Many times man lives and dies Between his two eternities, That of race and that of soul And ancient Ireland knew it all.
" To a Scot, the past clings like sand to wet feet, and is carried about as a burden. The many ghosts are always a part of them, inescapable." Geddes MacGregor
Hope, fear, false-joy, and trouble, Are these four winds which daily toss this bubble, His breath’s a vapour, and his life’s a span; Tis glorious misery to be born a man. ~ from a Cornish gravestone
"Now I perceive the devil understands Welsh.” "God defend me from that Welsh fairy, Lest he transform me to a piece of cheese!” William Shakespeare quotes
As I don't know how much you have dug into your Heritage I will suggest if I may you look into the following sites on Google if you have not already done so;
Clan Arthur; Clan MacArthur' and Electric Scotland.
Oh My!!! Clan Campbell and Clan MacNaughton are so very intertwined throughout their histories. Land and peoples. To know the Campbell clan one must read of the MacNaughton clan. Heck at one time their clan castles were 3 miles apart!!! A MacNaugton gave witness that caused the Campbell clan chief to lose his head. A Campbell tricked a MacNaughton into marrying the wrong daughter and be charged with incest. One killed and tricked the other with regularity.
History out performs any modern day soap opera ! Fred, of the Clan MacNaughton
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Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. Plato(427-347 BC) Philosopher and Educator
Three things in human life are important: The first is to be kind. The second is to be kind. And the third is to be kind. Henry James (1843-1916) Writer
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people. -Abraham Joshua Heschel (1907-1972) Theology Professor
This is fascinating reading! My step grandmother was a McNaughton, so I have a link there, though not by blood. Our surname, Thompson, is associated with Campbell, though I haven't been able to trace it back to the old country with any certainty yet. The scary part is that it may actually be English! Help me!
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I am a stag: of seven tines, I am a flood: across a plain, I am a wind: on a deep lake, I am a tear: the Sun lets fall, I am a hawk: above the cliff, I am a thorn: beneath the nail, I am a wonder: among flowers, I am a wizard: who but I Sets the cool head aflame with smoke?
I am a spear: that roars for blood, I am a salmon: in a pool, I am a lure: from paradise, I am a hill: where poets walk, I am a boar: ruthless and red, I am a breaker: threatening doom, I am a tide: that drags to death, I am an infant: who but I Peeps from the unhewn dolmen, arch?
I am the womb: of every holt, I am the blaze: on every hill, I am the queen: of every hive, I am the shield: for every head, I am the tomb: of every hope.
This is fascinating reading! My step grandmother was a McNaughton, so I have a link there, though not by blood. Our surname, Thompson, is associated with Campbell, though I haven't been able to trace it back to the old country with any certainty yet. The scary part is that it may actually be English! Help me!
michealthompson;
I'm a Campbell by birth and a MacArthur by adoption. To get a good overall history of the Clan Campbell I suggest you read "A History of Clan Campbell,Vol1 & 2 by Alistair Campbell of Airds. Also go to Electric Scotland on the web. For a closer genealogical trace try the Mormons. They have the most extensive records in the world.
The Campbells and MacNaughton clans are truly intertwined in history and there is plenty of good reading on the internet for both clans. Their shared ancestral borders, families and septs switched alleginaces from clan to clan, as fortunes and luck changed over time. MacDougall is also closely intertwined with MacNaughton.
0Ash0Tree0, There is a story in one of my ancestors diary that states when the Nutts, later McNutts, were still in Ireland, they went by Mcknight and changed it to Nutt in the states in or around 1730.
michaelthompson, poor fella, a Campbell and English, oh my!!
The Campbells and MacNaughton clans are truly intertwined in history and there is plenty of good reading on the internet for both clans. Their shared ancestral borders, families and septs switched alleginaces from clan to clan, as fortunes and luck changed over time. MacDougall is also closely intertwined with MacNaughton.
0Ash0Tree0, There is a story in one of my ancestors diary that states when the Nutts, later McNutts, were still in Ireland, they went by Mcknight and changed it to Nutt in the states in or around 1730.
michaelthompson, poor fella, a Campbell and English, oh my!!
UlsterScotNutt
USN;
Lets keep the Campbell/Sassenach connection Sub Rosa. After all I'm reallya Campbell, but a "guid un" as I was born to the Catholic side.
Camac, From what I can tell on my MacNaughton side, we were Protestants from amongst the Catholics in the Doneghal area of northern Ireland. The family was most likely a very early Scots family in the Ulster Plantation movement, early 1600, most likely at the time of The Flight of The Earls, 1607. The family remained Protestant thru my paternal grandfather Fred Cornelius McNutt who married a Roman Catholic Chilean, my grandmother Luzmiera Pinto. My father and mother were both raised RC, my father by Jesuits. Neither of them were practising RC's, though they did send me and my siblings to Catholic school, me thru 5th grade and my sister and brother thru 8th grade. I guess I was incorigible!! Some were else I talk about the fight I got into with a Campbell in 5th grade. USN
You mentioned your Dad being raised by Jesuits. On one of the overseas jobs my Dad had we went along with him and I was sent to a Jesuit Boarding School for a year. "Twas Hell upon Earth" those guys were warped.
You mentioned your Dad being raised by Jesuits. On one of the overseas jobs my Dad had we went along with him and I was sent to a Jesuit Boarding School for a year. "Twas Hell upon Earth" those guys were warped.
Camac.
Camac, well "warped" is alittle strong, perhaps "dedicated to a cause with single minded determination to purpose and you better toe the line or else" kinda guys is a better description . USN
You mentioned your Dad being raised by Jesuits. On one of the overseas jobs my Dad had we went along with him and I was sent to a Jesuit Boarding School for a year. "Twas Hell upon Earth" those guys were warped.
Camac.
Camac, well "warped" is alittle strong, perhaps "dedicated to a cause with single minded determination to purpose and you better toe the line or else" kinda guys is a better description . USN
USN;
Last comment then back to topic. They are dedicated. Methinks they are Templars with an attitude.
It just dawned on me, a MacNaughton budding into the Campbells topic!!!!!!!!
Now if I could just find were you keep the cows and chickens!!!
USN
USN;
I was just looking at my Clan map. You poor buggers caught between the Campbell and the MacArthur. It's a wonder you survived. BTW. The MacArthur have the sheep and chickens.
It just dawned on me, a MacNaughton budding into the Campbells topic!!!!!!!!
Now if I could just find were you keep the cows and chickens!!!
USN
USN;
I was just looking at my Clan map. You poor buggers caught between the Campbell and the MacArthur. It's a wonder you survived. BTW. The MacArthur have the sheep and chickens.
I was looking at some old marraige records from Scotland that are now available online and was amazed to see how many MacNaughton, Campbell intermarraiages there were. I guess if you are neighbors, you either marry your cousin or you look at another clan across the ways a bit. Clan MacNaughton did take a beating in Scotland and finally left to Ireland after losing all of their ancestral lands. Not to say you can't find any still there though.
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