After 4-5 emails to the provider they have gone silent and the military person have not re-contacted us.
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| Posted by: CelticRadio 09-Aug-2009, 07:46 AM |
| Well its official, Celtic Radio is no longer available to the troops in Iraq. Recent correspondence we received shows they are blocking our site via the military's Internet Provider. After 4-5 emails to the provider they have gone silent and the military person have not re-contacted us. Welcome to the new America! Change we needed! |
| Posted by: SCShamrock 09-Aug-2009, 09:19 AM | ||
Change we can believe in? ++ + Barack Hussein Obama. Before you Obama supporters reply in defense of your messiah, remember how you blame(d) GWB for EVERYFRICKINTHING. |
| Posted by: MacEoghainn 09-Aug-2009, 09:25 AM | ||
Did "they" give a reason? |
| Posted by: Camac 09-Aug-2009, 09:31 AM |
Why in the name of Beelzabub's Bloated Belly would they block the station? This is American Democracy the land of Liberty and Freedom? Bull   Camac |
| Posted by: WallaceGal 09-Aug-2009, 09:33 AM |
| I've been following the Politics Online forum for a long time now. I generally don't comment on politics because...well, you all know what ends up happening. But this time, I need to say something. We had the biggest turnout of black voters in Michigan for this past presidential election than we have for decades. These people didn't vote for Obama's platform. They voted for the color of his skin. Period. They weren't the only ones. And now, we're paying the price. That is all... |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 09:39 AM |
| That sucks and ramps the socialist idea to communism or nazism. With the new health care looking much like Hitlers final solution for a segment of the population it does not look good. I wonder what the left will say about this! I will contact my rep and my senators though I expect little from the senators. If we could spread the word, this would be an easy fix! Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Camac 09-Aug-2009, 09:56 AM |
| Patch; I'm one of those despised Liberals, albeit from a different country and let me say that "sucks" is to mild an expletive for this. He who controls the media controls the heart, mind and thoughts of the people. I believe someone named Goebbels said that but I could be wrong. Tell a lie big enough and long enough and it becomes the truth.Also I believe Goebbels. Camac. |
| Posted by: Mailagnas maqqas Dunaidonas 09-Aug-2009, 10:25 AM |
| It's almost as though BHO is taking lessons from the tyrants in Iran who are trying to control internet access as a means of stifling dissent. People who wonder how Nazi Germany happened only need to look at what's happening in the US now. |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 10:35 AM | ||
Yes, he was the propaganda minister and he did a fine job of convincing the German people to accept every atrocity committed by the german govt. It should be of concern to all. Unfortunately it will take more work to make this an issue. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: CelticRadio 09-Aug-2009, 10:59 AM |
| The Military's ISP tried to blame our ISP; however, this retired Military person (will not release his name but he is in Wikipedia for some of his heroics), stated that the error message he was receiving stated the site was being blocked by the Military ISP. Perhaps it is because of some of the negative posts on Obama here, but that is just not fair because we have always allowed both side of the issues to be discussed here in the Politics Forum. I can remember some very heated negative posts about Bush and Cheney; but no one ever blocked that persons views. Of course, maybe this is a new tactic in line with the recent "snitch" email address that has been setup to report websites too: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/07/white-house-collect-fishy-info-health-reform-illegal-critics-say/ These are just dirty politics. |
| Posted by: TheCarolinaScotsman 09-Aug-2009, 11:02 AM |
| Has anyone determined that Obama is responsible or even knows about this? Could it be the idea of some low level flunky to conserve bandwidth for military purposes. (I didn't say it was a rational reason, just something a bureaucrat might come up with.) Until the source and reasoning behind this can be determined, I'd say it's a little early to be throwing blame. (And SC Shamrock, I'm not one of those who blamed Bush for everything. He made many mistakes, but he is no more Satan than Obama is.) Having said that, this is an outrage that needs to be redressed now if not sooner. |
| Posted by: Camac 09-Aug-2009, 11:02 AM |
| Patch; Up until the late sixties early seventies each Province had a Censorship Board mainly concerned about movies and T.V. Thankfully they are long gone. There are those who would argue that we still have censorship because of the anti-hate laws and laws against child pornography but the are a very small minority and any sane person would agree with that type of censorship. To block a Radio station is ludicrous and is usually done through fear. We both know that the military is not a Democracy but it has no right or business interfereing in the public airways.We use to listen to Hanoi Hannah all the time . It was a big joke. Camac. |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 11:10 AM |
