted by: Gaelic Bread 03-Jul-2003, 01:43 AM | ||
Holy cow! My Mom's half Shawnee... and I was schooled at the Shawnee Mission! Small world!  That's the beauty of being 3/4 Irish and 1/4 Native American... I can drink like a fish! Problem arises when I have to pass-out either under a tree or in a street! Such conflict in my blood! |
| Posted by: pawnman 03-Jul-2003, 08:19 AM |
| Well, GB, I guess you have to stick to tree-lined streets, huh? |
| Posted by: RavenWing 03-Jul-2003, 09:14 AM | ||
I guess could say a very, very, very old almost Uber-Shaman. I'll give you a better definition later when I can conjugate my verbs better. |
| Posted by: Madweasel 03-Jul-2003, 04:22 PM |
| Is there a category for Other? :grin: I'm a Heathen. Which I view as distinct from say, Asatru. A-S deities, with a fair number of Celtic ones thrown in as well because I thrive on non-conformity. (My hearth goddess is Egyptian. Go figure). |
| Posted by: Shadows 03-Jul-2003, 07:09 PM | ||||
Then the answer is yes! He held the wisdom of the ancient ones and could read souls! He was only able to pass on some of this to me and his son Crow. But he still visits in dreams. |
| Posted by: RavenWing 04-Jul-2003, 06:45 AM | ||
Those kinds of visits are great. My father visits me that way too. |
| Posted by: Macrae 05-Jul-2003, 12:58 AM |
| When I get visited.......it's usually by gas and I'm in the bathroom for hours. AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!! hehe....sorry...hehehehe........whew! hehehehe |
| Posted by: brettzky42 05-Jul-2003, 02:56 PM |
| I hit Christian because that's the one that best applies, but I've been exposed to many flavors of Christianity.... Dad: Catholic Mom: Presby Baptised: Orthodox Presby Confirmed: Methodist Married: Lutheran (Her grandad was a pastor) Kids Baptised: Methodist Currently: Presby If nothing else, I should be able to play a mean game of softball! |
| Posted by: FloweroftheWest 05-Jul-2003, 03:43 PM |
| Very interesting and fascinating discussion stream , i have to say. The first one i read from first to last lol. I think I am still a Christian, tho I am not practising at the moment. I however believe in God, His Son Jesus my Saviour and King, the Bible as it was written (i. e. i hold it for true and without mistakes) and the Holy Spirit as God's representative within every Christian (confused? It's bloody hard to explain the Trinity, best is still one of these to make a real window ye need a frame, glass and a hande ) It is very hard not to believe in God's guidance in my life, and the power of prayer too. I studied 3 years at the Bibelseminar Wuppertal (a bible college), went for a placement in a holiday and conference centre in North Yorkshire (was 2 and a half years there in the community) . From there I went ever so often to Scotland for my holidays and concerts , had some very deep experiences there too (esp. old St. Peters Church in Wick and Dreyburgh Abbey). A meeting with a crazy lass from germany (sorry Inga lol) settled more or less my direction .... and the rest is history , as the saying goes N.B.: If I am saying I am not a practising Christian it just means that I have no contact to a parish church at the moment, and shamefully find it very hard indeed to keep up with my bible readings, but I am living my faith and bear witness rather with deeds than words, tho I am more than willing to give those if required |
| Posted by: barddas 05-Jul-2003, 05:26 PM | ||
Personally, I think that is the best way to do it! Just because someone goes to a worship service does not make them a good (enter type of faith here... )It is far easier to say "well, I go to Church, Temple " or whatever.... It is far more difficult to practice what you believe....  Good for you! It's very nice to hear..... |
| Posted by: Shadows 05-Jul-2003, 09:00 PM |
| I once had a discussion with the Methodist Minister of the church my wifew and kids go to... ( he is a very smart and wise man ). It went sort of like this: minister " Why don't you come to church on Sunday with your family?" me " I attend church every Sunday! While you and those of your flock are in a church built of wood , mud brick, and stone made by man; I am in a catherdal built of wood, mud brick, and stone made by the MAN! You see I go to the top of the mountains and look over all the beauty that the creator has made and stand in awe!!! minister "I stand corrected" This is a true story! |