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Robert Phoenix 
Posted: 18-Sep-2009, 03:38 PM
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Saw this today and it seems to tie in with alot of the conspiricy theories that are floating about. I 'm not saying wether the info is true or false but it does cause some concern for me soI just want to know what other people think about this? So how true do you think this story is?
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Posted: 18-Sep-2009, 05:20 PM
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It is cause for concern on many fronts. Had bush proposed this the left would have reacted in an insane fashion. It is likely that the right and independent's will react in the same manner today.

The first thing that comes to mind is "the mark of the beast!". Second would be population control. The information readers installed along US and Interstate highways were put there for a reason (starting under Clinton). If you believe the information that has been released about them, a tremendous amount of money has been spent to glean a miniscule amount of information. Hmmmmm??

Those of you who are computer savvy I am sure know how easy it would be to destroy an individual if his ability to "function" in society were to be electronically removed and chips would allow that.

There are those who would be familiar with the capabilities of chips and ways to disguise them. They could add information here. I have seen early "pet" chips and the miniaturization that has taken place since. I am sure more research has been applied to chips they would like to place in us.

Some time ago I came across a "benign" article about the govt. upgrading "high fence facilities" and questioned it on this site at that time. The military is well armed and can easily keep people OUT! "High fences" keep people in. I have visited a couple installations and in all but one case our Southern borders should be so well protected.

A thorough search of "The North American Command" is also a bit troublesome. In part because you will find two descriptions of it's mission, both opposed to each other. One is to put down "civil unrest" and deal with national crisis'. Do you recall "POSSE COMITATUS"?

Also, several years ago, there were a number of M1A1 Abrams tanks being moved along our 4 lane highways, each with two military auto's and heavily armed military personnel. Some took meal breaks at a restaurant in a truck stop in a neighboring state and they raised some interesting questions. Oddly they spoke to no one. An article 7 or 8 months later indicated that an armored division from, I believe Ga., was dispersed across the US (this was done under bush) One tank showed up at an anti military rally in the North West (again under bush).

If we look, there is probably much more happening than we know.

I have decided, with the information I have gleaned, not to get the vaccination. The side effects that have appeared in Europe though minimal are serious if they happen to you. Also, the drug industry was exempted from ALL liability by obama's administration. Since this is being blown completely out of proportion as to it's risk, I smell a massive infestation of rats!!

With the present swine flu death rate you are more likely to be hit by an auto and die while crossing the street in a small American town.

Some of the links ((birdflu and Mass. would not work) If it becomes mandatory, It then goes back to the mark of the beast. For what it is worth too, the federal govt in the last couple of months has placed a homeland security agents in each county to deal with pandemic's and crisis. Densely populated areas got more. We only rated one! Think about that nationwide!!

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Posted: 20-Sep-2009, 12:09 AM
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Patch, I absolutely concur with your conclusions and ruminations. I live in a very military area, Obama spends WAY too much time in my state and that concerns me; and recently an elderly neighbor saw a slew of large black vans heading up our local two lane highway, all marked with that Northern Command POLICE logo. scared the crap out of him and it sure bothers me, I believe that whole org is not even Constitutional but hey whats the Constitution to these maniacs anymore right?
Obama calls it a bunch of 'negative rights.' There is usually some source of truth in every rumor, right?
I have been watching every move of Obama's since he appeared almost out of thin air and catapulted to the most powerful position in the US thanks to the efforts going back to at least 2004 by avowed atheist and America hating George Soros and his $billions; his various groups including Tides Foundation, Center for American Progress etc. SOROS says" the obstacle to a stable and just world is the US" and since he funded Obama into the Senate back then, THIS THING has been in the works for quite some time. People used to joke about NWO conspiracy, ironically Jeffrey Immelt from GE spent time in June in CANADA at the Adapting to a New World Order conference, I am not making that up. Even FOX didn't mention it, how odd huh?

While Obama is most definitely a socialist since day one, mentored by atheists and communists; he also attended a Bilderburg meeting just before surprisingly winning this election; fact: every one of our recent presidents has been to a Bilderburg...
But I think HIS agenda veers from the GE/UN/Rockefeller/Cronkite and Bilderburg NWO agenda- in that I truly believe he is a closet Muslim as well. While they foolishly determine to create their one world utupia, I think Obama's agenda is to help bring about the downfal of the US and set up the Muslim Calliphate worldwide. Achmadenijad believes that only THAT will bring THEIR Messiah, the mahdi; i.e. to us the AntiChrist.
In Islam there is a thing called Takiya-where normally the Q'uran forbids lying, it's ok if necessary to fit in until you can act to bring about the caliphate. That's how the 9-11 high jackers fit in.
I have watched every Obama 'loving gesture' to the Muslim world since he got his arse into the oval office; and also every slight to our formal allies; every attack on the Christians and right wing in this country. I think what clinched it for me though was his REFUSAL to participate in the National Day of Prayer, first president ever to pull that, I suppose even takiya has it's limits...
His speech to Turkey that "America is no longer a Christian nation" (wrong!) coupled with his interview in France where he claimed in fact America is "now the largest Muslim country! " ...no amount of people calling me a birther or conspiracy nut will explain those remarks coming from a US president.