| Paul, I fear this is the beginning. It infringes on the liberty and the Constitutional rights of Americans. I was aware of (I call it the Judas program) snitch program but did not know it was working yet. Should you be right about the latter, the problem originated from within the site. That is sad! This will be very interesting to watch! Do you mind if I use your two posts in complaining to my conservative congressman? Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: WallaceGal 09-Aug-2009, 11:15 AM |
| Whether or not it is a 'low level flunky,' which it may very well be, the final burden rests on the president. Most people didn't pay attention to his socialist platform during the presidential pre-election period. They were more concerned with "getting them d***** republicans out of there." Well, they did. Now look where we are. Would Cheney have been a good president? I don't know. I do know I don't want government health care, I want my money to go where I want it to, and if I want to send radio waves to another country, that the freedom the constitution grants me to do so must be upheld. You have a president who disrespects the country he's in charge of so much, he refuses to place his hand over his heart for the Pledge of Allegiance. And people are just starting to wonder where our freedoms are going now. We're losing them. One by one. And this is just another example. Remember, he picked all his 'flunkies.' |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 11:22 AM |
| Very well said!! I would hope the service will be reinstated WITHOUT restrictions! Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: MacDonnchaidh 09-Aug-2009, 11:26 AM |
| Obama is quite obviously an avid reader of books. A few pages from Mein Kampf have already taken a foothold in the U.S due to his policies; it's only a matter of time before that book is mandatory reading in the public schools. You must admit he learns from the best in the business, as far as rhetoric and public speaking he is almost as good as Hitler, now it seems he's copying a bit of Goebbels. I just can't wait until he tries to imitate good ol' Heinrich Himmler, I wonder if he's saving that for his second term or just 'til after Christmas..... (P.S. for those of you without a funny bone [you know who you are], note the sarcasm in my post before taking it seriously). |
| Posted by: SCShamrock 09-Aug-2009, 12:10 PM | ||
If it works for them, it works for us. It's Odumba's fault, and he should be exiled with Castro. |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 12:23 PM | ||
So noted. However, humor is borne of reality! Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 12:32 PM | ||
The Hanoi radio broadcast had just started when I was there. This has been a weekend of memories. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 12:52 PM |
| It sure is quiet here now! Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Camac 09-Aug-2009, 01:32 PM |
| Patch; I like the quiet. Gives me time to think or plot my next nefarious action. Camac |
| Posted by: stoirmeil 09-Aug-2009, 01:37 PM |
| Personally, I'd like to have some verified facts about why this has happened before spewing and hitting "send." |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 02:38 PM | ||
Camac Ah, you are a man of my thinking! I thought Paul might have more information by now. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: WallaceGal 09-Aug-2009, 02:45 PM |
| I'm still here, FWIW. Just watching to see what's going on. I imagine if Paul gets more info, he'll post it here. I don't doubt the validity of Paul's contact. It just scares me to think what awful shape this country is going to be in after this four year term is over. |
| Posted by: Camac 09-Aug-2009, 02:47 PM |
| Patch; I think the reason we think alike is that I am only 9 days older than you we're both Libras and most importantly WE ARE TWO OLD FARTS..... Yeah I thought Paul would expand on the posting. There has to be a reason. Camac. |
| Posted by: stoirmeil 09-Aug-2009, 02:52 PM | ||
I don't doubt the validity of anything Paul does on this site, not for one minute. Unless I read it incorrectly, however, he hasn't got any cause confirmed yet, just some hunches. I have no idea what other possibilities may be, but I want to see something confirmed before I go sputtering off about totalitarian censorship. |
| Posted by: WallaceGal 09-Aug-2009, 02:59 PM | ||||
I don't think anyone's expecting you to 'sputter off,' but I do think this is a forum that allows equal voice to all. And I don't think I've seen anything that bans speculation based on information. Maybe I'm wrong. I often am, or am told so. Mostly because I'm also in the 'old fartess' category. |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 03:05 PM | ||
Camnac: I suspect our life experiences are quite similar. We lived through the same times. By the way, I will be gone during the day Monday but will check in on "Health Matters" topic between 4 and 5 PM. I have to be in the Capital first thing Tuesday morning and since I do not do mornings well I will go down tomorrow night. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 03:08 PM | ||
