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Posted by: kriete 17-Jan-2007, 03:26 PM
I am a Trooper who deals with Meth labs on a weekly basis. A few thing to look out for:

RURAL or URBAN AREAS Anhydrous ammonia method (NAZI-BIRCH METHOD)

* Soda bottles with small hose coming out of it

* Propane containers with blue oxidation near the valve, Altered valves, plastic thermos's, hidden along a road or in a treeline

*Coffee Filters with Lumpy powdery substance

*Camping fuel, or any other type of solvent (toluene, acetone , paint thinners)

*Ether cans normally with holes in the bottom of the can

*Gas can's with hoses attached (cut bicycle intertubes ect.)

*Plastic containers laying out next to these other items containing liquids

* lithium batteries (peeled)

* any strong odor of Anhydrous Ammonia or chemical odor

* Empty Pseudoephedrine packages

* pyrex type dishes, Mason jars, or plasticware

* Muriatic/Sulfuric acid with tin foil or (Red Devil Lye or roto rooter, any strong acid, or lye based drain opener)

URBAN or RURAL AREAS RED PHOSPHORUS METHOD

* Muriatic/Sulfuric acid with tin foil or (Red Devil Lye or roto rooter, any strong acid, or lye based drain opener)

* Rock Salt or any salt larger amounts

* large quantities of matches with striker plates removes

*bottles of Iodine and Hydrogen peroxide

*stained fingertips and hands of Meth cooks (reddish, black)

*Hotplates, Mason jars, Pyrex type dishes

* camping fuel

* Look for a lot of Pseudoephedrine packages empty.

* Both types of Meth Manufacturing there will be noticeable changes to the individuals appearance, lifestyle, work (normally lose jobs), demeanor.

* IF YOU SEE ANYTHING, NOT BY ITSELF NORMALLY, CONTACT YOUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. MOST OF THE TIME YOU WILL FIND THESE THING ALL TOGETHER. DON'T TOUCH THE ITEMS!!! METHAMPHETAMINE PRODUCTION PRODUCES ALOT OF NASTY BYPRODUCT THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO INHALE OR TOUCH. CHECK YOUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR BROCHURES THAT MAY BETTER EXPLAIN WHAT TO LOOK FOR. REPLY TO kriete@celticheart IF NEED MORE INFO.

Posted by: Lady of the Loch 17-Jan-2007, 05:08 PM
I have seen this before, or I should say a big huge explanation of it in our local paper. We have had a number of people in the surrounding counties busted for it and from what I have heard it is extremely dangerous materials when combined together. It's scary to think that people put that into their bodies or smoke it or what ever they actual do with it. That is probably why their appearance alters, right? but there has to be some effect on the body itself, wouldn't it?

Posted by: TheCarolinaScotsman 17-Jan-2007, 06:14 PM
The meth labs in NC have decreased dramatically since the state passed a law putting all cold remedies with pseudoephedrine and/or ephedrine behind the pharmacy counter. (No more convenience stores) If your state has no such law, ask you representatives why not and demand one.

Posted by: Dade 17-Jan-2007, 08:19 PM
They had to alter Nyquil too, because kids were using it for a cheep high.

Posted by: kriete 18-Jan-2007, 09:46 AM
We got the new Pseudo laws a year ago and it has helped alot. and yes, it alters their appearance dramatically. My unit I'm on is strictly Meth reactive and proactive. We have dealt with over 250 Meth Labs in a 10 county area and put a few hundred in prison for awhile. It is ammazing how we have been doing this for about 1 1/2 yr now and we have arrested the same people 4-5 times doing the same thing. They can't stop. I have seen numerous 30 yr olds that look 50-60 yrs old.

Posted by: Rindy 18-Jan-2007, 10:31 AM
Hello kriete it’s nice to see you..
Thank you for posting what to look for with the meth. This is nothing to brag about but where I live we are #3 in the nation for meth problems. Thank you for helping to fight this battle. It has affected so many people it is really sad. I thought I would post this poem. Sad but so true.


SHERIFF ASHE SHARES POEM ABOUT CRYSTAL METHANPHETAMINE

1. This is a poem passed on to me by a relative of the 21 year old female who lost her life while addicted to crystal meth. This is a true happening. A 21 year old female was addicted to crystal meth, overdosed, and lost her life.
After her death, they were cleaning out her apartment and in her top dresser drawer, found a poem she had written.