He is either insane (like a fox) or a Muslim. He AIN'T no Christian, the Chicago church preaches black liberation theology, according to a quote from Rev Wright to Hannity. Alan Keyes debated Obama and Obama actually makes light of his so called Christian faith, it's creepy. Find it on youtube if it hasn't been scrubbed.
And now this week his missile defense cuts again.

SO RFD chips? My pastor said that he believes we will KNOW exactly when it's happening, there will be no doubt, the Bible says you will not be able to buy or sell. You will 'take the mark' which makes me say there will be a choice in the matter.
This all ties in together, it may seem I am wandering here, but if you do believe in end time prophesy (and now DHS calls YOU a terrorist if so!) well...there are many former PLO terrorists who are Christians, I know one, who believe that Islam is the anti-Christ...makes sense to me. Which brings us full circle to what is going on in our gov and the world, and where these chips come in. flu shots? possible...but I concur with Glenn Beck, Obama needs an incident, then marshall law. Then pray as never before.
Is it too late for the US? I concur with those who know God said If you bless my people I will bless you, but if you curse my people I will curse you seven fold...we know where Obama and the Muslim world stands on God's people. For the record, Obama signed an executive order this week bring THOUSANDS of HAMAS people into the US at taxpayer expense. HE calls them VICTIMS of Israel of course.
#2 God also said: If my people who are called by my name humble themselves and pray AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS, then I will hear from heaven forgive their sin and heal their nation... LOOK at AMERICA, and tell me if you think that's happening? America is Sodom and Gamorah to the 10th power.
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Posted: 20-Sep-2009, 08:54 AM
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Occasionally you guys start to worry me. unsure.gif

Here's a website for everyone worried about "Black Helocopters" and the like:

The TRUTH About Black Helicopters!
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Methinks after reading the articles that these Aluminium Heads have been watching to many Sci Fi shows. The Borg are coming.



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Posted: 20-Sep-2009, 10:50 AM
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Mine all came from the news media in articles released over several years. It spanned two administrations and happened from the period late in the housing/credit bubble and before there was even an idea in the public sector that anything might be wrong.

The "travelling tanks" came first followed several months later by a news release to explain loosely why an armored division left it's base without fanfare.

I do not watch si-fi shows and do not subscribe to conspiracy theories but these happenings that I described go far beyond coincidence. Should anything go wrong here, neither of our neighbors could consider themselves safe as they posess "natural resources."

macewen also puts forth some interesting facts. The big news stories are not the "news." Watch the little things and things you see with your own eyes that get no coverage. When you take them in total you begin to see troubling trends!

It is not the intent of govt or the media to tell you these things but that they are not very bright and can not look forward!

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Posted: 20-Sep-2009, 12:32 PM
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Well, I love a good conspiracy theory. They're fun. This one, however, seems a little over-the-top. It's not that I do not believe any or all of the Bible's End-Times prophecies. The problem is that for every person or group that has a theory there are hundreds more just like them with their own version. Many years ago when I was an over-the-road truck driver, I stopped in a restaurant in Virginia and picked up a tape. The title was The Mark of the Beast: It's Here or Near. The speaker was one Carl Sanders. There is much information about him on the web...most of which attempts to discredit him. I listened to that tape over and over. I found it to be most entertaining. However, history is littered with people and groups who have followed the apocalyptic teachings of some wack job, most of which ended rather tragically. From the Russellites of the early Watchtower Society, to the Jones Cult, to the idiots who committed suicide with pocket full of quarters for the vending machines onboard the spaceship hiding behind the Hale-Bopp comet, there have been many who claimed to know this or that about the "end." The next sentence is strictly my heartfelt belief. If you are a person who knows God, and have accepted Christ, then you will not need any person to tell you what the mark of the beast is or that Jesus is returning. To those I hear claim to know these things, I dismiss them without qualms. Why? Because I'm God's property, and He will guide me. Not some news reporter or mad scientist.


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As for the end times, the bible tells us that we do not know the hour. I am not into predicting that or the predictions of Nostradamus either. I do find it interesting that the Inca calender was figured so far into the future and stopped on Dec 21, 2012. There was no explanation in Inca history and many ideas have taken root. Most alive today will be alive on that date so they will see for themselves.

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QUOTE (MacEoghainn @ 20-Sep-2009, 09:54 AM)
Occasionally you guys start to worry me. unsure.gif

Here's a website for everyone worried about "Black Helocopters" and the like:

The TRUTH About Black Helicopters!
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That was a hoot. Today do we have a "vast left wing conspiracy?" I have seen helicopters with many different paint jobs. To be truly stealth vehicles they should blend with the sky. Black does not do that and sound would give it away at any time. In the past, govt agencies have gravitated toward black Chev. Suburbans with INS preferring dark blue. Maybe that is where the "black" idea came about.

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What would prevent a nanochip that small in the bloodstream from simply being excreted? The shelf life then would be quite small. Vitamins in the blood are excreted within hours. So then, if these chips were inserted for population control or to kill undesirables then there is only a small window of opportunity. Not too cost efficient if you ask me, and hopelessly impractical. Even a nanochip on the skin's surface would have to have some serious adhesive or it would be washed off or be scrached off since it would irritate. Numbers on each vaccination dose may just be batch numbers to track administered vaccines in case of side effects.

I do agree with Shamrock, conspiracy theories are a bit fun.

I'm not a Bible believer at all! So I'm not going to comment on the "end times" business.


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