With age comes true wisdom. It makes up for some of the "losses." Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: stoirmeil 09-Aug-2009, 03:15 PM | ||
It does allow equal voice, first of all. And that includes my voice, which says there have been some very outraged and pointedly accusatory statements made here that may or may not hold water about what has happened, when we don't know yet. Speculation is certainly not banned -- speculation even about descent into totalitarian censorship -- but it may be in error, so outraged accusations are at the very least premature. When we know for sure that we have been cut off because of the politically objectionable nature of our commentary, that's the time to scream First Amendment violation. For what it's worth, being a "fart" is not always tied to age, and being old is not in itself a reason to be wrong. But that is a very general observation, and not aimed at anyone in particular. |
| Posted by: WallaceGal 09-Aug-2009, 03:17 PM | ||||
I understand. I shall return to my silent, lurking status then and keep my mouth shut. |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 03:21 PM | ||
I share your concerns. We are a year from legislative elections so there is hope. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Antwn 09-Aug-2009, 03:22 PM | ||
I see its a habit you've picked up very well indeed Shamrock....a contagion perhaps? Those who lambasted Bush the most (calling him "The Shrub") don't even post on the political forums any longer. On a related note, I do think its rather interesting that this thread is entitled "Obama Blocks Celtic Radio" as if he were personally involved, when according to what we know so far, the site is blocked at a military ISP for unknown reason(s). |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 03:25 PM | ||
One should always be free to speak their opinion and yours is every bit as good as anyone elses! Hang in there Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: stoirmeil 09-Aug-2009, 03:26 PM | ||
Sad, and a loss to the forum, but your own choice. As long as you attribute it to self-censorship and nothing more. |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 03:26 PM | ||
I called him that and I post! Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: WallaceGal 09-Aug-2009, 03:29 PM | ||||
Sadly, self-censorship has nothing to do with it. Your post was very clear on the subject. thanks |
| Posted by: Camac 09-Aug-2009, 03:42 PM |
| Wallacegal; I'm an old fart and I'm always right. That is except when I'm wrong. Freedom of speech is fundamental to any free society. Being an outsider I am not that aware of the ins and outs of your First Ammendment but I am assuming it is much like our Freedom of Speech clause in our Charter of Rights. There is a slight difference though in that we have freedom of speech until it violates the hate laws. Other than that I can say what I want and I defy anyone to say I can't. If you have an opinion about a topic it is your right to express it. Within the proper decorums of course. If Celtic Radio is blocked from the Armed Services and it is because of our commentaries then shame on those responsible. The problem right now is of course we are lacking explicit information as to what is happening. Camac. |
| Posted by: stoirmeil 09-Aug-2009, 03:51 PM | ||
If you say you're going to go back to lurking silently and keeping your mouth shut, how is that not self-censorship -- assuming you want to participate -- when no one else is consigning you to that role? |
| Posted by: Antwn 09-Aug-2009, 03:52 PM | ||
Thank you Patch, I stand corrected, but on that point only. |
| Posted by: stoirmeil 09-Aug-2009, 04:03 PM |
| I seem to recall seeing a post earlier that has been deleted -- if I remember it correctly -- having to do with the "snitch" link, and the implication that the snitching would then have to be coming from inside the membership. First of all, there are probably thousands of unregistered non-members viewing this site each week, not including the "bots"; then, to my knowledge, the politics forum is not concealed (if it is, mods please correct me); and finally, this would be a very divisive and problematic observation to be making. In a destructive direction similar to yelling "Fire!" in an occupied theater. |
| Posted by: Faerydreamer 09-Aug-2009, 04:09 PM |
| I generally do not get involved with politics. I have to say that this is very unfair. This does not sound like democracy to me. |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 04:14 PM |
| You are welcome. I suspect Paul has a much better idea than we do. I knew it was proposed but did not know the "Judas" site was actually established. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Patch 09-Aug-2009, 04:45 PM | ||
I believe most are concerned at even the "hint" of a First Amendment infringement. Thanks for your opinion! Slàinte, Patch |
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| Posted by: SCShamrock 09-Aug-2009, 10:28 PM |
