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| Posted by: Druid_of_Ark 10-Dec-2007, 02:41 PM |
| I support the Welsh tales of King Arthur, what about you? |
| Posted by: Aaediwen 10-Dec-2007, 04:39 PM |
| The Welsh tales as told in The Mabinogion! |
| Posted by: jime307 10-Dec-2007, 06:29 PM |
| I agree as well. |
| Posted by: Dogshirt 10-Dec-2007, 06:52 PM |
I'm inclined to belive the scenario painted by Jack Whyte in the "Camulod Chronicals". That of a Romano-British king. |
| Posted by: 0Ash0Tree0 13-Feb-2008, 03:36 PM |
| I thought he was Scottish. I'm a MacArthur so I guess you can see why I'd think that. Welsh, really? |
| Posted by: Druid_of_Ark 13-Feb-2008, 05:57 PM |
| Aye the most viable account for King Arthur is that he was a 5th Century CE Welsh King. Though as a Scot I would love for it to be proven tha he was Scottish. However Scotland has William Wallace and Rob Roy McGregor so I guess we can let the Welsh have a Hero too. Besides had it nae been for Myrddin King Arthur would nae have been even a footnote in History. |
| Posted by: Camac 13-Feb-2008, 07:34 PM |
| 13/02/08 Druid of Ark; There is more than enough credible evidence to show that Arthur was a Welsh speaking Briton who lived in the south west corner of Scotland. These people were eventually pushed south into what is now Wales and Cornwall. It is believed that Arthur was King in the late 6th century. On Arthurs shield there are depicted three crowns That of Dalriada, Strathclyde and Goddodin. Look up the Clan Arthur web site and scroll down to "The Scottish History of King Arthur and Clann Arthur". Camac. |
| Posted by: Druid_of_Ark 13-Feb-2008, 07:40 PM |
| Tapadh leat |
| Posted by: Camac 13-Feb-2008, 07:54 PM |
| I am not to familiar with the Gaelic tongue but if what you wrote means what I think it does then let say that resorting to crudity merely shows the extent of ones intelligence or lack of. Camac. |
| Posted by: TandVh 14-Feb-2008, 05:57 PM | ||
tapadh leibh- literal translation- "strength with you" Scots Gaidhlig for "thank you" |
| Posted by: Camac 14-Feb-2008, 07:40 PM |
| 14/02/08 Druid of Arc I owe you my most profound apologies for my curt posting. The individual who told me what it meant is now hanging by his toes from the rafters over a slow peat fire. Camac. |
| Posted by: Druid_of_Ark 15-Feb-2008, 07:44 PM |
| Apology accepted. But in the future I suggest that you remember the auld adage, "Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool than tae open yer mouth and remove all doubt." I was a bit stunned that you would think me being crude, as I hae never been crude on the posts it is not in my nature. But Beannacht ort (Blessed be). |
| Posted by: Amergin 11-Jul-2008, 08:34 PM |
| Yeah, Arthur was definitely Welsh. I remember because I used to be Tim the Enchanter. Tim? |
| Posted by: Robert Phoenix 11-Jul-2008, 09:47 PM | ||
Well that explains why I see so much of Authurian stuff on Cornwall websites. Any thoughts on where he rose to power? I seem to sense a bit of a rivalry sometimes over Cornish and Welsh websites over Arthur. |
| Posted by: Camac 12-Jul-2008, 07:04 AM | ||||
Robert Phoenix; Being a MacArthur I will naturally support the claim the Arthur was Scots and that the Clann MacArthur are descendants. There are many stories and theories of Arthur, most based on Legend. There is a book by David F. Carroll, "Arturius, A Quest for Camelot", that throws some historical facts into the equation. You might find it interesting and informative.  Camac. |
| Posted by: Lady of Avalon 12-Jul-2008, 03:16 PM |
| Mossieur Camac, I'm neither a Scot nor Welsh nor English BUT I do support the tale of Arthur to be of Welsh origins.    Thank you very much...Lady of Avalon. |
| Posted by: Robert Phoenix 13-Jul-2008, 02:43 PM |
| Thanks for the info Carmac. I'll have to see if I can find it on my next trip to the bookstore. |
| Posted by: Rhymer 03-Nov-2010, 08:26 AM |
| Arthur or Arturius was never a king,I have searched the king lists for years no "King" Arthur. He was not welsh, The Mabinigoin never mentions Arthur, the only reference to Arthur was in the poem "Y Gododdin". A historical record of the Birtons battle at Catraeth (modern day Catterick) against the Anglo Saxons, another glorious defeat. The Gododdin or Votadinii had many connections with Gwynedd, in the 5thc ad Cunedda of Gogoddin emigrated south to help his Cymric brethern fight the Irish Pirates. Thus began a long assosciation with the Welsh. It has been written that many of the Gododdin annals were moved to Wales as the Anglo-Saxon conquest took hold. In the history of Dal Riata (Modern Argyll) it states that they came from Ulster, settled at Dun Add and moved into the rest of Alba.Aedan Mac Gabran was Righ or King, he had five sons ,one of whom was called Arturius. the Dal riatins also controlled Manau-Gododdin whose chief town was Camelon nr Falkirk.His mother was Pictish, his sister in law was called Morganna and his wife was Anora.Loch Lomond was and still is referred to as "the Lake". Near Arrochar at Loch Long is a mountain called "The Cobbler" or Ben Arthur. In Edinburgh we have Arthurs seat. Just another strand to the argument. Slainte. |
| Posted by: camac 21-Mar-2014, 08:16 AM |
| I am firmly in agreement of those who support the Scottish claim that Arthur was a Welsh speaking Briton living in Scotland. The Clan MacArthur of which I am an adopted member claims descent from him. Also on the MacArthur Coat of Arms are the 3 crowns of the Kingdoms of Rheged, Dalriada, and Strathclyde all located in the southwest part of Scotland. |