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Posted by: stevenpd 27-Jan-2009, 10:16 PM
Lord Shenaniganz247 of Kincardine (1:5:1)
Lord subhuman of TheRedeemed (1:3:4)

My Lords,

Since the inception of the game, war has been the only activity that holds everyone's interest. We have battled long and hard against Clan Wolf only because we were attacked first and without notification. One of the common complaints has been the lack of notification. Simply attacking without warning is easy with the advent of the computer. Somehow, this takes the fun out of the game and places everyone on edge thus destroying any possible enjoyment of the game. This is your notification.

Recently, in the forums Chieftain Subhuman of Clan Unencumbered by Democratic Buerocracy and Lord Olorin of Clan Bruce decided to insult one of our esteemed Clansmen. Why they have chosen to insult our Lady of Avalon with such vicious abandon is incomprehensible. It is obvious that satisfaction must be derived. These insults of her have been taken by the Clan MacInnes as an insult to the Clan. This can not stand unanswered.

In the spirit of the game we hereby, unilaterally, dissolve our alliances with Clan Bruce and Clan Unencumbered by Democratic Buerocracy. With this dissolution there are no alliances that we have with anyone.

Clan MacInnes hereby declares war on Clan Bruce and Clan Unencumbered by Democratic Buerocracy. We will be attacking randomly and without any further advanced notice. This is done in the spirit of the game and in no way is meant to be personal. We hope that you will receive this in the spirit that it is offered and enjoy the war. Regardless of the outcome, may the best Clan win. Good luck.

stevenpd
Chieftain
Clan MacInnes
(1:3:7)

Posted by: Dogshirt 28-Jan-2009, 12:36 AM
Ohka'pssi kaahtoma'a'n imitaa!


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Posted by: TheCarolinaScotsman 28-Jan-2009, 03:19 AM
Dearbh Do Chridhe!

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 28-Jan-2009, 03:32 AM
Well I must say Lord Steven you have beaten me to the punch, because I was soon going to be informing you that because of your "esteemed clansmens" accusations and assumptions I was looking to drop the treaty of our alliance for I would not be one to stand for someone to throw my or one of my fellow clansmens names out in the open just to take the heat off of their ass for a little while.

I'm sure Lord Olorin and Lord Subhuman as well were offended by her actions but we did not want to take any action against her because of our alliance.
You have know however made it easy for me to feel no remorse for a battle. From the beginning it seemed as if you were wanting to be an overlord over the entire alliance, and that was the main reason I myself did not participate in the attacks of Lord McRoach and Lord Gandalf. I felt like I was in Wolf Clan all over again being told what to do like I was some child and not capable of making my own decisions. I did have the upmost respect for you in this game and still will have some, I can not fault one for sticking up for a fellow clan member, but maybe should have that person think before they begin throwing people's names around for no reason. You have stated your case sir as I have stated mine, and I'm sure others will state theirs in the near future regarding this instance, until then I wish you the best on the battlefield... good or bad.



Lord Shenaniganz247 of Kincardine
Chieftain, Clan BRUCE

Posted by: olorin 28-Jan-2009, 06:30 AM
I will not whine when I go down, and I know I shall. I will fight with honor even though I know I will lose. When the dust settles I'll pick up the pieces, dust myself off and keep on keeping on.

That being said, the notion that your planned attacks are because I insulted your queen are preposterous. I feel that what it boils down to is that Clan MacIn has been hellbent on domination from the get go by any means necessary, and have done just that. My hats of to you for you have succeeded in every way you could have hoped for.

Hasn't anyone else found it unusual though how magical it is that your clan always seems to be in the know of all things Medieval? Our personal plans for the future mysteriously nipped in the butt. Rebecca Ann being in our clan, doing little more than amassing gold the whole time she was here, (though she was treated very very well and had absolutely no reason to leave). All of a sudden, without warning, (two days before this announcement I might add) she takes one of the the biggest stashes of gold in all of Medieval and joins your clan. I suppose I am to chalk this all off to mere coincidence?? Nay I say.

I know I very well may be alone in my feelings here, and if any of you do feel the same I wouldn't blame you for just keeping your mouth shut because I could very well be kicked from the game for making such a brash accusation, but...
To put it as direct as possible, I believe that members of CR show favoritism towards your clan. Plans always seem to be spoiled at just the right minute, members become aware of things just in time. It's just far too convenient how things always just happen to go your way. If I am not mistaken members of CR's staff are after all part of your clan are they not?

*sigh* It's all irrelevant I'm afraid and why I chose to voice this is beyond me because I know it will be covered with pretty words, useless jargon and the usual run around these forums have became infamous for. So as it was futile for me to make this statement, it is futile for me to respond to the comments that will follow...