| Well if anyone doesn't like that Obama's being singled out, you may find some solace in sending an email to [email protected]. An aside; where are the ravenous dogs who rode Bush's ass for 7 years over domestic wiretapping and the war? They seem to give Obama a pass for expanding what was so evil of Bush to engage in. |
| Posted by: Sonee 09-Aug-2009, 10:37 PM |
| Well, once again I find myself compelled to add my voice to the many already here..... I don't think it really matters at this point WHO actually instigated the blocking of the station. The fact that it was blocked, then that blockage was reported, then NOTHING was done about it proves that there is a problem somewhere and that problem almost HAS to be fairly high up on the food chain. If it was just a basic software/hardware/wiring/ISP problem then whoever's side that problem was on would go about fixing it and get the station up and running agian. If it is not getting fixed in due time then that is because someone is ordering it NOT to get fixed. No matter WHO that person is, the order is a direct violation of our rights. Regardless of who issued the order. THAT is the problem that needs to be addressed and our lackluster president should be the one to do it....IF he actually cares about our rights, which it doesn't appear that he does. |
| Posted by: Patch 10-Aug-2009, 01:39 AM | ||
Congratulations, you have stated this as well as it can be stated. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Shadows 10-Aug-2009, 02:31 PM |
| I am going to put in my two pence here: I seriously doubt that Obama has even heard of Celtic Radio personaly, this site is not the only one being "blocked" ! A lot of internet stations that don't "tow the line" are being effected the same way. This decission was made by the military censers ( remenber GOOD MORNING VIETNAM )...not the white house. I did not vote for Obama, but do think he is personaly being blamed for stuff I really hope he does not have the time to worry with... We have more pressing issues as a country! Place the blame where it belongs. |
| Posted by: Antwn 10-Aug-2009, 03:04 PM | ||
Thank you! Not only do we have more pressing issues as a country, the troops in Iraq have more pressing issues. Amazing how people here will decry the lack of respect paid to the fighting men and women in Iraq yet whine when they have more pressing matters to attend to than Celtic Radio, and if they don't rectify an access problem immediately you'd think the entire constitution of the United States had been circumvented. Has paranoia completely taken the place of sense? We still don't know what the access issue is, but that doesn't stop the conspiratorial crowd. Obama's personally responsible for denying the troops our precious website because he doesn't care about our rights!! At least the troops are denied access to some of that crap. Bless 'em. Shadows is right. Not only does Obama and the military have more important things to worry about, but that's a profound understatement. I say this not to disparage Celtic Radio but to say, lets put some perspective on the issue! |
| Posted by: Dogshirt 10-Aug-2009, 07:09 PM |
| When I was in the Army in the early 70s, we got ALL of our tv and radio from Armed Forces Radio and Television. They controlled what we saw, and what we heard. Partly as censorship, but also because we were in a foreign country and the media there was rather incomprehensible to the majority of us. While I realize the technology has changed GREATLY in the last 40 years, there is still only so much that the military can and will do for our troops. This sounds more like a CAN do rather than a WILL do to me.  |
| Posted by: CelticRadio 10-Aug-2009, 08:19 PM |
| There has been some talk about Obama not personally being involved in blocking Celtic Radio and I do agree with those that Obama probably does not care about this site nor any other site on the sub 500,000 list of websites. However, I honestly believe that what we are witnessing here is a controlling of media and government to an extent that we have never seen before. Heck, our boys in the battlefield should be able to visit any site they want to - especially if they are putting their lives on the line. Why should the government filter sites that they deem unfit unless of course it has something to do with terrorist activity or breach of security. It starts at the top and filters down to all of the lower level government administrators. So, in a way it does have something to do with Obama, but I agree, he did not say "Stop the soldiers in Iraq from visiting CelticRadio.net"  |
| Posted by: Sonee 11-Aug-2009, 01:24 AM |
