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Posted by: FamhairCloiche 31-Mar-2008, 11:30 AM
A member of our church and several others with the International Mission Board (IMB) have been serving as translators in Iraq on a rotating basis for some time now. With the uptick in violence, they are currently trying to evacuate, but between the military curfew and the sporadic running gun battles (one of which was on their street on Saturday) they have not been able to get out. They don't have a car, but they've contacted US military forces and are hoping for an escort early this week.

I really can't give any specifics, but please keep our missionaries in your prayers.

His will be done.

Posted by: Siobhan Blues 07-Apr-2008, 03:20 PM
Sure will, hon.

SB

Posted by: FamhairCloiche 14-Apr-2008, 10:40 AM
[COLOR=green]Thank you everybody. I didn't include much information in the last posting because the IMB is worried about what information gets out over the Web. I can now tell you that Donna Beth Clark and those with her did get in contact with US forces and managed to escape to Jordan. They are due to return to the US this weekend.[/COLOR=green]

Posted by: ogdenmusic 16-Apr-2008, 09:55 PM
I wish them a safe journey home. Sounds good.

Posted by: John Clements 17-Apr-2008, 07:47 AM
If there is no easy way out of Iraq, one has to “bite the built” and just get the hell out, (as quickly, and as safely as possible). But that’s not about to happen, as long as the Bush Crime Family is still making money, at the cost of thousands of lives, and our country!
Anyway, I do hope the military escorts the missionaries out of Iraq, (ASAP) along with them selves.

Posted by: Robert Phoenix 18-Apr-2008, 09:28 PM
Glad to see that they are ok. Hope they have a safe journey to their next stop. China is having a fun time slaughtering Christians left and right too.

Posted by: haynes9 18-Apr-2008, 09:51 PM
Will definitely keep these folks in prayer. There are many dangerous spots for those who would spread the Gospel. I admire their willingness to press on in spite of the dangers. And if they have to leave, we trust that "His Word will not return unto Him void."

Posted by: Haggishead 19-Apr-2008, 10:04 AM
Glad to hear they are out of the direct line of fire. Will continue to pray for a safe trip home.

Posted by: scotborn 04-May-2008, 09:31 AM
I think it is arrogant of christians to think that god is on their side. How do you now he isnt on the iraqis side. After all it was our countries that invaded them. Not the other way around.

Posted by: Camac 04-May-2008, 09:34 AM
QUOTE (scotborn @ 04-May-2008, 10:31 AM)
I think it is arrogant of christians to think that god is on their side. How do you now he isnt on the iraqis side. After all it was our countries that invaded them. Not the other way around.

I think it was Napoleon who said "God is on the side of who has the Biggest Battalions"

Camac.

Posted by: scotborn 04-May-2008, 09:59 AM
lol, thats quite an accurate qoute.

Posted by: FamhairCloiche 23-May-2008, 07:54 AM
QUOTE (scotborn @ 04-May-2008, 09:31 AM)
I think it is arrogant of christians to think that god is on their side. How do you now he isnt on the iraqis side. After all it was our countries that invaded them. Not the other way around.

God doesn't choose sides, we do. Our only job while we're here is to be loved. Some folks don't know what that means, and that's why they went to Iraq. It's not about some conquest of conversion, it's about loving people because they're worth it.

Posted by: Patch 23-May-2008, 11:38 AM
I am glad they got out and wish them a safe trip home. Promoting Christianity in some areas of the world is just too dangerous.

Slàinte,    

Patch       

Posted by: stoirmeil 24-May-2008, 10:21 PM
QUOTE (Patch @ 23-May-2008, 12:38 PM)
I am glad they got out and wish them a safe trip home. Promoting Christianity in some areas of the world is just too dangerous.

Slàinte,

Patch

I wonder if it's not possible to say that promoting Christianity in some parts of the world, especially unbidden, might be dangerous because it's not really appropriate? I know that's not going to be a welcome thought in some quarters.

In any case, I too am very glad that they are unharmed, and still strong and ready to do the good work of their lives where it finds welcome and takes root.

Posted by: Patch 24-May-2008, 10:35 PM
QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 24-May-2008, 05:21 PM)
QUOTE (Patch @ 23-May-2008, 12:38 PM)
I am glad they got out and wish them a safe trip home.  Promoting Christianity in some areas of the world is just too dangerous.

Slàinte,   

Patch

I wonder if it's not possible to say that promoting Christianity in some parts of the world, especially unbidden, might be dangerous because it's not really appropriate? I know that's not going to be a welcome thought in some quarters.

In any case, I too am very glad that they are unharmed, and still strong and ready to do the good work of their lives where it finds welcome and takes root.

Very true, not being welcome is what makes it dangerous. An acquaintance had a son who became a missionary. He and his wife devised a plan to smuggle Bibles into China. The only thing that kept them from a lengthly stay in a Chinese prison was, they were caught before they entered China. If you are not welcome, do not go. Our Govt. would do well to learn that.