Meet Mr. and Mrs. Crystal Meth.
I destroy homes – I tear families apart.
I take your children and that’s just a start.
I’m more valued than diamonds, more precious than gold.
The sorrow I bring is a sight to behold.
If you need me, remember, I’m easily found.
I live all around you, in school and in town.
I live with the rich, I live with the poor.
I live just down the street and maybe next door.
I’m made in a lab, but not one like you think.
I can be made under the kitchen sink,
In your child’s closet, and even out in the woods.
If this scares you to death, then it certainly should.
I have many names. But there’s one you’ll know best.
I’m sure you’ve heard of me, my name is Crystal Meth.
My power is awesome, try me, you’ll see.
But if you do, you may never break free.
Just try me once and I might let you go.
But if you try me twice, then I’ll own your soul.
When I possess you, you’ll steal and you’ll lie.
You’ll do what you have to do, just to get high.
The crimes you commit for my narcotic charms,
Will be worth the pleasures you feel in my arms.
You’ll lie to your mother; you’ll steal from your dad.
When you see their tears, you must feel sad.
Just forget your morals and how you were raised.
I’ll be your conscience, I’ll teach you my ways.
I take kids from their parents; I take parents from their kids.
I turn people from God, I separate friends.
I’ll take everything from you, your looks and your pride.
I’ll be with you always, right by your side.
You’ll give up everything, your family, your home.
Your money, your true friend, then you’ll be alone.
I’ll take and take till you have no more to give.
When I finish with you, you’ll be lucky to live.
If you try me, be warned, this is not a game.
If I’m given the chance, I’ll drive you insane.
I’ll ravage your body; I’ll control your mind.
I’ll own you completely; your soul will be mine.
The nightmares I’ll give you when you’re lying in bed,
And the voices you’ll hear from inside your head.
The sweats, the shakes, and the visions from me.
I want you to know these things are gifts from me.
But then it’s too late, and you’ll know in your heart
That you are now mine and we shall not part.
You’ll regret that you tried me (they always do).
But you came to me, not I to you.
You knew this would happen.
Many times you’ve been told.
But you challenged my power,
You chose to be bold.
You could have said no and then walked away.
If you could live that day over now, what would you say?
My power is awesome, as I told you before.
I can take your life and make it so dim and sore.
I’ll be your master and you’ll be my slave.
I’ll even go with you when you go to your grave.
Now that you’ve met me, what will you do?
Will you try me or not? It’s all up to you.
I can show you more misery than words can tell.
Come take my hand, let me lead you to H---.
Written by
Alicia VanDavis

Posted by: stoirmeil 18-Jan-2007, 12:02 PM
Thanks for posting this, kriete -- this kind of information can't be emphasized too much. People completely underestimate the power of the "hook" with stimulant addiction, especially adolescents and young adults who have never had their self-efficacy challenged by anything they can't handle, and feel super-in-control. If you want to know more about the physical and psychological effects, you can start with the Wikipedia article, which is not bad at all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine

And here is a particularly clear, "plain-talking" site about the mental health effects, especially when the drug is used by people who already have mental health issues and are trying to self-medicate their symptoms:
http://www.crystalneon.org/html/meth/mental1.html
(Warning -- this is a site for gay men, and some of the links from it contain explicitly gay-interest material. But the description of mental health issues is very good.)

Posted by: kriete 20-Feb-2007, 12:33 AM
I'm not sure how many people are from the New York City area, but there is a new young legislator who took the time to come over to Illinois. Another Agent and I gave them a presentation and told them of the future oncomings of this drug if they don't put some laws into place. We recieved a newspaper clipping a few weeks ago talking about the new propositions this legislator is trying to bring into the State of New York. It is very similiar to Illinois's Law since that is the material we provided him. Please support him if you want to make a difference. Trust me I have cleaned up 6 labs in the last 2 weeks and We only cover 5 counties. It is a plague that is not going away.

Stay Safe my Friends,

Kriete

Posted by: Rindy 20-Feb-2007, 09:25 AM
Hi kriete. Is there somewhere we can sign something on line? I know where I live a lot of bills are being passed even to the point of giving the mother who has a child while she is a meth addicted a fine. This is all so much bigger and serious than people know. I agree with you its a plague.
Thank you in all that your doing.

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Posted by: Rindy 15-May-2007, 06:57 PM
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/drugs/candymeth.asp

True. For more information, click link above.
There is a very scary thing going on in the schools right now
that all
need to be aware of. There is a type of crystal meth going
around that
looks like strawberry poprocks. It smells like strawberry also
and it is
being handed out to kids in school yards in TX. I'm sure it will
make
its way around the country if it hasn't already. Kids are
ingesting this
thinking that it is candy and being rushed off to the E.R. in
dire
condition. Please instruct your children to not accept candy
that looks
like this even from a friend and to take any that they may have
to a
teacher, principal, etc. Please pass this around it could save
some
family a lot of heartache!

That is what they are calling strawberry meth or strawberry
quick.

Thought you might want to know.


Posted by: Roberto Phoenix 15-May-2007, 10:03 PM
Seems to be getting worse nowadyas. Our small town of 5000 just had its third meth lab bust in less than two years this last Friday. Two adults and a kid. Adults were arrested but the kid was turned over to a foster home so I wonder how young the munckin was. It's getting ugly out there people.

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