| That was exactly my point.....even though/if he didn't PERSONALLY order the blockage the ability of anyone or any group or any organization to block things like this can only be done because Obama allows it in other areas or in other things. People are realizing that the 'powers that be' are trampling on our constitution in all sorts of ways so they feel comfortable and/or obligated and/or like it is their 'right' to stop others from enjoying thier rights. I really don't see how the trampling of our constitution and usurping of our rights one by one right out from under our noses is not pressing. What difference does any other problem we have make if we have no freedoms? You say that this is not circumventing our constitution but actually it is. This is how it starts, and it picks up speed by people like you who don't see anything wrong with what has happened, don't see the bigger picture. If nothing is done about this in a properly outraged manner the kinds of people that perpetrate this kind of censor gain power and confidence and things begin to escalate until it is too late. This in and of itself may not be the worst thing the world has seen, but it is the troubling beginning of a road we do NOT want to travel down. To avoid the kinds of atrocities the rest of us can see coming it is time we nip this in the bud. |
| Posted by: Antwn 11-Aug-2009, 01:23 PM | ||
Fine, so enlighten me please in what specific ways the constitution is being trampled upon, circumvented, undermined etc. please. |
| Posted by: Patch 11-Aug-2009, 03:38 PM | ||
The first. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: englishmix 11-Aug-2009, 04:01 PM |
| That's the new USA. The AUDACITY of change!!!! Say good bye to your liberty! Say good bye to hope! All this is but the beginning of trials and tribulation under these creeps and crooks. Repent ye who voted these !@^$#@ into office! Its about time to take your OBAMA bumper sticker off that government owned car of yours, don't you think? |
| Posted by: Patch 11-Aug-2009, 04:07 PM | ||
Were it not for the timing it would not be quite so suspicious. Those with military background know that when an officer says fix it there are plenty of "troops" in communications sitting around scratching themselves who could and would jump right on it! I agree with Dogshirt that access was tightly controlled during VN but since and especially under bush it was wide open. The illusion of wrong doing is as bad as the deed it's self. I must agree with Paul. If it smells bad, it very likely IS! Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: stoirmeil 11-Aug-2009, 05:48 PM | ||
Paul, if you're at liberty to say, how much do you really know for sure about where this constraint is coming from? "The government" is too big a target somehow. |
| Posted by: CelticRadio 11-Aug-2009, 07:41 PM |
| I will try writing to the Sgt. and see if he can access the site in a few days. Been pretty much away from Celtic Radio the past week working on renovating my backyard deck. But I do appreciate everyones respectful posts. I did have to edit one post and I am sure the poster was just really upset by the fact the site was blocked for military personal in Iraq. From what I am seeing on the news, they just don't want anyone complaining or expressing their views unless it is in total agreement with their views. I wonder what other sites they are blocking. |
| Posted by: Patch 12-Aug-2009, 11:36 AM |
| Unfortunately that is not representative of a Democracy or a Representative Republic. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: CelticRadio 13-Aug-2009, 08:46 PM |
| Good news. I heard from the retired Sgt. who is currently serving in Iraq and he can access Celtic Radio! Not sure if one of you fine members is behind this, but he is very thankful he can now access the site and broadcast music.  We are going to send the Sgt. a CD and a bumper sticker. If you would like to send a message, just post it here and we will print out and send it to him. Thanks again! |
| Posted by: englishmix 13-Aug-2009, 09:20 PM |
| Greetings fellow comrads! I have good news for you. Rest assured that The Obama and the Council of Czars knows what is best for you and for all of us. So no more squawking or complaining or you shall be reported! Remember, we have local community groups of brown shirts in your neighborhood, so we know who you are. The Obama would be greatly pleased to learn of that Sgt's name and whoever the mean-spirited radical he is connected with at Celtic Radio. Why should you be upset? You have no right! Rights come from your government not some silly god of legendary children's bedtime stories. Remember, our country and globe are in the middle of the worst economic disaster we have ever seen - do you dare question The Obama? And what of your health care under private insurance companies? Do you not see your neighbors dying in the gutter every day and doctors who cut out children's tonsils and adult's feet just so they can get more money. You need to be delivered from this evil and the Obama is working very hard for you to give you free healthcare. We are not nuts - we are ACORNS. Continue to surrender all for the good of the Obama - the one who saves us all. That is all. Now get back in line for your government handout. P.S. It is highly recommended that you go to the following link and vote favorably for The Obama or it may be that celtic radio may be unfit for anyone in the Americas. http://www.celticradio.net/php/forums/index.php?showtopic=13720&hl= |
| Posted by: Patch 13-Aug-2009, 10:14 PM | ||
Excellent news! I can not thank those who serve enough as it is they who continue to make America the great country it is! I pray that God will keep them safe from all harm. Slàinte, Patch |
