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Aaediwen 
Posted: 03-Mar-2004, 08:56 PM
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ok, it's bugged me for a while, and I may finally have a possible answer. Any input would be appreciated.

When I began studying religons, I rather quickly noticed several common threads. Common symbols and concepts between varying schools of thought. Many of these carried roughly common meaning, such as the circle symbolising life and/or the soul. One I have yet to figure out, however, is the number 3.

This number keeps cropping up, and I keep noticing it, in several religons. I was just thinking, perhaps it's because God/Goddess is at the same time tripple and one. Three parts of the same being. Just a thought. opinions?


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  Posted: 03-Mar-2004, 09:08 PM
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I don't know about other beliefs, but in Christianity, the number 3 is representative of the Holy Trinity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.


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Posted: 04-Mar-2004, 07:49 PM
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Indeed =) and it isn't the only place where such a triplicate representation of the devine. Which is what intreagues me so.
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Posted: 04-Mar-2004, 08:32 PM
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The trinity has it's foundations in the Pagan rule of three... it again is a christian borrowed symbol!

3 has been a number that has held mystic value way before the modern era!


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It is hard to explain, but there is a sort of balance in the number 3.


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Posted: 15-Mar-2004, 03:18 PM
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Well there are several reasons as to why 3 is a reoccuring theme.
One, it represents the 3 moon phases- waning, full, and waxing.
The moon also being a representation of many goddesses would acquire that attribute. In the sence of 'life stages' being maiden, mother and crowne.

Example- The three aspects of Cerridwen.


another example- The Morrigan of Irish Pagan belief-

She is a goddess of war, death, prophecy and passionate love.
Together with Badb and Macha
she build a triad of three warlike goddesses. 

The Triple Goddess, or triple aspects of the Goddess were well known to the Celts. To the Irish Celts these aspects were represented by Anu or Danu as the Maiden, Badb as the Mother, and Macha as the Crone. Sometimes the Morrigu, who was in herself called triple, took the part of the Crone. To the Celts of Wales, the Maiden was Blodeuwedd, the Mother Arianrhod, and the Crone Cerridwen. Even in Arthurian times, we find the triplicity: Elaine as Maiden, Margawse as Mother, Morgan as Crone.



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Posted: 15-Mar-2004, 03:20 PM
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Brigit of the Celts

   Brigit was one of the great Triple Goddesses of the Celtic people.
She appeared as Brigit to the Irish, Brigantia in Northern England,
Bride in Scotland, and Brigandu in Brittany. Many legends are told
about Brigit. Some say that there are three Brigits : one sister in
charge of poetry and inspiration who invented the Ogham alphabet,
one in charge of healing and midwifery, and the third in charge of the
hearth fire, smithies and other crafts. This catually indicates the
seperate aspects of her Threefold nature and is a neat division of
labor for a hard-working goddess.

   Brigit was probably originally a Sun Goddess, and a charming story
of her birth is that she was born at sunrise and a tower of flame
burst from the forehead of the new born Goddess that reached from
Earth to Heaven. It was likely She who inspired the line in the famous
Song of Amergin: "I am a fire in the head." Her penchant for smithcraft
led to her association by the Romans with Minerva/Athena. As a warrior
Goddess, She favored the use of the spear or the arrow. Indeed, various
interpetations of her name exist including, "Bright Arrow," "The Bright
One," "the Powerful One" and "The High One," depending upon the region
and the dialect.

   As a Goddess of herbalism, midwifery and healing She was in charge
of Water as well as Fire. I don't beleive that anyone has ever
counted all teh vast number of sacred wells and springs named after
or dedicated to this Goddess. A story is told of how two lepers came
to one of her sacred springs for healing and She instructed one Leper
to wash the other. The skin of the freshly bathed man was cleansed
of the disease and Brigit told the man who was healed to wash the man
who had bathed him so that both men would be whole. The man who was
healed was now too disgusted to touch the other Leper and would have
left him, but Brigit herself washed the leper and struck down the
other arrogant fellow with leperousy once more before he could leave.
Offerings to the watery Brigit were cast into the well in the form
of coins or, even more ancient, brass or gold rings. Other sacrifices
were offered where three streams came together. Her cauldron of
Inspiration connected her watery healing aspect with her fiery poetic
aspect.

   Brigit is clearly the best example of the survival of a Goddess
into Christian times. She was cannonized by the Catholic church as
St. Brigit and various origins are given to this saint. The most
popular folktale is that She was midwife to the Virgin Mary, and thus
was always inviked by women in labor. The more official story was
that She was a Druid's daughter who predicted the coming of
Christianity and then was baptised by St. Patrick. She became a nun
and later an abbess who founded the Abbey at Kildare. The Christian
Brigit was said to have had the power to appoint the bishops of her
area, a strange role for an abbess, made stranger by her requirement
that her bishops also be practicing goldsmiths.

   Actually, the Goddess Brigit had always kept a shrine at Kildare,
Ireland, with a perpetual flame tended by nineteen virgin priestesses
called Daughters of the Flame. No male was ever allowed to come near
it; nor did those women ever consort with men. Even their food and
other supplies were brought to them by women of the nearby village.
When Catholicism took over in Ireland, the shrine became a convent
and the priestesses became nuns but the same traditions were held
and the eternal flame was kept burning. Their tradition was that
each day a different priestess/nun was in charge of the sacred fire
and on the 20th day of each cycle, teh fire was miraculously tended
by Brigit Herself. There into the 18th century, the ancient song
was sung to her : "Brigit, excellant woman, sudden flame, may the
bright fiery sun take us to the lasting kingdom."

   For over a thousand years, the sacred flame was tended by nuns,
and no one knows how long before that it had been tended by the
priestesses. In 1220 CE, a Bishop became angered by the no-males
policy of the Abbey of St. Brigit of Kildare. He insisted that nuns
were subordinate to priests and therefore must open their abbey
and submit themselves to inspection by a priest. When they refused
and asked for another Abbess or other female official to perform
any inspections, the Bishop was incensed. He admonished them to
obediance and then decreed that teh keeping of the eternal flame
was a Pagan custom and ordered the sacred flame to be extinguished.
Even then, She remained the most poular Irish saint along with
Patrick. In the 1960's, under Vatican II modernization, it was
declared that there was insufficient proof of Brigit's sanctity
or even of her historical existance, and so teh Church's gradual
pogrom against Brigit was successful at last and She was thus
decanonized. It is very difficult to obtain images or even holy
cards of ST. Brigit outside of Ireland anymore.
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Posted: 15-Mar-2004, 03:25 PM
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3 is the number of Diety
6 is the number of man
triple six is the number of man personified/diefied by man

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Posted: 15-Mar-2004, 07:07 PM
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=) yet more samples. biggrin.gif

May this thread continue to be a chalice to hold triads, triplicate examples, and ponderings to the cosmic, metaphysical, divine signifigance. Of the value 3.

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Think I may have found the answer I have so long sought. Thanks for the feedback smile.gif
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QUOTE (barddas @ 15-Mar-2004, 08:18 PM)
One, it represents the 3 moon phases- waning, full, and waxing.

What about dark? If you include full, surely you must have dark?


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