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| Posted by: Shadows 11-Jun-2004, 07:40 PM |
| First off where did all the topics go... there used to be more here! Spirituality is a persons perception of how they fit into the whole scheme of things. It requires knowledge or understanding of one's complete surroundings and how those things are linked to one another and you. As one grows in understanding and perception, one can only change to fit into those ideals. To limit one's growth in all things spiritual at anyone point along the lifelong path is not in one's interest. Seek all things of the spirit and apply them to your parochial existence. |
| Posted by: RavenWing 11-Jun-2004, 08:17 PM | ||||
Hmm, not sure, I don't delete topics, you never know when you need to bring one back up.
Well said, my friend, and food for thought! |
| Posted by: Shadows 11-Jun-2004, 08:25 PM |
| I knew I did not have to express those views to you... you have found your freedom! |
| Posted by: RavenWing 11-Jun-2004, 08:34 PM |
| Yes I have, and I am a little overwhelmed right now. |
| Posted by: Shadows 11-Jun-2004, 08:46 PM |
| Anything I can do to help relieve that feeling let me know! |
| Posted by: Shadows 11-Jun-2004, 09:50 PM |
| Let me go into more detail: When you move a rock in the forest or yard... what moves about from under? Is this not life! When you spray chemicals about your yard... do birds die next door? When you insult a person... do they not feel rejected and denounced? If you move your fist towards a face does it not cringe in expectaion? Remember every move you make or even think effects the life around you... use caution in your actions and thoughts! |
| Posted by: Crooktooth 19-Jul-2004, 01:07 PM |
| I think a big part of spirituality is aknowledging that it is completely subjective, based on the indvidual. There is no "right" way that suits everyone. |
| Posted by: Aaediwen 19-Jul-2004, 05:18 PM |
| Indeed, everyone has their own beliefs... But are not the fundamentals the same? The same core for which Shadows has already given examples Butterfly effect is a wonderous thing. |
| Posted by: freekenny 23-Jul-2004, 01:45 PM | ||
O'siyo Crooktooth, What a simple, to the point and excellent way of explaining yourself!~~ I agree with you on those words~~ How boring and mundane would life be if we all shared the same beliefs, ideas, thoughts and perspectives?!  I believe spirituality is nurtured...it begins as an idea, becomes a seed, is planted, is feed well with an open-mind, begins to sprout and the 'growing' process never ends..It is with us until our days on Mother Earth cease...it is up to the individual to decide what it is they wish their 'spirituality' to become..for me the fact of the matter is, if one lives life as they wish without harming others, accepting all for what they are, never hindering others views/ideas then we are doing something right..comparison to others 'beliefs' and 'spirituality' will only confuse and hinder us..which in turn will cause us to become 'stale' and that is when an individual becomes 'lost'..without sounding touche', freedom truly is the key to a content body, soul, mind and spirit~~ ~~ Sty-U (stay strong)  |
| Posted by: Shadows 23-Jul-2004, 04:42 PM |
| Seems to me that is what I basicly said in less words.... LOL! |
| Posted by: freekenny 24-Jul-2004, 01:04 AM | ||
O'siyo Shadows,  well, I had to say it in my way too~~ Plus, you are so much more articulate with your words than myself So don't get me for plagerism okay?  ~~Sty-U |
| Posted by: Shadows 24-Jul-2004, 09:34 PM |
| Dear lady don't worry LOL! I will not sue you! Everyone here has the right to say anything in their own way... I was just trying to fortify your message. |
| Posted by: celticwoodsman 15-Sep-2004, 07:20 AM | ||
I have a problem with this statement, and perhaps shadows could perhaps elaborate in more words...lol. There is a "right for everyone... We all have a right to live, and in that right we are privilaged to pray in what we believe in. This may or may not be the exact way theat our neighbor believes, but to the fact of the matter we may not have the same rite, but we all have the same right. Though I speak only on the topic of spirituality so it be noted I do not refer to religion or theocracy...specifically and yet to be plain, we do not all have the same belief, nor may we see that our neighbor believes in what is right versus our rite, BUT we have the right to believe in our own rite. |