Let the rain of hell come down on me for I am ready clan MacIn, do your worst for you cannot break me. I will survive, I will rebuild, I will persist; It matters not what you do to me. Unless CR all out bans me from this website I will be a thorn in your side for as long as I am able to breath.

This is your notification...

Posted by: piobmhorpiper 28-Jan-2009, 07:37 AM
I know not Lady Rebecca Ann's reason for leaving your clan but I would guess by reading all the threads that led up to this declaration of war that she made the decision as a result of the insults directed towards our Lady Of Avalon.
Although Lady Of Avalon no longer holds the crown she is still considered our Queen and The Steward djam1023 of RebelScot is holding court for now.

As for the accusation that CR members have passed on insider information about other players status, this is another false accusation and will be dealt with on the battlefield.

Arm yourselves and prepare to pay for your sins!

Again MacInnes!

Posted by: olorin 28-Jan-2009, 08:04 AM
Do what you must, just remember that one man made this accusation and I alone stand accountable for my actions for I took them of my own accord without my liege's knowledge.

As for the rest dots.gif

Posted by: Harlot 28-Jan-2009, 09:31 AM
My Lords Shenaniganz,Subhuman,and Olorin I have watched the posts and I must say that you take great enjoyment in throwing your insults around to the Lady Avalon. I am a Lady too but to be pushed to that point, I would forget that I am a "Lady" and come to your door and show you how "Ladies" take too insults. The day has come to show you we strong and will not be treated as such.

As for Lord Subhuman, on vacation in such a timely matter shows me that he is all mouth and will not fight with you. I hope you embrace that kind of alliance you have with him because he doesn't belive in "All for One and One for All". A day will come when he asks for your help I would hope your on vacation as well.

I shall meet you on the battle field and may the best" Lady" or Lord win

Lady Harlot
Clan MacInnes

Posted by: valpal59 28-Jan-2009, 10:09 AM
My Lords,
The insults to Lady of Avalon were very plain to see and now you accuse CR members of being dishonest. It is time to take responsibility and pay for your actions.

Lady Valpal

Posted by: subhuman 28-Jan-2009, 10:40 AM
QUOTE
As for Lord Subhuman, on vacation in such a timely matter shows me that he is all mouth and will not fight with you.

I have been in holiday mode for several days, since before this announcement.
However feel free to draw whatever conclusions you wish.

Posted by: Harlot 28-Jan-2009, 10:54 AM

Like I said Lord Subhuan it's your timing (the ability to select the precise moment for doing something for optimum effect ) that I question, maybe you have inside information that helped you to go "Vacation Mode".

I send you a sign that hangs in my Castle Great Room that was used for my childern:

"Thou shell not Whine"

Lady Harlot











Posted by: Lady-of-Avalon 28-Jan-2009, 10:59 AM
Lord Shenaniganz,

I too have some respect for you for what is worth.But I guess things change in some ways.For there was strong words trown my way by the 3 of you.
You have choosen to play with words and use an unmoderated forum to do so.
Fine...the only way for redemption for these insults is war.

QUOTE
Disclaimer,
1. Medieval Kingdom is unmoderated.Fine No one will come to your rescue except you or your clan.And they are coming to my rescue for you have insulted them as well.
2. Since it is a role playing game expect people to play their character.
Insults, as long as not personal to yourselfwhich were the case here, may happen as part of the game.

And lastly,

If you have an issue with someone, or if someone insults you - go attack there Kingdom. And my lords...we do have issues with you.


My lord Olorin,

How can you steep so low as to accuse CR staff members in this??? There is one word for that kind of attitude...cowardice. You are the most greedy man I've ever known...you only think of your personal gain in everything...you have stated it yourself to me.

You contradict yourself in every statements you write.You say that you won't whine but it's all you've been doing so far by your preposterous accusations.
You wanted some action...you were bored to death...you wanted "simulated attacks"... you have what you wish for and now you "whine" when the heat is upon you toes.

As for Lady and I say Lady RebeccaAnn...another proof of your greed my lord.
It is a fact that maybe she was not mistreated within your clan in some fashion...but she was used nonetheless.Because she was still at the bottom pit of the ranking ladder since day one. Why was that?...
If you were that much of a good king and leader you would have taken the time to help and guide her into building properly...no instead YOU wanted her resources...plain and simple.
That is the only interest you have shown her. I took her under my wings and she has come a long way since joining our clan.She is learning and prospering and building up.

You see my lord for all the accusations you spew against the MacInnes...I will tell this...The MacInnes respects its members...we help each other, we don't let anyone fend for themselves...we all think and work as a team not as one individual...communication is the key to our success...we don't take anyone for granted...we share ideas and knowledge. THAT'S WHO AND WHAT WE ARE!!!!

You and your chieftain have taken for granted our alliance in more ways than one.
Instead of recruiting and shaping your clan you have taken this alliance in thinking to hide behind it....you should have thought better.You have taken this alliance for your own greedy purposes, to keep the crown.But when the calls to arms were sent to you...you have denied us behind our backs. Again, one word can only describe this kind of attitude...betrayal.

