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RebeccaAnn 
Posted: 29-Mar-2007, 08:56 PM
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Thank you oldraven. I always wondered. I am not from Illinois. I just happen to live here since I was 6. My home is the mountains of Virginia. I am a coal miner's grandaughter. I asked Gram my heritage and she told me half our family came over on the ship and the other half were here to greet them. Momma said we are mutts, a mix of just about everything. My 4-H leader called us hines 57 variety. They all taught me to stand proud of who I am and of all my people. The way you put things I guess that would make Jim half German, well acutually Prussian seeing as his mother's people came over before there was a Germany, and half Canadian.
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Posted: 30-Mar-2007, 04:21 PM
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Bill Murry said it best in Stripes. "Our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world! We are the wretched refuse. We're mutts! Here's proof! His nose is cold!"

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Posted: 02-Apr-2007, 06:59 PM
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I don't know Bill Murry and you may be pure mutt with a cold nose but I have found that most mutts including you have a warm heart. It is the warm heart that is the most important. Besides if it wasn't for us mutts that constantly get chased out of places and as a result have become mighty fighters this world wouldn't be much. It is the born fighters and warriors who survive.
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Posted: 03-Apr-2007, 07:44 PM
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asturias and galicia are most certainly celtic nations, read a history book or look it up
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QUOTE (BrengaAstur4me @ 03-Apr-2007, 05:44 PM)
asturias and galicia are most certainly celtic nations, read a history book or look it up

Nice first post. rolleyes.gif


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Posted: 09-Feb-2008, 03:52 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish

The Scots that settled (some unwillingly) in Northern Ireland are called Ulster Scots.
I did an Irish Studies minor in university...it finally comes in handy. lol


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I think I see where there might be some confusion coming in to play here. The Ulster Scots and the Irish that settled in Dal Riada are two different groups separated by a few hundred years.

The Ulster Scots are indeed from Scotland. They were Scots that emigrated and settled in Ulster starting around 1600. They mostly came from Galloway, Ayrshire, the Border, and the Lowlands. There is a really cool museum near Omagh in Northern Ireland the the Ulster-Scot Agency has. http://www.ulsterscotsagency.com/

The Irish that settled in Dal Riada came over much earlier. Clan Lamont's (on my da's side) first recorded Chief is Sir Lauman in 1235. My da's had the genetic tracing done and he is indeed descended from Niall of the Nine Hostages, the progenitor of the Uí Néill in Ireland. The connection between Lamont and Ulster can be seen in the symbol for Ulster and the Lamont clan badge. Both feature a raised left hand.

This second group is the one that is credited with intermarrying with the Picts and settling in Scotland.

It's really easy to get confused with the history of the Celtic Nations! All I can recommend is to read, read, read, and then read some more. And get your butt over there if you can. I was there with my family in Sept 2006 and we're going back next year for the Gathering. And in a few years, I'm moving there!


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This is what I get for trying to post when I'm tired and hungry!

OldRaven said it best - When you get down to it, we're all Celts! In fact, whenever I'm asked for ethnicity on forms, I mark "Other" and the fill in Celt. Confuses the snot out of people around here! tongue.gif
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Not seeing a Czech flag as a 'Celtic Nation', I thought I'd post here smile.gif Folks often ask us (and quite reasonably so) 'What's a band from the Czech Republic doing playing Irish, Scotttish and Breton music?' and our answer is usually, 'Well, apart from it being bloomin lovely music, Celtic-ness is deep in the heart of this country'. There are remains of Celtic settlements and hill forts here, and, well, we have Czech bagpipes too! All the best from Jeremy and Poitin.
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