| Posted by: Aaediwen 15-Sep-2004, 03:54 PM |
| Shadows isn't talking about civil rights here Sure we all have the same rights to believe as we will and whatever alse. What he's saying here is that there is no one belief system that is right for everyone. Just as you said that not everyone will believe the same way. There is no one 'right' way to believe that will work for everyone. As a result, not everyone will believe the same way. |
| Posted by: Shadows 15-Sep-2004, 08:21 PM |
| Now I believe I am totaly confused! LOL!!! I don't think the quote above is mine, it comes from crookedtooth. But yes Aae you are right in what you say. We all have the free will to choose our own path in the spiritual world. |
| Posted by: celticwoodsman 15-Sep-2004, 10:23 PM |
| yes the quote was from crooktooth, and I did not mean "civil" rights, but that is another pseudophilisophical discussion. I just meant that in spirituality of all sorts there is a correct view shared by most if not all...the do no harm, or "dont be an *" as I have taught it in a meeting or two. Aye some may drum, some may dance, some may do nothing, but in most if not all forms or spirituality enlightenment is not sough through acts ofmalice, but rather for lack of a better word some type of love. |
| Posted by: Shadows 21-Sep-2004, 03:13 PM |
| Twice today I have been called "master" by 2 different folks and twice today I have replied... " Do not call me master!" I am a student and a teacher just like anyone else, we all learn from what knowledge each of us holds and shares. None of us is master over another yet we all can learn from each other if we are willing to share what we know! Do not even out of respect bow to another as "master" for to do so lessons your stature in your own mind as well as theirs and makes you open to manipulation. Look at yourself as master over yourself; and others as teachers or guides. |
| Posted by: celticwoodsman 22-Sep-2004, 02:41 PM |
| to stay on topic in the views of spirituality it is my experience and my belief that we are all given different gifts to be used by the mind's eye through our inner spirit and our body to influence the world and to influence others. In Native terms the gifts of a totem: One who is a coyote is a trickster-teacher, wolves are teachers as well, bears are warriors (hard driven individuals), hawks have a lil more insite into the will of the Great Spirit...etc. I know what i am and have a good track record of knowing what the gifts that others have (if you believe or not that is a different topic) Also to appologize to shadows I was one who refered to him as master. As I explained to him and I state now the term master as I say in my symantics or my definition is a person who has a lil more of one of the above gifts that I have a lil less of, and I recognize their thoughts and insights as a good teaching. If I learn something from you I will treat you with that respect. I dont expect people on this "grove" to want me to refer to any of them as master, for it might inflate their ego. I would also like to expand in this forum a topic perhaps later: the fact of what are the teachings with your totem that you would like to share with others...or feelings of animals in the concept of spirituality. |
| Posted by: freekenny 03-Dec-2004, 03:49 PM | ||
O'siyo, ~ While reading this post I had a thought..imagine that eh? ~~ Neither of us had any control over being conceived therefore, and again, tis my opinion only, I believe life is a privelage and not a right  How one chooses to live their life is their right and having the freedom to do so again, in my opinion, is a privelage  ~~ Sty-U |
| Posted by: Druid_of_Ark 11-Dec-2007, 09:28 PM |
| Okay now I am confused! we have a "Native American" blonde haired lass posting in a Celtic Website! Next we will have a "Celtic" Redheaded Bearded male taking charge of the American Indian Movement! It seems Ironic to me that in her profile she posts her interests in Native American things but not a word about Celtic Connection. I too have a wee bit of Native American blood but I do not find myself following that path I am Scottish to the Kilt! I am not saying the lass does not have a right to post here I am just wondering why? Have the Native Americans shunned her so she sought us out here? Is she perhaps aware of the meaning of Celtic Wisdom? Again I am not arguing as she has a right to post just as I have the right to question why! |