As for Lord Subhuman goes....I only have this to say to you my lord.
You are the most coward of all people in the kingdom...hiding in check...all mouth and insults...but when the time comes he hides.

You can delay but we will wait for you.

See you all on the battlefield and may God have mercy on you.

"AGAIN MACINNES!" MACAONGHAIS A-RITHIST!

Lady of Avalon
Second in Command of Clan MacInnes

Posted by: stevenpd 28-Jan-2009, 12:07 PM
QUOTE (Shenaniganz247 @ 28-Jan-2009, 02:32 AM)
Well I must say Lord Steven you have beaten me to the punch, because I was soon going to be informing you that because of your "esteemed clansmens" accusations and assumptions I was looking to drop the treaty of our alliance for I would not be one to stand for someone to throw my or one of my fellow clansmens names out in the open just to take the heat off of their ass for a little while.

I'm sure Lord Olorin and Lord Subhuman as well were offended by her actions but we did not want to take any action against her because of our alliance.
You have know however made it easy for me to feel no remorse for a battle. From the beginning it seemed as if you were wanting to be an overlord over the entire alliance, and that was the main reason I myself did not participate in the attacks of Lord McRoach and Lord Gandalf. I felt like I was in Wolf Clan all over again being told what to do like I was some child and not capable of making my own decisions. I did have the upmost respect for you in this game and still will have some, I can not fault one for sticking up for a fellow clan member, but maybe should have that person think before they begin throwing people's names around for no reason. You have stated your case sir as I have stated mine, and I'm sure others will state theirs in the near future regarding this instance, until then I wish you the best on the battlefield... good or bad.



Lord Shenaniganz247 of Kincardine
Chieftain, Clan BRUCE

Lord Shenaniganz,

You, yourself, are now spreading misinformation. It was out of courtesy to you and our alliance that I informed you of what was going on to avoid any entanglements. The decision was always yours. I never threatened you or held a gun to your head to participate.

stevenpd
Chieftain
Clan MacInnes
(1:3:7)

Posted by: stevenpd 28-Jan-2009, 12:14 PM
QUOTE (olorin @ 28-Jan-2009, 05:30 AM)
I will not whine when I go down, and I know I shall. I will fight with honor even though I know I will lose. When the dust settles I'll pick up the pieces, dust myself off and keep on keeping on.

That being said, the notion that your planned attacks are because I insulted your queen are preposterous. I feel that what it boils down to is that Clan MacIn has been hellbent on domination from the get go by any means necessary, and have done just that. My hats of to you for you have succeeded in every way you could have hoped for.

Hasn't anyone else found it unusual though how magical it is that your clan always seems to be in the know of all things Medieval? Our personal plans for the future mysteriously nipped in the butt. Rebecca Ann being in our clan, doing little more than amassing gold the whole time she was here, (though she was treated very very well and had absolutely no reason to leave). All of a sudden, without warning, (two days before this announcement I might add) she takes one of the the biggest stashes of gold in all of Medieval and joins your clan. I suppose I am to chalk this all off to mere coincidence?? Nay I say.

I know I very well may be alone in my feelings here, and if any of you do feel the same I wouldn't blame you for just keeping your mouth shut because I could very well be kicked from the game for making such a brash accusation, but...
To put it as direct as possible, I believe that members of CR show favoritism towards your clan. Plans always seem to be spoiled at just the right minute, members become aware of things just in time. It's just far too convenient how things always just happen to go your way. If I am not mistaken members of CR's staff are after all part of your clan are they not?

*sigh* It's all irrelevant I'm afraid and why I chose to voice this is beyond me because I know it will be covered with pretty words, useless jargon and the usual run around these forums have became infamous for. So as it was futile for me to make this statement, it is futile for me to respond to the comments that will follow...

Let the rain of hell come down on me for I am ready clan MacIn, do your worst for you cannot break me. I will survive, I will rebuild, I will persist; It matters not what you do to me. Unless CR all out bans me from this website I will be a thorn in your side for as long as I am able to breath.

This is your notification...

Lord Olorin,

I am in the "know" because I watch and listen. I think.

You may say what you want but it is nothing more than whining at your situation.

Clan MacInnes managed to get where it is, not by favoritism, as you whine but by hard work and deliberate planning. This war and the inclusive battles were planned my friend. We were actually two weeks late due to the computer glitches that everyone experienced.

stevenpd
Chieftain
Clan MacInnes
(1:3:7)

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 28-Jan-2009, 01:36 PM
I know all too well that these forums are unmoderated, I've endured being called a cowardly heartless whiny bitch by Lord Tallerlacuba for simply attacking him, even at times giving notice but that did not seem to suffice.
I have never been one to complain as you all have known when you first attacked me when I left the Wolf Clan, and should your full clan come to attack me again you will hear no complaining from me again, you may beat me but you will not make me scream.
As for Lady RebeccaAnn, she was shown nothing but respect in our clan and WAS given guidance as to how she should go about building her army and her defenses, it was HER choice to sit there and hoard up all her gold and have absolutely no army whatsoever.

