The End Times, Are we there yet?

John, DO NOT bang your head against the walls of Jericho! They already fell down in the book of Joshua !

You know that you and I agree on almost nothing. Having said that, I honestly enjoy the give and take. Doesn't bother me a bit that you post here as long as I can still post my revolting Republican views in the political forum !

And I am interested in your trip. Sounds like the trip of a lifetime. I don't think the Great Whites will eat you. You're probably way too "gamey" tasting for them.

John, I wish you would take a look at some of the prophecies with regards to the end times. It is interesting how that many of the things that needed to be in place for certain things to happen have occurred in our lifetimes. I wish you weren't so put off with religion in general, but I understand it. Trust me, I get put off by a lot of what goes on in the name of religion. But I do believe the Bible and find that the prophetic passages that it contains help verify it's authenticity with me.

Anyway, always enjoy the "battles" with you. BTW, when does the Costa Rica trip take place?

Have a great day, my friend! And watch out for those falling bricks from Jericho!

JC. No problem. Hey I know that there are a lot of Christians that can turn stomachs better then turning folks away from sin. Trust me. I've been around them.

I hope JC does make it back from snorkling in Costa Rica. We just gotta love him.

Hey guys, rest assured that I take no offence at being called either, “salty, or gamey, in fact I take them both as complements. And all I can say is that I hope that the end times don’t come before January 13, because that’s when we’ll be leaving for Costa Rica, for a period eight days. As usual, other then having airline tickets, we have no definite plans, except to rent a SUV, and aim it at the west cost of the country, which is just the way we toured Scotland, a couple of years a go, and I’m still amazed, that we came home from that trip, which would be hard to top. All in all, it should make for an exciting trip. By the way, did you know that the literacy rate in Costa Rica, is at 93%, and the violent crime rate is one of the lowest in the world. Now I ask you, what does that saying about the state of affairs here in the good old US of A? Yesterday I got a video from the library. Its title is.” Retire In Costa Rica.” You never know? Talk on you later, I actually have some work to do.
JC
P.S. Does anyone know how to say… do you know the way to San Jose… in Spanish?

Hey John, just wanted you to know that I've put in a word with the Lord to see if we can hold off the end times until you get back from your trip !

Seriously, have a great time. I've heard nothing but good things about Costa Rica from those who have been there. Looking forward to hearing how it goes.

We are making a quick run to Texas for Christmas to spend time with our sons. It's not Costa Rica, but a good time will be had by all!

OK, OK. JC we love ya. Now lets get back to the topic. I think the end times arn't the end of the world but the end of the age. As we know it.

The more I hear the news everyday, the more I celebrate that Christ's return is even closer.

Agree, NS! Even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus!

Hey Haynes, who needs Pelosi? You've got Bush.

It's called Iraq . . . sounds like the great tribulation to me.


Just a thought,
Rory MacAibhistin

Classic, Rory! Classic!

I came across this on Spirit Daily yesterday. I wasn't going to post it at first but then when I saw this thread was active again I thought what the heck. The article does sum up some things and brings in some other viewpoints form the Muslim side, among others, about the end times.

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=a...Abaya_mar1_2007

The article is interesting but I think trying to predict the end times is worthless. Are we living in the end times? I do think so. All the pieces I think are there but I don't think they are quite in place. However only God knows where the pieces belong.

Definitely believe we are there, but I agree that making predictions is a waste of time. I try to live each day as if it were my last but plan as if I'll live to be 100! I think the thing of balance in the Christan life is really important.

Listen for the Trumpet!

Here's another sign of the last days of Earth approaching. Boy things are getting more ripe for the anti-christ daily. I came across this and find it frightening but I rejoice because Christs time is drawing nearer. Tell me if this doesn't look familiar. I thought it could go here but maby it belongs in the Politics board.

1963 Communist Goals

The communist goals were entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69).

1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war

2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war

3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"

4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites

6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination

7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.

8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN

9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress

10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN

11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)

12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party

13) Do away with loyalty oaths

14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office

15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US

16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

18) Gain control of all student newspapers

19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.

23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".

24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".

27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"

28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".

31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI

36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business

38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.

43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

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More Information: The communist goals were entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69).

I was wondering if anyone saw Glenn Beck last night on CNNHL? He had Tim LeHaye and Jerry Jenkins. The Authors of the "Left Behind" series. It was interesting to see.