Slàinte,    

Patch   

Posted by: Camac 25-May-2008, 09:50 AM
QUOTE (Patch @ 24-May-2008, 11:35 PM)
QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 24-May-2008, 05:21 PM)
QUOTE (Patch @ 23-May-2008, 12:38 PM)
I am glad they got out and wish them a safe trip home.  Promoting Christianity in some areas of the world is just too dangerous.

Slàinte,   

Patch

I wonder if it's not possible to say that promoting Christianity in some parts of the world, especially unbidden, might be dangerous because it's not really appropriate? I know that's not going to be a welcome thought in some quarters.

In any case, I too am very glad that they are unharmed, and still strong and ready to do the good work of their lives where it finds welcome and takes root.

Very true, not being welcome is what makes it dangerous. An acquaintance had a son who became a missionary. He and his wife devised a plan to smuggle Bibles into China. The only thing that kept them from a lengthly stay in a Chinese prison was, they were caught before they entered China. If you are not welcome, do not go. Our Govt. would do well to learn that.

Slàinte,    

Patch   

I think this will definetly upset some people but in my view the difference between a Christian Missionary and a Radical Muslim is NIL. Both use coercion in one form or another to force their beliefs on those who really don't want them.

Camac.
bash.gif

Posted by: Patch 25-May-2008, 10:41 AM
QUOTE (Camac @ 25-May-2008, 04:50 AM)
QUOTE (Patch @ 24-May-2008, 11:35 PM)
QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 24-May-2008, 05:21 PM)
QUOTE (Patch @ 23-May-2008, 12:38 PM)
I am glad they got out and wish them a safe trip home.  Promoting Christianity in some areas of the world is just too dangerous.

Slàinte,   

Patch

I wonder if it's not possible to say that promoting Christianity in some parts of the world, especially unbidden, might be dangerous because it's not really appropriate? I know that's not going to be a welcome thought in some quarters.

In any case, I too am very glad that they are unharmed, and still strong and ready to do the good work of their lives where it finds welcome and takes root.

Very true, not being welcome is what makes it dangerous. An acquaintance had a son who became a missionary. He and his wife devised a plan to smuggle Bibles into China. The only thing that kept them from a lengthly stay in a Chinese prison was, they were caught before they entered China. If you are not welcome, do not go. Our Govt. would do well to learn that.

Slàinte,    

Patch   

I think this will definetly upset some people but in my view the difference between a Christian Missionary and a Radical Muslim is NIL. Both use coercion in one form or another to force their beliefs on those who really don't want them.

Camac.
bash.gif

I have known more "radical" (?) muslims than Christian missionaries. Several of the few missionaries I knew over the years believed to the point of fanaticism that they HAD to convert the peoples of the world. Personally I am not trying to convert anyone to my religion and expect the same courtesy in return.

If they are welcomed for whatever reason by the host country, let them go.

Slàinte,    

Patch    


Posted by: John Clements 25-May-2008, 11:36 AM
QUOTE (Patch @ 25-May-2008, 11:41 AM)
QUOTE (Camac @ 25-May-2008, 04:50 AM)
QUOTE (Patch @ 24-May-2008, 11:35 PM)
QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 24-May-2008, 05:21 PM)
QUOTE (Patch @ 23-May-2008, 12:38 PM)
I am glad they got out and wish them a safe trip home.  Promoting Christianity in some areas of the world is just too dangerous.

Slàinte,   

Patch

I wonder if it's not possible to say that promoting Christianity in some parts of the world, especially unbidden, might be dangerous because it's not really appropriate? I know that's not going to be a welcome thought in some quarters.

In any case, I too am very glad that they are unharmed, and still strong and ready to do the good work of their lives where it finds welcome and takes root.

Very true, not being welcome is what makes it dangerous. An acquaintance had a son who became a missionary. He and his wife devised a plan to smuggle Bibles into China. The only thing that kept them from a lengthly stay in a Chinese prison was, they were caught before they entered China. If you are not welcome, do not go. Our Govt. would do well to learn that.

Slàinte,    

Patch   

I think this will definetly upset some people but in my view the difference between a Christian Missionary and a Radical Muslim is NIL. Both use coercion in one form or another to force their beliefs on those who really don't want them.

Camac.
bash.gif

I have known more "radical" (?) muslims than Christian missionaries. Several of the few missionaries I knew over the years believed to the point of fanaticism that they HAD to convert the peoples of the world. Personally I am not trying to convert anyone to my religion and expect the same courtesy in return.

If they are welcomed for whatever reason by the host country, let them go.

Slàinte,    

Patch    

Hey, that sounds like a marriage. Someone marries you for who you are, and then immediately tries to change you.

Posted by: Patch 25-May-2008, 12:01 PM
The other side of that coin is you marry someone expecting them not to change and they do. Your description is the worst case scenario though

Slàinte,    

Patch    

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