I personally do not remember insulting Lady of Avalon at all in the discussions earlier, merely said that before she throw my name under the bus she had the facts straight about whether or not I attack, but the rest of you see that as disrespecting someone. I call bullshit on that my friends, you are merely looking for fuel to throw on the fire of my kingdom when you try to come and raid it, for you know that I am a worthy and honorable opponent.

And Lord Stevenpd I find it hard to believe that you did all that information and planning "in hopes" that we attack. You knew good and well of your intentions sir.

I do not use name calling here, I will not call anyone a coward or a whiney bitch or any of the other names that are being thrown around. I will simply prepare myself for a battle of all times and pray that when the dust settles I still have something to rebuild from. This has happened before and I took the crown... remember that I do not go quitely into the night lords and ladies


Good Day

Lord Shenaniganz247 of Kincardine
Chieftain, Clan BRUCE

Posted by: stevenpd 28-Jan-2009, 08:07 PM
QUOTE (Shenaniganz247 @ 28-Jan-2009, 12:36 PM)
I know all too well that these forums are unmoderated, I've endured being called a cowardly heartless whiny bitch by Lord Tallerlacuba for simply attacking him, even at times giving notice but that did not seem to suffice.
I have never been one to complain as you all have known when you first attacked me when I left the Wolf Clan, and should your full clan come to attack me again you will hear no complaining from me again, you may beat me but you will not make me scream.
As for Lady RebeccaAnn, she was shown nothing but respect in our clan and WAS given guidance as to how she should go about building her army and her defenses, it was HER choice to sit there and hoard up all her gold and have absolutely no army whatsoever.

I personally do not remember insulting Lady of Avalon at all in the discussions earlier, merely said that before she throw my name under the bus she had the facts straight about whether or not I attack, but the rest of you see that as disrespecting someone. I call bullshit on that my friends, you are merely looking for fuel to throw on the fire of my kingdom when you try to come and raid it, for you know that I am a worthy and honorable opponent.

And Lord Stevenpd I find it hard to believe that you did all that information and planning "in hopes" that we attack. You knew good and well of your intentions sir.

I do not use name calling here, I will not call anyone a coward or a whiney bitch or any of the other names that are being thrown around. I will simply prepare myself for a battle of all times and pray that when the dust settles I still have something to rebuild from. This has happened before and I took the crown... remember that I do not go quitely into the night lords and ladies


Good Day

Lord Shenaniganz247 of Kincardine
Chieftain, Clan BRUCE

Lord Shenaniganz,

I deplore name calling and refrain from it.

It is unfortunate, but it was Lord Olorin and Lord Subhuman that did the damage. Not you personally if that is any consolation. I have found you to be nothing less than a gentleman.

As for Lady RebeccaAnn, she has done nothing, that I am aware of, other than join Clan MacInnes. Her reasons are her own and I have not been made privy to them.

You may find it hard to believe, but I have done the homework. The impetus to this situation can be traced to your own Lord Olorin. He was the one that publicly declared that he was bored. He was the one that started this "Gentlemen's War" scenario. All of a sudden he starts to move up in the ranks. And I did notice the lack of participation when we brought down Clan EIO. All of these small things add up over time. I would be a fool not to think that something was brewing. You said yourself that Clan MacInnes beat you to the punch. To me, this means that you were in preparations previously too. Why? I can only surmise that you were bored as well and looking for some action. If Clan MacInnes gave you any reason for such a build up, please enlighten me.

At any rate, I find this finger pointing burdensome and counterproductive. You will have to admit that the game is no longer boring.

You still have my respect as a player. I look forward to meeting you on the battlefield.

stevenpd
Chieftain
Clan MacInnes
(1:3:7)

Posted by: olorin 28-Jan-2009, 08:48 PM
If I am to be made out to be the "bad guy" that caused all this than so be it. I did nothing wrong and will always maintain this. I did not insult your queen and the accusation is rediculious. I didn't "move up the boards" I in fact have dropped to 4th place, which will change dramatically in the next few hours.

Blah; as you said sir, I find this finger pointing burdensome and counterproductive as well. And you are correct indeed, things are far from boring at this moment and I thank you for this much.

I will be back alucard.gif

Posted by: stevenpd 28-Jan-2009, 09:28 PM
QUOTE (olorin @ 28-Jan-2009, 07:48 PM)
If I am to be made out to be the "bad guy" that caused all this than so be it. I did nothing wrong and will always maintain this. I did not insult your queen and the accusation is rediculious. I didn't "move up the boards" I in fact have dropped to 4th place, which will change dramatically in the next few hours.

Blah; as you said sir, I find this finger pointing burdensome and counterproductive as well. And you are correct indeed, things are far from boring at this moment and I thank you for this much.

I will be back alucard.gif

Lord Olorin,

I did not intend on making you out to be the bad guy for the build up of Clan MacInnes. I used a series of events to illustrate the line of thinking that went into the planning. Providing some insight as it were.

Good luck and we will see you on the battlefield.

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 28-Jan-2009, 09:51 PM
The point of the gentleman's war was to bring some fun to the game and was in no way intended to dissolve the clans. The actions that were brought forth after the accusations that we were attacking clan EIO made by your lady of avalon was what disheartened me as to why would you bring your fellow alliance members into that when it was clearly not needed. I did not see too much name calling or disrespecting and if so it could have went either way with bringing the names in.

In response to your beating me to the punch... I was thinking of dissolving the alliance after the comments made by her in the forums... BUT was not at the time making it as if we were coming after you and yours unless provoked.

This does make the game more fun and I see no need in any hard feelings or anger or name calling to go on. I look on for the major players in this game to finally have some fun like we've been wanting for some time.


Until the battlefield my lord

Lord Shenaniganz247 of Kincardine
Chieftain, Clan Bruce

Posted by: Lady-of-Avalon 28-Jan-2009, 11:02 PM
QUOTE (Shenaniganz247 @ 28-Jan-2009, 10:51 PM)
The point of the gentleman's war was to bring some fun to the game and was in no way intended to dissolve the clans. The actions that were brought forth after the accusations that we were attacking clan EIO made by your lady of avalon was what disheartened me as to why would you bring your fellow alliance members into that when it was clearly not needed. I did not see too much name calling or disrespecting and if so it could have went either way with bringing the names in.

In response to your beating me to the punch... I was thinking of dissolving the alliance after the comments made by her in the forums... BUT was not at the time making it as if we were coming after you and yours unless provoked.

This does make the game more fun and I see no need in any hard feelings or anger or name calling to go on. I look on for the major players in this game to finally have some fun like we've been wanting for some time.


Until the battlefield my lord

Lord Shenaniganz247 of Kincardine
Chieftain, Clan Bruce

The actions that were brought forth after the accusations that we were attacking clan EIO made by your lady of avalon was what disheartened me as to why would you bring your fellow alliance members into that when it was clearly not needed.

Still twisting the words my lord...this is so pathetic...nobody ever accused you of anything...

I did not see too much name calling or disrespecting

Again you're the only one who can't see it...of prefer not to see.

As for name calling goes...no one ever called you anything!!!

Lady of Avalon

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 28-Jan-2009, 11:12 PM
well you see my lady this goes back to everything that started it... I did not say anyone called me anything i simply said i refrain from it. i brought up name calling as i was used to it in an unmoderated forum from back when I attacked tallerlacuba.
and from what stevenpd said was that this dissolution of the alliance was 2 weeks late due to the game glitch, so the likes of you had this planned before any of the disrespect that your claiming you got from the verbal arguments from you olorin and subhuman are apparently false. this had been in plans for some time. and again you are twisting the words accused and assumed. I keep saying you ASSUMED i followed through with the attack that lord stevenpd had sent for us to try and go by.

and you say there is no name calling or disrespecting then what in the sam hell are you offended by for gods sake that your fellow clan members are saying you were disrespected by the actions of olorin and subhuman???

those stories don't add up... but again why waste words like everybody always does... it seems this time everyone has decided to let their swords and bows do the talking...

Posted by: olorin 28-Jan-2009, 11:25 PM
It appears we have a LOA with PMS which makes me SOL dots.gif

Posted by: Lady-of-Avalon 29-Jan-2009, 12:05 AM
lol.gif lol.gif thanks for braking the ice my lord...you're funny naughty.gif

Women with PMS are the most dangerous one taz.gif

I like people with a sense of humour...you have brought a smile on my face.

Thank you...

Lady of Avalon

Posted by: olorin 29-Jan-2009, 07:50 AM
And thank you for stripping my entire kingdom from me, may you enjoy it's spoils.
Just remember what I said...I will be back, bigger and stronger than before! cool.gif

Posted by: Lady-of-Avalon 29-Jan-2009, 08:53 AM
QUOTE (olorin @ 29-Jan-2009, 08:50 AM)
And thank you for stripping my entire kingdom from me, may you enjoy it's spoils.
Just remember what I said...I will be back, bigger and stronger than before! cool.gif

My dear Lord,

Who knows maybe the next time we meet on the battlefield you'll be the winner...never know what could happen in there!!!! thumbs_up.gif

There will always be a winner and a looser in any battle.

Peace with you...until next time cool2.gif I too like sunglasses!!!

Lady of Avalon thumbs_up.gif smile.gif

Posted by: tallerlacuba 30-Jan-2009, 11:48 AM
Congratulations Lady of Avalon

I still think you are the real Queen of this game.

thumbs_up.gif

tallerlacuba

Posted by: djam1023 30-Jan-2009, 11:13 PM
Congratulations to all of Clan MacInnes. I raise a toast to the spoils of victory!
beer_mug.gif beer_mug.gif beer_mug.gif

Posted by: olorin 06-Feb-2009, 09:34 PM
And I raise a toast to Subhuman beer_mug.gif beer_mug.gif beer_mug.gif

Cheers to you sir for convientely dissapearing from all of the game during the entire war.

Cheers to you for advising me you would be "glad to help" with our effort, and then never uttering another word.

And cheers to you sir for somehow being spared any attacks in a war in which you helped create. I guess MacInn were so concentrated on attacking us that they simply forgot about you, what luck. rolleyes.gif

And a big ass cheer to whomever was stupid enough to think I would not to notice this. The short bus I did not ride, nay I say. No helmet required. stupid.gif

Mind you I am not so much complaining, just stating the obvious. And I'm kind of glad it went down this way because we now fully know where everyones priorities lie.

Our future is wide open and we can see quite clearly now, it's rather refreshing.

Posted by: Harlot 06-Feb-2009, 10:31 PM
QUOTE (Harlot @ 28-Jan-2009, 11:31 AM)

As for Lord Subhuman, on vacation in such a timely matter shows me that he is all mouth and will not fight with you. I hope you embrace that kind of alliance you have with him because he doesn't belive in "All for One and One for All". A day will come when he asks for your help I would hope your on vacation as well.


Lady Harlot
Clan MacInnes


Lord subhuman of TheRedeemed
134,520
1:3:4 - UDB shows him on Holiday Mode still

Posted by: olorin 06-Feb-2009, 11:58 PM
Imagine that, but nothing surprizing really. Sub has always proven himself to be a rogue who travels alone, and soley invests in himself.

Just remember friend, he who lives alone, dies alone.

Posted by: Lady-of-Avalon 07-Feb-2009, 07:34 AM
QUOTE (Lady-of-Avalon @ 28-Jan-2009, 11:59 AM)
As for Lord Subhuman goes....I only have this to say to you my lord.
You are the most coward of all people in the kingdom...hiding in check...all mouth and insults...but when the time comes he hides.

You can delay but we will wait for you.

See you all on the battlefield and may God have mercy on you.

"AGAIN MACINNES!" MACAONGHAIS A-RITHIST!

Lady of Avalon
Second in Command of Clan MacInnes

Lord Olorin,

So you just admitted that you were in league against us...and there maybe more than meets the eyes here...

It seems my Lord that your "supposedly ALLIES" in secret are all mouth in more ways than one....if you think that NO ONE noticed...well all I have to say is that some have eyes to observe and study the game more than others I guess.

As for his statement goes he stated on jan.28th in response to Lady Harlot that he has been on HM for several days even before the announcement of the declaration of war...well nothing can be so far from the thruth as I was on that day and he had put himself on HM that same very day and now he's looking at the naked ladies on the French Riviera since then....hmmmmm eek.gif drool.gif

As for myself...I too is on HM but not for the same reason...for I did not "deserted" anyone...or hiding...I have personal reason for what is worth as I can log on only for an hour or a few minutes these days unfortunately.

Lady of Avalon

Posted by: olorin 07-Feb-2009, 10:03 PM
I too noticed these things as well, but the allogation that I was "in league" against your clan isn't quite what you make it out to be. The war was already on and I asked him if he would care to aid us since all ties had been severed. So there were hardly any secrets going on.

And here are the email messages showing this:

holiday mode..., 28-Jan-2009, 11:42 AM

I went into holiday mode on sunday or Monday (not sure which) so I either have a few hours or a little over a day of forced non-participation left.
I will gladly join in after that point, but until then there's not much I can do.
-Bob

And my reply:

Sent: Re: holiday mode..., 28-Jan-2009, 07:05 PM

QUOTE
I went into holiday mode on sunday or Monday (not sure which) so I either have a few hours or a little over a day of forced non-participation left.
I will gladly join in after that point, but until then there's not much I can do.
-Bob

Very well then. We await your arrival.

Of course he never "arrived" per say.

I also was the one that initiated contact with him and this was his reply, but I cannot find the email I sent. I guess that looks bad on me, but I'm sure sub has it and will post it when he sees our wonderful little conversation here.

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 08-Feb-2009, 02:57 AM
Just how long is one allowed to go onto vacation mode on this game anyway? I was under the impression it was only 72 hours or somewhere around there, so that would make 3 days?? Just curious as to whether or not that is true, I may wish to take a vacation if it seems i am allowed to miss an entire war altogether

Posted by: Harlot 08-Feb-2009, 09:27 AM
He's playing a new game with us.......Hide and Seek.................Come Out........Come Out ........Where ever you are

Posted by: stevenpd 08-Feb-2009, 10:04 AM
Apparently you can go into Holiday Mode as much as you want.

Once you go into Holiday Mode you are frozen for 75 hours. The trick is to know when you come out. All the while you are in Holiday Mode you collect your resources, are protected from attack and you can build and train. Now, once you come out you can spend what resources that you have collected and go right back in. It is one way of growing without worry of losing what you have gained.

Here is the excerpt from the Help file.

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Holiday
As soon as you enter holiday mode, you will be logged out of your account, and will not be allowed to log back in for at least 75 ticks. You can remain in holiday mode for as long as you wish, and whilst in holiday mode you will receive no income, and you cannot be attacked by other players.


I think we have stumbled on a bug. It states that no income is received but it does accumulate currently.

Posted by: Harlot 08-Feb-2009, 11:29 AM
It seems the last time is was on was: Last Visit: 06-Feb-09. He's one smart player,comes on builds and trains then goes back on HM.

Posted by: Randy 09-Feb-2009, 12:03 PM
I do not think it is smart it is cheating. It is using an exploit to your advantage in the game. Since we have evidence that he is checking his kingdom then this is proof and he should be removed from the game. This is not why this feature was put into the game. Just my 2 gold pieces.

Dolaan

Posted by: Lady-of-Avalon 09-Feb-2009, 12:43 PM
QUOTE (stevenpd @ 08-Feb-2009, 11:04 AM)
Apparently you can go into Holiday Mode as much as you want.

Once you go into Holiday Mode you are frozen for 75 hours. The trick is to know when you come out. All the while you are in Holiday Mode you collect your resources, are protected from attack and you can build and train. Now, once you come out you can spend what resources that you have collected and go right back in. It is one way of growing without worry of losing what you have gained.

Here is the excerpt from the Help file.

QUOTE
Holiday
As soon as you enter holiday mode, you will be logged out of your account, and will not be allowed to log back in for at least 75 ticks. You can remain in holiday mode for as long as you wish, and whilst in holiday mode you will receive no income, and you cannot be attacked by other players.


I think we have stumbled on a bug. It states that no income is received but it does accumulate currently.



Don't want to go "off topic" but....
First if I may clear something up here...

While on Holiday Mode... no one can build and train...because you can't log into your account for 3 days....the only two things that HM does for you is yes protect your kingdom while away and two the resources still accumulates because you have assets that produces them...I don't see it as a bug I see it as a normal course of action...why then the purpose of buildings if everything stops while you can't log into your account ???

And second, I don't see it as cheating or anything...EVERYONE is allowed to play as they please...taking advantage of it is no more cheating than taking advantage of attacking others during the night while they are sleeping.(don't want to start an argument here...only making a comparison...thank you very much)

In this case if he has chosen to go on HM it's his own choice...he can play as he sees fit...there is no rule written against it.

As for anyone last visit and such again it doesn't mean anything...everyone is allowed to log into CR while on HM on the game!!!!

If this feature was not for the purpose of taking advantage of it then why is it there for????

So then I have been "cheating" as well...as I have been in and out of the hospital for the last week every day and could only log a few minutes at a time during the day or late at night...so why would I leave my kingdom unprotected in time of war when I can't defend myself...or what if someone go away on vacation...why couldn't he/she put their account on HM and if while away more than 3 days why can't they put it back on???

Everyone knows that today everywhere in the world...one can have access to "Internet Café" or library services and just have their kingdoms protected.

No, I don't think it's cheating. IMHO.

LOA smile.gif

Posted by: stevenpd 09-Feb-2009, 05:28 PM
1) It is not cheating. He did not change the game programming to gain it. He just plays. Just because someone exploits a bug in this "BETA" game means nothing. Everyone can still take advantage just like him. It is not restricted to anyone.

2) It is a "bug" in the truest meaning of programming because it conflicts with what has been stated in the Help section. If the program does one thing and the Help section says another, there is a conflict. It needs to be reconciled. Someone new to the game relies on the Help section, in which case, they are at a distinct disadvantage right from the start.

Posted by: olorin 11-Feb-2009, 07:31 AM
Well, I'm not trying to stray too far off target either, but I find it a bit odd of you fair lady to go this far to defend his actions. Where Stevenpd's reaction is typical of his behavior and straight to the point, yours is more like your completely condoning his actions and making excuses for it. You were ever so quick to judge me and condemn me as a dishonorable clansmen, and him as well at first; so very odd this change of heart you seem to have developed. disgust.gif

Is it cheating? That debate could go on for days and I'm not here to judge it either way. Is what he did when war broke out, and continues to do now in bad form? Absolutely

Posted by: Lady-of-Avalon 11-Feb-2009, 08:49 AM
QUOTE (olorin @ 11-Feb-2009, 08:31 AM)
Well, I'm not trying to stray too far off target either, but I find it a bit odd of you fair lady to go this far to defend his actions. Where Stevenpd's reaction is typical of his behavior and straight to the point, yours is more like your completely condoning his actions and making excuses for it. You were ever so quick to judge me and condemn me as a dishonorable clansmen, and him as well at first; so very odd this change of heart you seem to have developed. disgust.gif

Is it cheating? That debate could go on for days and I'm not here to judge it either way. Is what he did when war broke out, and continues to do now in bad form? Absolutely

Lord Olorin,

I am not defending his actions whatsoever as I couldn't care less...read carefully what I am stating and don't try and pretend otherwise and twist my statement against me again.

I am defending the fact that some including you with some of your statements that think that people are "cheating" their way into the game...nothing can be further from the truth.

I am simply stating that "ALL PLAYERS" are allowed to use this feature (HM) for as long as they wish and as many times as they wish.

And I am not making any excuses to anyone or to anything.Again read what you will I couldn't care less either as I don't have any respect for those that are throwing false accusations without foundations.

I am simply fed up with the childish statements of some that states that people are cheating because they simply use a feature in the game and/or insinuating that CR members are implicated in the game somehow.

The fact of the matter is that I stated an opinion in regard of someone accusing another of "cheating" and it simply don't matter who the player is,that is not the point here...that is bad form and bad taste as "ALL PLAYERS" are allowed to play the game the way they wish. Simple as that. And I am allowed to my opinion and I wish that you would refrain from twisting another's statement.

I don't care much about those that use this argument like saying that someone is "cheating" or a third party is involved to help one gain into the game.In my eyes I see it as a "sore looser" statement nothing less.

And if you have a personal issue with Lord Subhuman actions well you know what you have to do.



Sincerely yours,
Lady of Avalon smile.gif

Posted by: olorin 11-Feb-2009, 09:56 AM
*sigh* more of the same, it seems. I suppose sooner or later you will rid yourself of this grudge you seem to have against me. And I hold nothing against Subhuman, I just find him stating that he will do one thing, then doing the exact opposite to be in "bad form".

I'm hardly a sore loser and I haven't been in here whining about losing my armies and such. In contrast I took it with a smile and enjoyed finally freaking doing something in the game. I was to a point where getting my ass kicked was far better than setting on it day after day. I can finally do something and have some fun again, why would I complain? Having the crown as long as I did was a double edged sword as I'm sure you have found as well. It's great to be on top and I was proud while I was there, but it's mighty lonely, (and boring) at the top. Especially when surrounded by nothing but allies as far as you can see.

Good day, my quarrels are done here.
Have a coke and a smile... smile.gif

Olorin


Posted by: piobmhorpiper 11-Feb-2009, 12:59 PM
Well, all seams well in the Mk. The Subhuman does what he does because he is who he is and nobody else could be him. This game is meant to be a battle for the top and for Clans to gather members for support of the groupp as a whole. Battles will be fought, with or without warning. Although in my own thoughts, during medievil times, did any attacking army give notice of an upcoming attack? I think not! But I think extortion was at its peak by asking for gold or goods in the means of taxes abounded at the time and we have seen it here.
Let the games continue, both battles and words, but we are all here for the enjoyment of Celtic Radio.
Lord Piobmhorpiper

Posted by: olorin 13-Feb-2009, 08:29 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself sir, The game shall go on.

Posted by: subhuman 27-Feb-2009, 08:36 PM
Olorin, you're correct. It is/was in bad form for me not to participate as I said I would in that e-mail. However, plans change and I found myself with less than sufficient time to manage a war. Figuring I'd need about 8 hours (it can reasonably be expected to be resolved in that time period) at the computer, I haven't had that yet. Much like LoA using HM when only having a few minutes each day to play, I find myself in a similar situation (but for different reasons).
Harlot- last visit to the forum does not always mean last visit to the game.
stevenpd- you were the one who informed me of the bug where a player continues to accumulate resources while in HM, so don't even try to pretend it's a newly discovered bug or previously unknown to you

Oh, and for those of you who are curious- I find myself with a few minutes to post today, but not with 8 hours... so feel free to check, but yes I'm still in HM.

Posted by: Dogshirt 27-Feb-2009, 09:01 PM
QUOTE
Oh, and for those of you who are curious- I find myself with a few minutes to post today, but not with 8 hours... so feel free to check, but yes I'm still in HM.


Belive me when I say that I am up 20 hours a day, and just as soon as I see your HM has slipped, I'll tell the whole Clan! KMFNA!!!!!




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